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No single game has killed WoW, but the secret is that they all collectively chipped away at it. During WoD, retail WoW had 2 million subs and FF14 had about 500,000. Now you can bet that retail WoW has about 1 mlilion, while FF14 still has 500,000. So WoW is not that far ahead of its competition any longer. The only exception is the spikes in players it gets during expansion release.
There was no "WoW killer" but in hindsight they were all WoW killers when combined.
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Thread: Those Other Games did kill WoW
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2020-05-17, 03:44 AM #1Banned
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Those Other Games did kill WoW
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2020-05-17, 03:49 AM #2Brewmaster
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lmao there are a lot of shit takes on this forum but this one is impressive. Complete ass-pull sub numbers, comparison to niche games that haven't captured even close to the mainstream attention WoW has, and the best part: a confirmation that, indeed, most people don't actually want to play a game for 15+ years straight and won't randomly decide one day "oh yeah, maybe I should try World of Warcraft now - I know I've been putting it off since 2004, but I really want to join a game where everyone else has almost two decades more experience than me". Well done.
Originally Posted by AryuFate
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2020-05-17, 03:50 AM #3Titan
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WoW is the only thing that has hurt and will eventually kill WoW. Game became fat. The feast was fine and plentiful. Then some people left that made it great. Others came in that wanted to put their name on the wall along side them and just started re-inviting the wheel over and over again until the wheel started to work less well. Endless systems built on top of more endless systems. Got to the point where you have to join like 3rd party websites to be competitive or get invited to groups because it is next to impossible to determine what is actually going on in the game without them beyond the starting point of each expansion.
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2020-05-17, 03:50 AM #4The Undying
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I believe the term you are looking for then is "WoW killed itself."
FFXIV - Maduin (Dynamis DC)
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2020-05-17, 03:54 AM #5Banned
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No, this is not another super-enlightened "only WoW can kill WoW" response. Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer
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2020-05-17, 03:56 AM #6The Patient
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WoW isn't dead yet, so your premise is flawed. It does have a 'Dad bod' nowadays however...
WoW will eventually die of old age - no one is going to kill it.
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2020-05-17, 03:57 AM #7Banned
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It is "dead" compared to what the player base expects and Blizzard's standards. Originally Posted by Chakah
WoW isn't dead yet, so your premise is flawed. It does have a 'Dad bod' nowadays however...
WoW will eventually die of old age - no one is going to kill it.
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2020-05-17, 03:58 AM #8Brewmaster
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Instead it's another super-enlightened "time killed WoW" response. What you've posted is literally akin to saying "i had an apple and it sat in the sun for a week and now no one wants to eat it". No shit. Originally Posted by AryuFate
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2020-05-17, 04:00 AM #9Banned
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No, I'm saying other apples surfaced, so a good number of people are now trying the other apples. But why am I giving in to this flawed analogy bullshit? Originally Posted by Nzx
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2020-05-17, 04:07 AM #10Brewmaster
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Same reason anyone is replying to your atrocious thread that doesn't say anything new and isn't even half as much of an epiphany as you seem to think it is. Are you seriously surprised that in all the years that have passed since 2004, the sub numbers for this game have gone down? You can't legitimately believe that that is strange? Originally Posted by AryuFate
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2020-05-17, 04:09 AM #11Banned
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Ehm. You do know that WoW had 5.5M during WoD yeah? Originally Posted by AryuFate
FFXIV has less than 600k right now AND it's including alts.
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2020-05-17, 04:09 AM #12Legendary!
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“Every other game killed WoW.”
Same post points out random numbers showing WoW still has more subs than other game. Somehow translates to WoW has been killed.
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2020-05-17, 04:11 AM #13Banned
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Those numbers wouldn't be as low as they are had not so many alternatives popped up. Durr. Originally Posted by Nzx
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2020-05-17, 04:12 AM #14I am Murloc!
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I do not know why people keep pushing these kinds of theories. X killed wow. WoW killed wow. What is this all in aid of? What is the purpose of pushing out these theories? Originally Posted by AryuFate
What if you are right?
What if you are wrong?
I really like to know what you are trying achieve here with these theories. Are you hoping Wow and somehow it will resurrect from its ashes anew?
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2020-05-17, 04:13 AM #15Banned
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It's fun to talk about the rise and fall of a titan (no pun, intended) and helps to prevent future mistakes. Originally Posted by Sansnom
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2020-05-17, 04:16 AM #16The Insane
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The competitors only got ahead of WoW when WoW began shoving away it's audience. Naturally, other game developers jumped on the chance to supply the untapped demand that Blizzard was deliberately refusing to supply, which leads into the situation we are in now where dissatisfaction with WoW is at an all time high and WoW players are migrating to FFXIV.
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2020-05-17, 04:17 AM #17Dreadlord
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Originally Posted by Nzx
Seriously - Imagine joining a game from the jump and trying to figure out how to play it, and then you're hit with WoW's systems that have been compounded for 15 years. They've done enough streamlining to get you to 120, so you at least stick it out to there.
Then you're hit with a barrage of quests to go to Silithus and then go to Mechagon, then get some essences? What are essen-SEND THE FLEET TO NAZJATAR, wait, huh? I WANT TO SPEAK TO YOU IN CHAMBER OF HEART YOU NEED CORRUPTION AND TO DEFEAT NZOTH! But wait - who was Azshara then? ESSENCES! AZERITE! CORRUPTION! CLOAK! EPICS! ENCHANTS! WORLD QUESTS! Do I need this garrison rock anymore? What about the garrison? And so on, and so on, and so on.
And then you quit forever.
This game likely hasn't been sustaining any new players for an expansion or two now. Of course the numbers are going to drop as people burn out for the last time.
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2020-05-17, 04:19 AM #18Elemental Lord
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Its big brain time!
Interesting and spicy take!
My spicy one liner for this thread is:
"Times changed...WoW did not (enough)"
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2020-05-17, 04:37 AM #19Titan
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I sure would like to see the evidence for the numbers you claim. The only thing dead here is your honesty and credibility. Originally Posted by AryuFate
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2020-05-17, 04:39 AM #20Old God
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You could have just typed 'complete nonsense' and saved yourself a lot of time and mockery. Originally Posted by AryuFate
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