Mega-Thread: Coronavirus Pandemic

[PhaelixWW]

6 out of top 8, 75%, are Republicans. Republican governors en masse are very good at handling the Covid pandemic. DeWine is one of the many, not an outlier.

You can eat your post now.

If you seriously think that high approval is proof of being good at your job, then I seriously question your capacity for critical thinking.

[Belize]

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Why stop at 8?

Out of the top 15 (Everyone above 70%), 8 are Democrats.

You want to play statistics with me? I can play statistics. And I may not be great at math, but 8 (D) > 7 (R)

[Bdatik]

Why stop at 8?

Out of the top 15 (Everyone above 70%), 8 are Democrats.

You want to play statistics with me? I can play statistics. And I may not be great at math, but 8 (D) > 7 (R)

He's also referencing a 2 week old tweet and poll.

[Belize]

He's also referencing a 2 week old tweet and poll.

You know, I didn't even bother to check if his information was out of date because his argument was so flimsy to begin with. Selective data like "top 8" is a clear indication that you're trying to obfuscate data to falsely make claims.

A high schooler taking general statistics (I think that's still a class?) could have poked holes into it.

[Bdatik]

You know, I didn't even bother to check if his information was out of date because his argument was so flimsy to begin with. Selective data like "top 8" is a clear indication that you're trying to obfuscate data to falsely make claims.

A high schooler taking general statistics (I think that's still a class?) could have poked holes into it.

The top8 was the first thing that I noticed as well, because who does "Top 8" lists? Also, #9 is listed in the tweet he quoted too, and it just so happened to be a Democrat. I didn't catch the date until a few minutes after the fact.

See: https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...1#post52341750

[Cynep]

If you seriously think that high approval is proof of being good at your job, then I seriously question your capacity for critical thinking.

I provided links, check the article and PDF. There was a poll with many questions like "is Trump doing a good job with Covid?" "is your governor doing a good job?" etc. So this is approval of specific actions in this specific area, not overall. I think it's relevant for Covid discussion.

[Grapemask]

Why stop at 8?

Out of the top 15 (Everyone above 70%), 8 are Democrats.

You want to play statistics with me? I can play statistics. And I may not be great at math, but 8 (D) > 7 (R)

Really, if people want to pick and choose which pieces of statistical data they like best to make a point, the very same data finds that of the 8 governors with the highest disapproval, 6 of them are Republicans. 8 of 10. 12 of 15.

Approval ratings are goofy to talk about in this context anyway, given that we know of the rally-around-the-flag bias. Consider that the guy who suggested injecting disinfectant still has a sizable approval rating.

[Cynep]

Why stop at 8?

Out of the top 15 (Everyone above 70%), 8 are Democrats.

You want to play statistics with me? I can play statistics. And I may not be great at math, but 8 (D) > 7 (R)

The tweet listed top 8. The more you include the less it becomes about "top Covid response" and more about "who is elected as governors". If, say, 35 of 50 governors are Republicans, it's not relevant to Covid discussion. I was replying to a person saying "Republicans are doing bad job with Covid". Well no, they aren't. I'm done making my point, I know I'll be called a Trump supporter soon

[PhaelixWW]

I provided links, check the article and PDF. There was a poll with many questions like "is Trump doing a good job with Covid?" "is your governor doing a good job?" etc. So this is approval of specific actions in this specific area, not overall. I think it's relevant for Covid discussion.

I didn't say it wasn't relevant. I said it wasn't proof of making good decisions, merely popular ones. And it also doesn't take into account all sorts of factors, like how hard each state has been hit by the virus so far, and what each governor's approval was like prior to this.

Republican politicians as a whole seem to be much more interested in being liked by their constituency than doing a good job. More so than Democratic politicians.

[Belize]

The tweet listed top 8.

I'm sorry that you didn't bother to look into it any further, but that's not my problem. Try to go beyond tweets.

[Easo]

Non-Biased is the same as playing all sides I guess, lol.

As expected from someone who just know retweeted his own "OBAMAGATE!" tweet again. :/

Seriously, how can the other policy makers in your country still take the monkey in chief seriously?
Are they all that degenerated? Is it fear that makes them comply?

Not my country. I love the fat Americaball confusing people so easily. Ok, way too easily...
And that is not fear, it is both the idiocy and wilful ignorance, with the latter being the worst one. His voters do not care, you see?

[arandomuser]

Do i even want to know what he means by this?

i was saying that ironically

[Shadowferal]

Some potential good news https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52656808

So asymptomatic or those who have fought off the virus could have limited immunity...
That means most of us won't die from it anytime soon, if ever.

[PhaelixWW]

So asymptomatic or those who have fought off the virus could have limited immunity...
That means most of us won't die from it anytime soon, if ever.

Wait... what?

Your response makes no sense to me.

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I'm curious.

Does anyone here feel like fielding a guess as to what Bolsonaro's plan is in Brazil right now? I honestly can't for the life of me figure out what his endgame is.

[unfilteredJW]

Wait... what?

Your response makes no sense to me.

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I'm curious.

Does anyone here feel like fielding a guess as to what Bolsonaro's plan is in Brazil right now? I honestly can't for the life of me figure out what his endgame is.

Dead people can't oust you from power.

[Felya]

Dead people can't oust you from power.

Walks away slowly...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960_U...on_in_Illinois

Mazo, the Herald-Tribune reporter, later said that he "found names of the dead who had voted in Chicago, along with 56 people from one house."

[Captain N]

Walks away slowly...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960_U...on_in_Illinois

To be fair Mazo was a Pro-Nixon Republican and hand-waved: He found cases of Republican voter fraud in southern Illinois, but said that the totals "did not match the Chicago fraud he found.

Ya know Republicans maintaining hypocrisy in voter fraud for 60 years.

[breadisfunny]

wisconsin is now off lockdown baby! two weeks early thanks to the mighty efforts of those republicans and the republican controlled state supreme court. FREEDOM!!!!!!!! the individual counties are now setting their status. my counties status is undetermined. brown's is locked down. the bar's were opened back up but had to be closed again by the police because everyone packed into them like idiots. also almost 87k dead nationwide now.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/wisconsin-governor-says-many-more-people-could-get-sick-after-n1207316

[Zan15]

wisconsin is now off lockdown baby! two weeks early thanks to the mighty efforts of those republicans and the republican controlled state supreme court. FREEDOM!!!!!!!! the individual counties are now setting their status. my counties status is undetermined. brown's is locked down.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/wisconsin-governor-says-many-more-people-could-get-sick-after-n1207316

time to draft a bill that says medical personal have the freedom not to service these individuals.....i mean republicans want the right for pharmacist and others not to have to fill perscriptions for birth control and morning after pills...i am sure they will suppor their rights and support them not losing their jobs because of it!!

[Cynep]

I'm sorry that you didn't bother to look into it any further, but that's not my problem. Try to go beyond tweets.

So, according to your own research:

• Who is THE BEST governor concerning Covid response? A Republican.
• Who are top governors concerning Covid response? Mostly Republicans, some Democrats.
• Who are governors doing okay-ish, not the best job? Predominantly Democrats.

You're proving my point here.

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I didn't say it wasn't relevant. I said it wasn't proof of making good decisions, merely popular ones. And it also doesn't take into account all sorts of factors, like how hard each state has been hit by the virus so far, and what each governor's approval was like prior to this.

You do have a point.