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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathandira View Post
    I feel that Sanders had respect for Biden, which is why he didn’t lay into him. Trump has no respect for Biden, and I suspect he will make a mockery of him.
    If he can't fight for what he believes when everything is on the line, than he doesn't deserve even a tenth of the respect people give him for being a fierce and strong advocate for progressive and socialist policies in the country.

    Incapable of pushing over a supposedly weak Biden on what was supposed to be his ace in the hole, or indecisive and unable to push what he believes. Not exactly good either way you spin it. But if I were to bet, it would be on the former.
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    No matter which wins, the nation loses.

    We got Biden, the dementia ridden creepy old man who loves to sniff hair and can't keep his foot out of his mouth and on the other side we got Trump, the dementia ridden creepy old man who loves to perv on his daughter, has multiple sexual assault charges on him, has been caught bragging about it on audio, and was a passenger on Epstein's Lolita Express and can't keep both feet out of his mouth.

    Sad state of affairs we live in. The best option ends up dropping because the voters aren't willing to come out and vote. Either which was it goes, we leave a big mess for our children because we have proven that, as a group, we mentally aren't capable of actually doing it ourselves.

    Biden is the better option by far but this turned into another "Trump vs Not-Trump" election where nothing really to vote FOR just something to vote against. Hopefully the ones who voted in the primary come out in the general too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    You could always just not post if you aren't interested in the election.

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    So basically as of right now Trump isn't leading in a single swing state and yet Biden securing the nomination is going to guarantee 4 more years of trump according to quite a few poster here.
    IIRC those sites did a much better job of accurately predicting the Blue Wave in 2018.

    My only concern is the entirely unpredictable nature of voter suppression, such as we saw in 2016/2018 and most recently Tuesday in WI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    Who cares though, the thread is just about polling data and predetermining which person will win which is literally worthless when the only point of politics is to figure out which policies will actually be effective once implemented.
    I am not sure what's to talk about in terms of policies we know what Trump policies are hate immigrants, brown people, tax cuts for rich and corporations, destroy the environment, destroy civil rights, reverse Roe V. Wade short version bring America back to the 1820s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    IIRC those sites did a much better job of accurately predicting the Blue Wave in 2018.

    My only concern is the entirely unpredictable nature of voter suppression, such as we saw in 2016/2018 and most recently Tuesday in WI.
    The virus and how it goes will probably determine the election, if we are in the midst of a second wave by November which is likely I see Trump using the WI model to easily win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghouipsweweewwe View Post
    If you want to make a bet on Biden at evens I will fade you up to a million dollars.

    (I'm serious, I make good money betting against stupid people who don't understand reality).
    I highly doubt someone will be betting a million dollars against a random account on the internet with but one post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathandira View Post
    My prediction, is that Trump is basically going to bully the crap out of Biden in the debates. Joe is not a good public speaker, and Trump will use that against him. Granted, Trump also is not a good public speaker, but his ability to mock and bully will trip up Biden even more.
    Two things on that:

    1. Trump is a bully, but he's not a good public speaker. Moreover, his camp knows how badly he debates, and they also know how little Trump's base will care about the reality of the outcome of that debate - in other words, Trump will "win" no matter what happens in the debate. Hillary trounced Trump three times and his base didn't care.
    2. Biden's camp knows all this, and will seek to limit the number of debates, secretly. I would bet we won't see more than two Presidential candidate debates. I would bet that we see VP debates, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    The virus and how it goes will probably determine the election, if we are in the midst of a second wave by November which is likely I see Trump using the WI model to easily win.
    Agreed. It's about the only play they have to really win in Nov, with SCOTUS stacked in their favor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    I'm saying talk about those policies you listed in this thread that way you could potentially change someone's mind. If you just insult a candidate or look at polling data it's not actually possible for it do anything or have any beneficial effect at all.
    Not this election all the votes are pretty much locked in because Trump is so polarizing both in terms of policy and personality. You either support the 1820s clown show or you don't, if you look at the numbers this election is entirely about Trump. A glass of water could be running against him and the results will be the same pretty much no one is excited about Biden.

    Voter suppression will determine who wins, Trump is guaranteed to lose the popular vote.

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    Well, if mail-in-votes can't happen because the USPS is too broke...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    I'm saying talk about those policies you listed in this thread that way you could potentially change someone's mind. If you just insult a candidate or look at polling data it's not actually possible for it do anything or have any beneficial effect at all.
    Unfortunately those policies this time around will be almost irrelevant. This entire election is a referendum on Trump. Everything else is a distant second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommunismWillWin View Post
    In one corner we got a senile old racist/rapist and in the other corner, we got another senile old racist/rapist?


    Which one will win? We don't know! Oh the excitement!
    I heard one of them was a womanizer who endorsed policies which hurt minorities and workers. . Oh Lord, don't tell me it is both of them.

    Before people blow up the DMs, I have my right to talk about a candidate even if they are my choice

    I would say America deserves better but America keeps putting these people on ballots
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    Can't wait for Biden to lose and to come back to this thread and see everyone who spent the past 10 months demonizing Bernie supporters to be in here complaining that they wouldn't vote for Biden.

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    If Biden lose I’m pretty sure sometime in the future I’m going to get thrown into a “camp” for looking like a Mexican and not looking like an American.

    In other words I fully expect minorities rights to slowly begin dissolve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    Where is this proof of rape? A crazy woman who claims putin loves her and when she worked with joe Biden she got to do nothing and was just in the office feeling like a lamp?
    So because it's a republican president getting accused of that, it's true but Biden being accused means it's a crazy woman and throw in some of the good ol' russian blame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmjclark View Post
    Can't wait for Biden to lose and to come back to this thread and see everyone who spent the past 10 months demonizing Bernie supporters to be in here complaining that they wouldn't vote for Biden.
    bernie supporters don't vote anyways.

    what they will be blamed for is spreading right wing attacks against dems, then they will complain that they are "demonized."
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    283-287 is my bet
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    283-287 is my bet
    Check your math.

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    Trump needs Florida, North Carolina, Wisconsin, and Arizona to win which is pretty easy. Trump might flip Minnesota considering Ilhan Omar is such a liability. Pennsylvania and Michigan might go back to the dems but they are definitely on the way to becoming red states. Maine and New Hampshire are probably heading red as well in future years.

    When that shift is complete, the GOP is banking 312 electoral votes. That means Texas could turn blue and the GOP still wins the white house. But the shift is not complete yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmjclark View Post
    Can't wait for Biden to lose and to come back to this thread and see everyone who spent the past 10 months demonizing Bernie supporters to be in here complaining that they wouldn't vote for Biden.
    Got some rough news for ya. If Bernie supports don't vote for Biden then guess what? It is at least partially their fault if Trump wins. Reality doesn't care if people's feelings get hurt. You own the consequences of your vote or lack thereof. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    Trump needs Florida, North Carolina, Wisconsin, and Arizona to win which is pretty easy. Trump might flip Minnesota considering Ilhan Omar is such a liability. Pennsylvania and Michigan might go back to the dems but they are definitely on the way to becoming red states. Maine and New Hampshire are probably heading red as well in future years.

    When that shift is complete, the GOP is banking 312 electoral votes. That means Texas could turn blue and the GOP still wins the white house. But the shift is not complete yet.
    Trump is losing in every swing state right now.

    But keep on smoking whatever you are smoking. This is the second post where you don't call for civil war. The healing is continuing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade Wolf View Post
    So because it's a republican president getting accused of that, it's true but Biden being accused means it's a crazy woman and throw in some of the good ol' russian blame.
    Actually it’s literally the fucking long as hell post. Did you ignore it?

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