Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Jotaux]

Not really. Can you give me a comparison to what Obama spent for his hotels? Whats the spending difference? Also I would stay at my own place if i could. So the only thing that would make you happy iis if he just stayed some where else? Would it be ok if it was 3000 a night rooms as long as it wasnt his? How much do you expect him to give?

If I recall correctly it took less than a year of Trump to equal 8 years of Obama for secret service costs because they were staying in Trump hotels.

[Felya]

Fave tweet of my day, so far.

Guess a draft dodger fits right in with keyboard warriors.

I get a lot of this vibe from it:

[solinari6]

If I recall correctly it took less than a year of Trump to equal 8 years of Obama for secret service costs because they were staying in Trump hotels.

Seems like I remember reading that the Trump hotels raised their prices for the Secret Service to the maximum amount allowed to be paid by the government. Totally a coincidence and not corrupt at all.

[Felya]

Seems like I remember reading that the Trump hotels raised their prices for the Secret Service to the maximum amount allowed to be paid by the government. Totally a coincidence and not corrupt at all.

Yeah, he made secret service drive for, if I remember right, over an hour when visiting England. Because he had to stay at his hotel. Also, his original Europe travel ban, excluded the only two countries in Europe, with Trump golf courses.

Edit: What might be the saddest thing in all this, is that US has a shit ton of issues, that don’t have billions behind them. They need keyboard warriors, because they can’t afford anything else. While Trump is a billionaire that can afford to buy an army of keyboard warriors, but they choose to do it for free. It’s insane...

[Odinfrost]

So, about ObamaGate... Anyone who can actually explain what it is, cause the closest I can gather is that it is something Trump is yelling about, but nobody knows what it is.
Is it the recent Michael Flynn crap? Because my only connection between the two is that they appeared at around the same time.

[solinari6]

So, about ObamaGate... Anyone who can actually explain what it is, cause the closest I can gather is that it is something Trump is yelling about, but nobody knows what it is.
Is it the recent Michael Flynn crap? Because my only connection between the two is that they appeared at around the same time.

I think it's the suggestion that Obama orchestrated the flynn investigation and russia probe to completely fuck over Trump's presidency.

[Acidbaron]

So, about ObamaGate... Anyone who can actually explain what it is, cause the closest I can gather is that it is something Trump is yelling about, but nobody knows what it is.
Is it the recent Michael Flynn crap? Because my only connection between the two is that they appeared at around the same time.

It's one big spooky term, all it's missing is church bells and thunder going off each time someone says it. But it doesn't have to be anything concrete people have been mislead by something like this before. Those who believe that already believe in other conspiracy theories, because you first have to completely distrust all the media that gives you information you don't like and you have to believe in things like deep state.

The donny dumbo team never makes anything concrete because simply making people question about it is enough.

[Felya]

So, about ObamaGate... Anyone who can actually explain what it is, cause the closest I can gather is that it is something Trump is yelling about, but nobody knows what it is.
Is it the recent Michael Flynn crap? Because my only connection between the two is that they appeared at around the same time.

There is nothing concrete about it. It sets an Obama meeting, that there are no evidence for, as a moment when liberal super friends gathered to plot against Trump. Somehow, this plot included unmasking of Flynn, as the corroborator to the Russian story. Flynn, who was fired by Obama, while having to register as a foreign agent, due to being a lobbyist to Turkey. The lie that caught Flynn, was actually in defense of Pence, as Pence repeating the lie on national television, is what made FBI aware that it Flynn spreading Russian misinformation... not Pence.

So... yeah... it’s so bad, that Trump couldn’t explain it and GOP unequivocally said the Obama shit is nonsense, but they are going after lower level officials.

[pathora44]

Not really. Can you give me a comparison to what Obama spent for his hotels? Whats the spending difference? Also I would stay at my own place if i could. So the only thing that would make you happy iis if he just stayed some where else? Would it be ok if it was 3000 a night rooms as long as it wasnt his? How much do you expect him to give?

I don't know nothing really that big, just you know Trump owns the hotels and sees all the profit from it. So Trump is siphoning money from the taxpayers to fill his coffers. Though I highly suspect you know all this and are doing everything in your little Trumpster brain to defend Trump.

[pathora44]

It's not corruption if dear leader is doing it.

Nothing is corruption if dear leader is doing it.

[Belize]

I’d say it’s likely population density and their reaction to it. But, that’s just my opinion. While regardless of that, Trump saying it will disappear in the summer, is demonstrably false. Regardless of my opinion...

It's mostly response to it.

All things considered 1/4 to 1/3rd of New Zealand's population live in Auckland. It's pretty dense.

[Paranoid Android]

Not really. Can you give me a comparison to what Obama spent for his hotels? Whats the spending difference? Also I would stay at my own place if i could. So the only thing that would make you happy iis if he just stayed some where else? Would it be ok if it was 3000 a night rooms as long as it wasnt his? How much do you expect him to give?

Are you that obtuse with whataboutisms?

You do realize we are talking about TRUMP OWNED PROPERTIES! Does the bold and capitalization help you explain the story. Ok so the difference between a President doing normal travel and a President intentionally spending taxpayer money at his businesses is different.

Do you get the difference? Do you? Please tell me you get the disparity. Please.

[Paranoid Android]

If I recall correctly it took less than a year of Trump to equal 8 years of Obama for secret service costs because they were staying in Trump hotels.

Yes. Plus that Trump has golfed more, which I the greater picture is not the tragic, but the Orange idiot railed against Obama golfing and he would always be working. Listen if he wants to golf and not on his properties where the money and marketing goes directly to him, that is fine.

We see it again, that Trumpkins have to make different rules for this person. It's a cult and the leader has to be infallable.

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Let's not forget the fact he's meant to have divested himself of these businesses.

Uggh! Yes. The simplest card trick ever of I don't run my business my children run my business. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

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I don't know nothing really that big, just you know Trump owns the hotels and sees all the profit from it. So Trump is siphoning money from the taxpayers to fill his coffers. Though I highly suspect you know all this and are doing everything in your little Trumpster brain to defend Trump.

The biggest thing in 2016 was the Clinton Foundation and how potentially that can become a coffer for the Clintons. Now that Trump is benefiting with evidence and no doubt about it, they make new rules or some whataboutism that is not even close.

[Trunksee]

Yes. Plus that Trump has golfed more, which I the greater picture is not the tragic, but the Orange idiot railed against Obama golfing and he would always be working. Listen if he wants to golf and not on his properties where the money and marketing goes directly to him, that is fine.

We see it again, that Trumpkins have to make different rules for this person. It's a cult and the leader has to be infallable.

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Uggh! Yes. The simplest card trick ever of I don't run my business my children run my business. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

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The biggest thing in 2016 was the Clinton Foundation and how potentially that can become a coffer for the Clintons. Now that Trump is benefiting with evidence and no doubt about it, they make new rules or some whataboutism that is not even close.

So did the Bush family make money off the presidency? Yea they did as well. Did Obama come out a very rich man yes he did. Did cClinton leave office a rich man yes he did. Is trump going to increase his net worth in the same way Obama did or is more likely to stay the same due to who he was before hand. Who benefitted from the presidency more?

[unfilteredJW]

So did the Bush family make money off the presidency? Yea they did as well. Did Obama come out a very rich man yes he did. Did cClinton leave office a rich man yes he did. Is trump going to increase his net worth in the same way Obama did or is more likely to stay the same due to who he was before hand. Who benefitted from the presidency more?

This is why no one should take you seriously.

Thanks for proving my comment from earlier.

[Trunksee]

So Im moving this post over here because its more relevant.

So who loved what our vaccine specialist testified to yesterday. Wow no wonder he lost his job. He is the biggest whiner I have ever seen and his boss probably just got sick of him. I doubt this behavior started with the pandemic. He's a chicken little. The sky is always falling. 12-18 months as he said completely unrealistic. 10 years is more likely as 5 years was the fastest they've done it. To bad no-one asked him how the original SARS vaccine went. Or what happens to people if it isnt vetted properly. Basically he said if your waiting for a vaccine kiss you ass goodbye.

I love how we never hear from economists on this and what the future looks like day by day the longer we stay closed. Dont you think the panic and hoarding will kick in then?

Remember we only need to survive another 57 months for that vaccine that may or may not work

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This is why no one should take you seriously.

Thanks for proving my comment from earlier.

See you wont answer. Its a so why is it only on these forums i hear about this. Why has congress not attempted to pass a law that he cant stay at his places?

[Dontrike]

I am going to try and explain why moving the goal posts is hard for people to swallow. It started as if we lockdown for 2 weeks we can slow the spread. 6 weeks later most are saying we are at the plateau. Now this was the scientists.

Let me get this straight. You believe that when you get new information and therefore make decisions based on them and therefore sometimes have to move up a deadline is "moving goalposts"? Do have that right? I hope I don't because that is stupid. The idea being that we only got one shot at making a decision and therefore it's some how bad to change one's decision when new information has appeared is baffling.

Cuomo also sent away the naval ship and is giving away ventilators.

Fuck you bringing up Cuomo for?

It came across as we were doing this to prepare hospitals for the surge. Now we again move the goal posts to say we can contain it, yet there is no indication that that is possible anymore with the amount of infections we have. Why are we staying closed instead of opening now?

You just answered your question in the sentences prior.

This virus isnt going to be gone according to Bright for at least if we go by ebola 5 years at a minimum from now. 10 years more likely for the vaccine and it may not work. Now if we eradicate it by quarantine will we ever open the borders? Other countries could reinfect ours. 5 to 10 years with that 12 to 18 months now being another science lie. We need to get these hospitals back open and survive 5 to 10 years and accept that death is inevitable

God, the fucking hyperbole here. Again, the idea that new information also brings better answers and suddenly previous ones are "lies" is so butt fuckingly dumb.

Atoms being the smallest thing ever didn't become a "lie" because we found out that indeed it was wrong and there are things smaller than that. You don't get how knowledge works, do you?

Not really. Can you give me a comparison to what Obama spent for his hotels?

The difference is that Obama didn't own hotels that tax payers were essentially paying him for. The fact you think the two are comparable in any way is astonishing how public school has failed us.

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Is trump going to increase his net worth in the same way Obama did or is more likely to stay the same due to who he was before hand. Who benefitted from the presidency more?

No, he fucking didn't. No president has done anything like Trump is doing with his own properties. The only thing that comes close is Biden got like $40k from doing shit like that, which is also scummy.

How do you not get this? We should not be paying Trump to stay at his own properties. He should not be profiting off of going golfing and staying at his low class hotel(s). The fact you immediately didn't agree it is corrupt and wrong and went to defend Trump instead shows you are a hypocrite at best and......a bunch of things I would get banned for if I typed them all out.

[Trunksee]

Let me get this straight. You believe that when you get new information and therefore make decisions based on them and therefore sometimes have to move up a deadline is "moving goalposts"? Do have that right? I hope I don't because that is stupid. The idea being that we only got one shot at making a decision and therefore it's some how bad to change one's decision when new information has appeared is baffling.



Fuck you bringing up Cuomo for?



You just answered your question in the sentences prior.



God, the fucking hyperbole here. Again, the idea that new information also brings better answers and suddenly previous ones are "lies" is so butt fuckingly dumb.

Atoms being the smallest thing ever didn't become a "lie" because we found out that indeed it was wrong and there are things smaller than that. You don't get how knowledge works, do you?



The difference is that Obama didn't own hotels that tax payers were essentially paying him for. The fact you think the two are comparable in any way is astonishing how public school has failed us.

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No, he fucking didn't. No president has done anything like Trump is doing with his own properties. The only thing that comes close is Biden got like $40k from doing shit like that, which is also scummy.

How do you not get this? We should not be paying Trump to stay at his own properties. He should not be profiting off of going golfing and staying at his low class hotel(s). The fact you immediately didn't agree it is corrupt and wrong and went to defend Trump instead shows you are a hypocrite at best and......a bunch of things I would get banned for if I typed them all out.

Lets start with the Bright stuff. There is no way to refute that we are being lied to about the vaccine. Fastest vaccine approved by the FDA is Ebola. 5 years with the normal being 10. Will you trust a vaccine if it comes out in 12 months from start? That isnt even enough time to see if it will cause birth defects or worse cause cancer or other conditions. I for one refuse to get it until the average for a vaccine. This is not anti vaxer. I have had all mine and so have my kids. So yes we are being lied to daily by the scientists. They also have changed the reasoning behind the shut down. There was never a plan to ramp up hospitals so we could start going back out as I see it.

How much worth did he gain? After takimg the room that still may have been rented to someone else? Also they probably have areas closed off to other guest so he may be losing there. He may not be making the extra money you think he is. It may not even be up to bidens 40k yet.

[Breccia]

Let's not forget the fact he's meant to have divested himself of these businesses.

Have we talked about Trump personally and directly intervening to keep the FBI headquarters near his hotel? Because that's still true.

[Thepersona]

Let's not forget the fact he's meant to have divested himself of these businesses.

I'm almost sure that the blatant level of corruption that the Dotard has, gets the trumpkins hard. Owning the libz or some shit like that.

You trumpkins are cutting your nose (and putting a Nurgle plague in the wound) to spite your face

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I don’t know why I feel the need to keep saying this. But, the earth is round, tilted on an axis. This results in a southern and northern hemispheres. This causes places like Australia, to be 6 months behind places like America. When it’s January and February in US, in Australia is more a kin to our July and August. We knew what happens in the summer, because it did happen in the summer.

Oh and the hottest place on earth is in US... not close to equator. Biomes on the equator are varied:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biome

Edit: Sorry, I watch too many flat earth debunking videos.

Antofagasta is near-ish the equator, and is currently getting trounced by the coronavirus.

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Two of the best contained areas are Australia and New Zealand. So maybe it helps?

Prolly not. See how Peru and Ecuador are doing.
A hint: see the news about corpses being left in the open.