30 fps is tottaly NOT playable,but the thing is,these games on consoles do some tricky stuff to make those 30 fps not REALLY feel like 30 fps,if they felt like actual 30 fps the console market would proly go bankrupt,even when games dip to 50 fps it feels out of place for me,and its not about ''100% max sweat camera turn at light speed'',30 fps feels like a dead snail,60 fps is just bare minimum normal feel...people need to stop being ok with these low expectations
You say it like there is a choice.
And it’s not something that is displayed on the console or in the game.
Plus how are you gonna sell better consoles with just better frame rates to the general public? You’d have a way easier time selling by cranking up the graphics.
I’d guess most people probably just subconsciously notice that some games are a little choppier than others with no real thought beyond that.
But honestly, what are they gonna do? It’s not like there are lots of console customization options. And not everyone wants or can afford a gaming computer.
I guess you could also say they’re addressing the problem with next gen consoles.
Last edited by Mojo03; 2020-05-13 at 02:47 AM.
you dont have to think about the fps,the problem comes with feeling it,ofc people who only play 30 fps likely dont care as they dont know any better,and console do some tricks to make those 30 fps not actualy feel like 30 fps,its not like a pc game suddenly droping to 30 fps,it feels smoother on consoles
By "tricky stuff" you mean proper frame pacing. When you lock a PC game to 30 fps almost none of them produce proper frame pacing which leads to uneven frame timing and it feeling janky. It's not so much "tricky stuff" as it is developers aren't bothered to even try on PC and just assume you will brute force fps. There are some console games that also have shitty frame pacing and the result is usually people thinking they drop below 30 fps even when they don't.
I wonder how many TVs people own right now are actually 4K. Same difference, honestly - it's tech that easily a good chunk of the users who buy these things don't even have - and sometimes will still get it and use it despite it not really looking that much different. I mean yeah, 4k downscaled to a 1080p monitor will look clearer than a 1080p native resolution, but it isn't anywhere as good as even 1440p.
If you bought a new TV in the last 3-4 years you almost certainly have a 4k TV. If not, when you buy a new TV you will almost certainly have a 4k TV. They are literally dirt cheap now and not like you save any money by going 1080p(not even sure what company is still producing 1080p TVs).
It's getting there, and I'm sure by about 2022 and 2024 it'll get close to 1080p or surpass it. Including monitors, and not just TVs. But we definitely aren't there for where the common person has a 4k like they do 1080p right now.
You most certainly do not have a 4K. People aren't smart and will buy a big ass TV and not even realize it's only 1080p, or fuck - even 720p. I've seen 720p and 1080p TVs being sold at Wal-Mart, Target, etc. and for cheaper than the 4K variants. Anecdotal, of course.
Even the cheap ass knock offs they make only for black friday these days are 4k. I highly doubt anyone is buying a 1080p TV, those things are just old stock rotting in the stores until they eventually throw them away.
When you can get a brand name 4K tv in the 40+ inch range for sub $300 who in the actual fuck is buying a 1080p tv for the same price?
The new consoles are all about load times (which are said to be significantly faster) and 4k.
Appreciate your time with friends and family while they're here. Don't wait until they're gone to tell them what they mean to you.
Because a lot of times they aren't the same price? Not everyone goes online to buy these things, and often enough the in-store price is cheaper when compared to the 4K versions. Old stock - sure, obviously. But that doesn't stop people from buying these things, years ago or today. It's less, and just like 1080p before it, it'll eventually go away and no one will own 1080p. But for now, we're still in the in-between phase.
Pretty much all the retailers in my area still sell 720p (gag) and 1080p TVs. Quite cheap as you said, I could see a parent getting one for like, a young kid's first console or something.
Even sites like PCGamer and IGN/deals commonly link to 1080p displays on sale and such.
Appreciate your time with friends and family while they're here. Don't wait until they're gone to tell them what they mean to you.
Yeah, exactly. Online it's a no brainer - you buy 1440p or 4k, as both are basically the same price as their equivalents; sometimes a 1080p screen is like $20 - $50 cheaper so I can see if someone is really poor they'd opt for it. But IRL, the cost differences tend to be wider than that, at least in my case. Not everyone has the luxury of a Microcenter and such and get stuck with Wal-Mart and other stores like it.
Pretty sure we did not have 50% adoption rate of 4K TVs in 2016 / 17. You're more than welcome to provide that data, but everything I've seen online data wise says otherwise. We're finally hitting that threshold like 720p into 1080p did.
Last edited by PenguinChan; 2020-05-13 at 03:19 AM.
Walmart doesn't even have 1080p TVs on display anymore except for tiny ass ones for a kids room. Anything 40 inch and above is pure 4k. I seriously question when was the last time you actually stepped foot in a walmart, I know they're scary but it appears it's been years mate.