How are 20+ minute dungeon queues for DPS still a thing in 2020?

[Agent Smith]

Blizzard has had ample time to come up with a fix for this problem. The "there are more DPS queuing than there are tanks and healers" is tired and outdated.

Remember (forgot which xpac) Blizzard said leveling as a straight healer would be possible and running solo scenarios for rewards as a healer would be a thing?

Why not implement a scenario for singular people without guilds, without the 20+ minutes of waiting AND then running said dungeon?

AI has worked fine in brawlers guild, that gives rewards. It was viable in Proving Grounds, we started the fights as whatever spec we wanted...

This is possible.

[Lanrefni]

[Lucavian]

Blizzard has had ample time to come up with a fix for this problem. The "there are more DPS queuing than there are tanks and healers" is tired and outdated.

Remember (forgot which xpac) Blizzard said leveling as a straight healer would be possible and running solo scenarios for rewards as a healer would be a thing?

Why not implement a scenario for singular people without guilds, without the 20+ minutes of waiting AND then running said dungeon?

AI has worked fine in brawlers guild, that gives rewards. It was viable in Proving Grounds, we started the fights as whatever spec we wanted...

This is possible.

Why don't you just play something that can heal or tank and queue up as a tank or healer?

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Now, whatever snarky reply you were immediately thinking about posting is going to be the same thing thousands of other players are also thinking and thus they too don't queue as a healer or a tank. That's your answer. Blizzard can't directly control popularity of roles.

[Infernoxas]

Blizzard has had ample time to come up with a fix for this problem. The "there are more DPS queuing than there are tanks and healers" is tired and outdated.

Remember (forgot which xpac) Blizzard said leveling as a straight healer would be possible and running solo scenarios for rewards as a healer would be a thing?

Why not implement a scenario for singular people without guilds, without the 20+ minutes of waiting AND then running said dungeon?

AI has worked fine in brawlers guild, that gives rewards. It was viable in Proving Grounds, we started the fights as whatever spec we wanted...

This is possible.

Is it really though? There are massive amounts of dps compared to tanks and healers. My logical thinking says there are a lack of tanks and/or healers in queue, thus longer queues.

Most people significantly outgear queuable content anyway.

[Sencha]

You have to be masochist to queue as tank or heal with random people. Too many clueless dps queuing.

[Darkeon]

Play a tank or a healer.

[Neuroticaine]

It'd likely take a long time to develop and test AI for full dungeons for every single dungeon that exists, which is time better spent elsewhere.

[Very Tired]

Who the heck is still queuing for dungeons this late into the expansion anyway?

[crusadernero]

Blizzard has had ample time to come up with a fix for this problem. The "there are more DPS queuing than there are tanks and healers" is tired and outdated.

Remember (forgot which xpac) Blizzard said leveling as a straight healer would be possible and running solo scenarios for rewards as a healer would be a thing?

Why not implement a scenario for singular people without guilds, without the 20+ minutes of waiting AND then running said dungeon?

AI has worked fine in brawlers guild, that gives rewards. It was viable in Proving Grounds, we started the fights as whatever spec we wanted...

This is possible.

Blame the overall commmunity in the game. Being a tank is often enough a pain in the ass. Either you pull to fast or to slow. Either you pull wrong or correct. Either you have aggro or NEVER aggro. If grp wipes, its your fault. Its not such a big deal in dungeons(not counting m+), but it quickly gets difficult for many in raids.

I have played this game since vanilla and I was tank in vanilla, bc, wotlk & most of cata. Switched to healer/dps since then and never really bothered to tank anything at all ever again. To me, after playing all these years, im sick and tierd of seeing the shite people write to tanks and cant be bothered with it.

Now the usual response would be "git gud", but thats often a cheap answer. Alot of people dont want to or dont have the patience letting a tank learn bossfights etc. They want a fleshed out 100% legit tank with 60 years of experience. They dont have time for someone that wants to learn, and thats a issue. Cause tanks gotta learn someplace.

Player mentality today demands perfection and with humans behind the keyboard, mistakes are bound to happen. mistakes alot of people in wow cant handle.

So why should a player that casually enjoys playing wow bother tanking? Its like a different game going into a dungeon as dps.

[talwynn]

The "there are more DPS queuing than there are tanks and healers" is tired and outdated.

Just because it's tired and outdated doesn't make it any less true.

[LedZeppelin]

everyone loves tanks and healers so they have their own friends and dont need you lowly random dps

[Krawu]

Blizzard has had ample time to come up with a fix for this problem. The "there are more DPS queuing than there are tanks and healers" is tired and outdated.

Remember (forgot which xpac) Blizzard said leveling as a straight healer would be possible and running solo scenarios for rewards as a healer would be a thing?

Why not implement a scenario for singular people without guilds, without the 20+ minutes of waiting AND then running said dungeon?

AI has worked fine in brawlers guild, that gives rewards. It was viable in Proving Grounds, we started the fights as whatever spec we wanted...

This is possible.

This isn't something that can be fixed with technology, the players for those roles simply aren't there. If it bothers you be part of the solution and play Tank/Heal.

[Varvara Spiros Gelashvili]

Why don't you just play something that can heal or tank and queue up as a tank or healer?

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Now, whatever snarky reply you were immediately thinking about posting is going to be the same thing thousands of other players are also thinking and thus they too don't queue as a healer or a tank. That's your answer. Blizzard can't directly control popularity of roles.

Why don't they just allow geared dps to queue up as tanks... Or script tank bots for looking for raid?

[Rydanis]

As someone who enjoys tanking and healing, if I had the option to run with AI DPS I would. Definitely wouldn't solve your particular problem, you'd end up relying only on AI as DPS and that'd be pretty unhealthy for the game community as a whole.

Personally I blame M+ for some of this as it makes tanks responsible for knowing the meta routes for a dungeon and not every tank wants to skip all possible adds. Sometimes we just want to run a dungeon normally, is that so bad? In a normal mythic that pack is going to get deleted in a few seconds of DPS, I really don't want to creep around trying to skip it, then watch as someone pulls it anyway when we're at the next pack already.

And then of course there are the healers that are responsible for every person who has no idea what affixes do and just want to smash buttons as much as possible regardless of how hard it is to keep them up. Not to mention they'll just stand in eye circles and eat grand delusions with their face. Even in normal mythic, just DO MECHANICS. It's not hard. It's really not.

Nobody likes carrying DPS and we don't care how much leet burst damage you can do.

[Ealyssa]

Who the heck is still queuing for dungeons this late into the expansion anyway?

This, like why the fuck would anyone care for heroic dungeon ???

[Nnyco]

Blame lazy dps who cannot be bothered to learn anythin about the content themself, puttin everythin that has to be known on the tanks shoulders. Now no one can be arsed to tank wop wop.

[Daymanmb]

It can just add bots

What an awful idea

[Mirishka]

Literally the perfect response.

[Usernameforforums]

Well, if there are only enough tanks to fill 200 groups and enough healers to fit 300 groups but there are 10000 dps, of course you’re going to have a long queue time as a dps as there are only enough people to fill 200 groups. Its simple fuckin math. Saying that the argument is outdated is completely false. There is nothing you can do to change the queuing system without removing the core aspect of the game that is the holy trinity.

[Varvara Spiros Gelashvili]

What an awful idea

Why is it awful? Just limit it to looking for raid and dungeon finder. The whole it ruins the difficulty of the game is bs. Live wow shit on classic outside of leveling difficulty wise. Classic raids are on par with looking for raid and the dungeons are about as hard as normal.

Anyone saying that is hard to code just treat the tank like a hunter pet and move on.