Why is Lor’themar still a regent

[Kyphael]

He needed to marry Liadrin and become king and queen of Silvermoon yesterday.

Not happening, Thalyssra's already pining for him, and she makes no qualms about her thirsty she is.

[Feanoro]

How long did regency last there? From Isildur's death to Aragorn's return? Why would a regency last that long? Was there a promise the monarchy would one day return? In Silvermoon's case it's not even an option since Kael declared his father the last king, then kicked the bucket himself without leaving an heir.

No, the movies oversimplified. With the loss of Elendil, the kingdom was split in two for his sons. Isildur was king of Arnor, the Northern Kingdom, while his younger brother Anárion was king of Gondor. Arnor dwindled from infighting and attacks from the Witch-king until Isildur's people became the Dunedain of the North.

Meanwhile in Gondor, the ruling Stewards began after King Eärnur was lost in Minas Morgul, ending the line of Anárion, centuries after Isildur's time. By that time, the Northern Kingdom was destroyed, so Gondor was all that was left of the Númenórean lands. As the Heir of Elendil, Aragorn thus was king of the Southern Kingdom, Gondor. In the Appendices, he retook the Northern lands during his reign. (Even this is a summary.)

Now back to FAR inferior writing. XD Bob is doing his usual thing, don't draw attention, hope no one notices him.

[Nathreim]

He doesn't want to be king or Regent for that matter. A lot of the nobles have been trying to push him for years to be king and most of his advisors have as well.

It has nothing to do with what Kael'thas said though its just Lor'themar being stubborn.

[Soon-TM]

He needed to marry Liadrin and become king and queen of Silvermoon yesterday.

Thalyssra looks to have been faster than silly Liadrin lol

[TickTickTick]

Not in WoW. Aside from Vulperas and their rough attempt at democracy, and pandas and their primitive communism (sort of), all other races in WoW are ruled by absolute governments: monarchies, oligarchies, dictatorships, even freaking theocracies.

So you kind of agree with me then that there are more forms of government.

People ask why Lor'themar isn't a king. He's not, because Silvermoon is no longer a kingdom.

And while I agree that he should stop being a Regent Lord (which he was initially named as by Kael'thas, his prince), I don't agree that he should become a king.

[Zuben]

No, the movies oversimplified. With the loss of Elendil, the kingdom was split in two for his sons. Isildur was king of Arnor, the Northern Kingdom, while his younger brother Anárion was king of Gondor. Arnor dwindled from infighting and attacks from the Witch-king until Isildur's people became the Dunedain of the North.

Meanwhile in Gondor, the ruling Stewards began after King Eärnur was lost in Minas Morgul, ending the line of Anárion, centuries after Isildur's time. By that time, the Northern Kingdom was destroyed, so Gondor was all that was left of the Númenórean lands. As the Heir of Elendil, Aragorn thus was king of the Southern Kingdom, Gondor. In the Appendices, he retook the Northern lands during his reign. (Even this is a summary.)

Now back to FAR inferior writing. XD Bob is doing his usual thing, don't draw attention, hope no one notices him.

Were the northern lands unclaimed by any nation until Aragorn took them back?

[Nobleshield]

Lor'themar doesn't want ​to be named king. Lore-wise they've tried a few times and he's refused.

[Spiffums]

Probably waiting for the Alliance HIGH ELVES to come and take over....

[El Caballero de Olmedo]

Lor'themar doesn't want ​to be named king. Lore-wise they've tried a few times and he's refused.

But then why is he still the Regent Lord? He dosen't want to be king, it's often stated that he hates the politics and yet he still is the Regent? For someone with such a reluctant attitude, he still has not stepped down from power.

[Oakshana]

That is, until Blizzard decides that the Horde needs MOAR Alliance-leaning (or directly affiliated) leaders.

When they actually make more Horde significant characters Neutral to Alliance, then you can complain.

[Oneirophobia]

pandas and their primitive communism

I thought Pandaren were some sort of military junta. The Shado-Pan, either by accident or intentionally, are portrayed as a pillar of Pandaren society. They're the police, they're the military, they call all the shots, they're deeply respected and admired by their people and feared/loathed by those they share the continent with, and the only beings the Shado-Pan seem to answer to are the 4 celestials/wild gods of the continent, most of which have their own monasteries in which they train large groups of Pandaren in combat.

So they're like a weird benevolent theocratic military. They even have a war with the mantid every 100 years, which I assume keeps their economy going. I suppose now that they aren't locked into isolation via magic mist, they can become more focused on exporting the enormous food quantities they produce in Valley of the 4 Winds, though.

[Taeryc]

But then why is he still the Regent Lord? He dosen't want to be king, it's often stated that he hates the politics and yet he still is the Regent? For someone with such a reluctant attitude, he still has not stepped down from power.

That is the question - the simple answer is there's no-one else who's even offered to take the "job" or in this case position of equivalent authority, no matter what its named.

[Combatbutler]

But then why is he still the Regent Lord? He dosen't want to be king, it's often stated that he hates the politics and yet he still is the Regent? For someone with such a reluctant attitude, he still has not stepped down from power.

A sense of duty most likely and no suitable candidate to replace him.

[Oneirophobia]

But then why is he still the Regent Lord? He dosen't want to be king, it's often stated that he hates the politics and yet he still is the Regent? For someone with such a reluctant attitude, he still has not stepped down from power.

Nobody wants him to step down and he's viewed by pretty much everybody to be the most fit for the job. He does it reluctantly but he also understands that his people demand his service, and as a farstrider with a code, he feels obligated to lead.

Basically, he puts the needs of his home and people before his own wants and desires, which is exactly what makes him a good leader.

Look at Sylvanas, she is the exact opposite and she has done nothing but keep the Forsaken in their regressive slave-state to be used as meat shields, even "disappearing" those who stray too far outside of what she personally considers acceptable (The Desolate Council, Koltira, etc.).

[Combatbutler]

That is the question - the simple answer is there's no-one else who's even offered to take the "job" or in this case position of equivalent authority, no matter what its named.

Lyandra Sunstrider tried, which is why she was looking for Felo'melorn

[Aucald]

I thought Pandaren were some sort of military junta. The Shado-Pan, either by accident or intentionally, are portrayed as a pillar of Pandaren society. They're the police, they're the military, they call all the shots, they're deeply respected and admired by their people and feared/loathed by those they share the continent with, and the only beings the Shado-Pan seem to answer to are the 4 celestials/wild gods of the continent, most of which have their own monasteries in which they train large groups of Pandaren in combat.

So they're like a weird benevolent theocratic military. They even have a war with the mantid every 100 years, which I assume keeps their economy going. I suppose now that they aren't locked into isolation via magic mist, they can become more focused on exporting the enormous food quantities they produce in Valley of the 4 Winds, though.

The Shado-Pan don't really oversee the day-to-day life the Pandaren in any governmental or legislative sense, though; there simply there to see to any resurgence of the Sha and deal with the occasional Mantid swarm along wall separating the mainland from Townlong Steppes and the Dread Wastes. Actual Pandaren towns seem to be functioning examples of anarcho-syndicalism, each settlement its own discrete government overseen by the workers, usually with the headman or foreman of the group acting as the leader (the mayor of said town). So basically each autonomous settlement forms part of a working economy who share a constabulary of sorts (the Shado-Pan) - Halfhill controlling crops, Zouchin is a fishing village, One Keg a brewery, Greenstone Village oversees mining, and of course the various monasteries and temples that dot the land provide for scholastic and academic endeavors.

[Saltysquidoon]

But then why is he still the Regent Lord? He dosen't want to be king, it's often stated that he hates the politics and yet he still is the Regent? For someone with such a reluctant attitude, he still has not stepped down from power.

Have you met the other blood elves? They don't even trust the other blood elves to rule.

I thought Pandaren were some sort of military junta. The Shado-Pan, either by accident or intentionally, are portrayed as a pillar of Pandaren society. They're the police, they're the military, they call all the shots, they're deeply respected and admired by their people and feared/loathed by those they share the continent with, and the only beings the Shado-Pan seem to answer to are the 4 celestials/wild gods of the continent, most of which have their own monasteries in which they train large groups of Pandaren in combat.

I think the other poster's 'communism' comment was more directed at the disparate villages seeming to have no centralised government but somehow just work together when the story needs them too.

[Soon-TM]

When they actually make more Horde significant characters Neutral to Alliance, then you can complain.

They cannot, for the simplest of reasons: they've already killed them all, to the point that the only surviving OG Horde characters are Thrall, Baine... and Bob, if we are feeling generous. The two former are already Anduin clones, and the latter is completely irrelevant - although I have the feeling he will be the next Stupid Evil™ baddie in 10.0 or so

[Varodoc]

The Void Lords have been seen claiming that Alleria is the rightful queen of Quel'Thalas. That shit will be on every tv in Quel'Thalas, mark my words.

[StillMcfuu]

How long did regency last there? From Isildur's death to Aragorn's return? Why would a regency last that long? Was there a promise the monarchy would one day return? In Silvermoon's case it's not even an option since Kael declared his father the last king, then kicked the bucket himself without leaving an heir.

The same family were the Regents, and since they were in power it would be against their interests to break the Regency/Monarchy.