Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Clone]

I don’t want trump to get it.

Why? Because then, after having beaten it, people will think “oh he’s so strong, leading the nation while sick!” and “trump got sick too! He’s suffering just as much as the rest of us!” And “wow he’s so strong and brave, he was able to beat the virus the media was saying was deadly!”

Basically, him contracting the illness would only humanize him in the eyes of voters and serve as a temporary excuse for his normal complete lack of leadership.

What if ivanka gets it.

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They...they've nicknamed Trump's campaign "Death Star". Do they have ANY idea what that implies? Good fucking grief Trump hires the WORST people...

Do they seriously not know that the Death Star was the tool of the baddies that was ultimately a source of hubris that destroyed them all?
And do they REALLY want something named "Death" attached to their campaign amidst a pandemic that's going to kill at least 100k Americans?

I hope the mouse brings suit.

[Breccia]

I hope the mouse brings suit.

Funny story, Disney is watching FLorida re-open and saying "No thanks, we're good for now".

It's like they think their employees and visitors are more important than money, or something.

[cubby]

Team Deplorable burying a CDC report on how to open state and local areas safely.

The White House buried a comprehensive report by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which would've provided state and local officials guidelines on the safe reopening of public spaces while the United States remains in the clutches of the coronavirus pandemic.

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Funny story, Disney is watching FLorida re-open and saying "No thanks, we're good for now".

It's like they think their employees and visitors are more important than money, or something.

FL "reopening" after essentially not closing is going to be really fucking awful. The U.S. is set to keep the most deaths total, per capita, and the most cases. Because Trump thinks dead americans is important to his reelection efforts.

[Benggaul]

FL "reopening" after essentially not closing is going to be really fucking awful. The U.S. is set to keep the most deaths total, per capita, and the most cases. Because Trump thinks dead americans is important to his reelection efforts.

The cynic in me thinks Trump doesn't give a damn because most of the dead so far have come from states that won't vote for him. New York in particular.

[Xyonai]

Team Deplorable burying a CDC report on how to open state and local areas safely.

I really, really don't understand this move. Is it because the report ruins the narrative? Is it because Trump wants to make up his own plan and take credit for it? Maybe he actually does want a bunch of us to get sick and die but why?

Shit like this is beyond stupid.

[Felya]

The cynic in me thinks Trump doesn't give a damn because most of the dead so far have come from states that won't vote for him. New York in particular.

But, it’s his primary demographic, the elderly... including Florida...

[Clone]

But, it’s his primary demographic, the elderly... including Florida...

Too late to change course now, have to either stick with the lie or admit the lie.

[Rasulis]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/read-t...ant-you-to-see

AP got a leaked copy of the CDC Guidance on re-opening the economy. Leaked, because the Trump administration is apparently burying it. This would normally be a document released to the public, but the information doesn't line up with the stories from Team Trump.

Daily Beast has the guidance in full.

This is in line with my earlier post about OSHA not having guidelines in place for COVID-19 protection measures at work. Damn it! That's their one and only job. To ensure work place safety. Hence the name Occupational Safety and Health Administration. All of our workplace safety regulations flow from them.

[Thekri]

Funny story, Disney is watching FLorida re-open and saying "No thanks, we're good for now".

It's like they think their employees and visitors are more important than money, or something.

Oh I doubt that. Disney isn't a company known for its high moral values. More likely they are worried they are going to have to spend tons of money to get it reopened, only to have either A) Not large enough crowds to actually cover the overhead of running it or B) Have it closed again within a month.

I suspect this was a financial decision, not an ethical one. They will claim the ethical one in press releases of course.

[Rasulis]

Oh I doubt that. Disney isn't a company known for its high moral values. More likely they are worried they are going to have to spend tons of money to get it reopened, only to have either A) Not large enough crowds to actually cover the overhead of running it or B) Have it closed again within a month.

I suspect this was a financial decision, not an ethical one. They will claim the ethical one in press releases of course.

LEGAL LIABILITIES! When they do open their parks, resorts and cruises, they'll probably make all the workers and guests sign waivers. Their park tickets will probably have some kind of waivers on them also.

[Benggaul]

But, it’s his primary demographic, the elderly... including Florida...

In states like New York and California it doesn't matter what his demographic is. He doesn't have a prayer of winning either. And Florida has been covering things up for a while now.

[Thekri]

LEGAL LIABILITIES! When they do open their parks, resorts and cruises, they'll probably make all the workers and guests sign waivers. Their park tickets will probably have some kind of waivers on them also.

Well sure, which is why I didn't even include legal liabilities in that list. Any sort of retail buisness needs to operate at some % of capacity in order to make a profit. I am no expert in the economics of Disney parks, but I know they make a lot of money, but they are also absolutely packed with people. If Disney needs to operate these parks with space between customers waiting for rides, and empty seats on the rides themselves, and so forth, there is no way they can cover the massive overhead for those parks. They are only profitable when they are packed to the gills with people. There is no guarantee they will be able to pack them like they usually do, so they are just throwing in the towel and paying the much reduced overhead for keeping the parks closed.

They already furloughed their workers, they aren't particularly interested in having to start paying them again.

[Omega10]

LEGAL LIABILITIES! When they do open their parks, resorts and cruises, they'll probably make all the workers and guests sign waivers. Their park tickets will probably have some kind of waivers on them also.

Legally they would absolutely CRUSH anyone who tried to come up against them. But the media story of how 1,284 people got the virus at Disneyworld would not be worth the profit they would make from the time the parks were open.

Disney theme parks are tailor made for spreading viruses.

[cubby]

The cynic in me thinks Trump doesn't give a damn because most of the dead so far have come from states that won't vote for him. New York in particular.

I can see him doing this for Blue states, although @Felya has a point, the most vulnerable are the elderly - his primary demographic. At least for NY. FL doesn't make any sense at all, because he needs that state to win - although perhaps he's just trying to win as many votes as possible by endearing himself to the social distancing protesters.

All of this assumes that Chump is a thoughtful person who understands the science and issues behind this whole mess. Nothing we've seen from his actions lends to that being true. What's more likely is that he sees the market and economy tanking, and he is trying to fix that. Who knows with that idiotic moron.

[Thekri]

I can see him doing this for Blue states, although @Felya has a point, the most vulnerable are the elderly - his primary demographic. At least for NY. FL doesn't make any sense at all, because he needs that state to win - although perhaps he's just trying to win as many votes as possible by endearing himself to the social distancing protesters.

All of this assumes that Chump is a thoughtful person who understands the science and issues behind this whole mess. Nothing we've seen from his actions lends to that being true. What's more likely is that he sees the market and economy tanking, and he is trying to fix that. Who knows with that idiotic moron.

To be "Fair" he is doing an admirable job of propping up the markets. NASDAQ is now positive for the year as of this morning which is totally insane. The problem this really highlights is that the Stock Market is completely detached from the actual economy. Because the actual economy is apocalyptic. Entire shopping centers still have empty parking lots, businesses are shuttered everywhere you look, and tens of millions are unemployed and facing financial ruin. But the stock market is bizarrely healthy right now, all things considered.

I really don't think it is possible to keep the market at these levels, and I honestly have no idea why it is so high right now. Trump will keep using it as an economic metric, but I can't think of a point in history where the stock market has been more separated from reality then it is right now.

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Hey, does anyone else remember Trump using Bridge-gate to attack Chris Christie in 2015? Because I totally do. Said some very specific things about Christie's involvement in it. Why was Trump backing an Obama DOJ Scam?

[Benggaul]

Hey, does anyone else remember Trump using Bridge-gate to attack Chris Christie in 2015? Because I totally do. Said some very specific things about Christie's involvement in it. Why was Trump backing an Obama DOJ Scam?

Trump unloads on Christie: He knew about Bridgegate, plus much morel

[DocSavageFan]

To be "Fair" he is doing an admirable job of propping up the markets. NASDAQ is now positive for the year as of this morning which is totally insane. The problem this really highlights is that the Stock Market is completely detached from the actual economy. Because the actual economy is apocalyptic. Entire shopping centers still have empty parking lots, businesses are shuttered everywhere you look, and tens of millions are unemployed and facing financial ruin. But the stock market is bizarrely healthy right now, all things considered.

I really don't think it is possible to keep the market at these levels, and I honestly have no idea why it is so high right now. Trump will keep using it as an economic metric, but I can't think of a point in history where the stock market has been more separated from reality then it is right now.

The stock market is forward looking...and optimistic regarding economic recovery. This 'reality' apparently eludes you.

[Felya]

The stock market is forward looking...and optimistic regarding economic recovery. This 'reality' apparently eludes you.

How many people are unemployed right now? It’s as if the Dow means jack shit for the middle class loosing millions of jobs.

[Edge-]

Why was Trump backing an Obama DOJ Scam?

"Look, here's the story: The George Washington Bridge, he knew about it. Hey, how do you have breakfast with people every day of your lives. They're closing up the largest bridge in the world," Trump said. "They never said, 'Hey boss, we're closing up the George Washington Bridge tonight.' No, they never said that. They're talking about the weather, right? So he knew about it. Totally knew about it."

Trump confirmed to be an Obama stooge working with the Obama "DEEP STATE" DoJ.

[Thepersona]

The stock market is forward looking...and optimistic regarding economic recovery. This 'reality' apparently eludes you.

I will guide you to the discussion on the stock market and why its recovery means jack shit for everyone else

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...2#post52323102