Wait a sec, shouldn't they rename Shadow spec to Void?

[melzas]

Isn't Shadow and Void same thing, just as Light and Holy?

Like,Void is the power source and Shadow is it's manifestation same as Holy is the source and Light is its manifestation.

[thesmall001]

Void and Shadow are different words for the same thing.

Void and Shadow are different words for different things that occasionally overlap thematically. As they fleshed out the Lore, shadow went from being a Fel thing, to a Necrotic thing, to a Void thing. Shadow has tendrils in each of these domains and I'd argue we've seen hints of it in other areas too (the Loa appear to be Shadow Wild Gods, Time seems to be a Shadow of the Arcane Order or things).

I believe Blizzard will adapt this to suit their future story. You can get pretty far with 6 different takes on 6 different natural orders etc. That's the good thing about the Cosmology stuff, you can get all the different combinations to interact and see what they make.

[keldarepewpew]

shaman have been the easiest to level as resto for several expansions. There was a long thread in legion about resto leveling vs other specs. Druids are pretty close to that threshold, too.

It really doesn't tell you anything.

Shadowmain here the spec doesnt work whitout chorus simple as that. Sl shadow is a spec that simply doesnt work. Its like having Buikder but no spender (you ramp up to nothing in voidform) no amount of tuning will fix it either.

[Beloren]

No, the name is okay.

Your knowledge needs to be updated. Shadow magic is not death magic.

Probably, but it's a bit misleading, I like what this guy said.

I think blizzard themselves don't know what the differences are between Shadow and Void. I would like them to be separate entities ofc as shadow in fiction is often associated with hauntings, death, ghosts and the undeath. In warcraft that would in-turn associate shadow with the shadowlands, it would make more sense for shadow priests to be associated with shadowlands as that is where the perished souls go to in WoW lore. it can complete the shadow priests role as the healer of the living, the guide to the perished souls and the punisher of the wicked souls. The Void doesn't make much sense in that regard as it is it's own separate realm with it's own powerful entities such as the voidlords and the lesser eldritch powers known as old gods , this would in turn free up a role for a unique new class to be introduced.

They could also make the shadow priests use both void and death magic, most damage dealers do have accesst o several spell schools anyway.

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Void and Shadow are different words for different things that occasionally overlap thematically. As they fleshed out the Lore, shadow went from being a Fel thing, to a Necrotic thing, to a Void thing. Shadow has tendrils in each of these domains and I'd argue we've seen hints of it in other areas too (the Loa appear to be Shadow Wild Gods, Time seems to be a Shadow of the Arcane Order or things).

I believe Blizzard will adapt this to suit their future story. You can get pretty far with 6 different takes on 6 different natural orders etc. That's the good thing about the Cosmology stuff, you can get all the different combinations to interact and see what they make.

This is a good explanation.

[Azadina]

you don't know what you're talking about and you're very loud

Sure thing my dear BFA roller.

[Saltysquidoon]

On the next episode of: things that literally don't matter.

There's barely a difference and "shadow priest" is a label people have known for years. Might just keep it

RIP in peace Combat, nevar 5get.

[Soon-TM]

shaman have been the easiest to level as resto for several expansions. There was a long thread in legion about resto leveling vs other specs. Druids are pretty close to that threshold, too.

It really doesn't tell you anything.

It only tells you that those DD specs are broken as well. It also happened with Ret in Cata, it isn't something unique to spriest. And I never implied it was.

[Austilias]

Shadow went downhill after MoP, and continues to do so. Now it's awful, and Voidform and the like don't help it

That's because Voidform can't help it. Voidform, and the mechanics/spells built around it, are literally the entire problem with Shadow Priest right now, but Blizzard can't bring themselves to swallow their pride and remove them.

[RoKPaNda]

That's because Voidform can't help it. Voidform, and the mechanics/spells built around it, are literally the entire problem with Shadow Priest right now, but Blizzard can't bring themselves to swallow their pride and remove them.

I mean, void form is one of the more fun and interesting mechanics. Prior to that playing Spriest was just playing a warlock with fewer buttons and lower damage.

[Ophenia]

Isn't Shadow and Void same thing, just as Light and Holy?

Like,Void is the power source and Shadow is it's manifestation same as Holy is the source and Light is its manifestation.

Dunno really. Chronicles Vol.I established that the cosmic force is Shadow, they have just put Void in parenthesis next to Shadow just to remind us that it somehow exists.

My main bet is that Blizzard has no clue wtf all this thing is, so they just slap words wherever they want

then what would you call a Void Elf Shadow Priest? a Void Elf Void Priest?

No sense in asking that though. Void Elves as a Race doesn't make sense to begin with. Void Elves are Blood Elves Shadow Priests. So a Void Elf Arcane Mage is a Blood Elf Shadow Priest Arcane Mage. o/

[Austilias]

I mean, void form is one of the more fun and interesting mechanics. Prior to that playing Spriest was just playing a warlock with fewer buttons and lower damage.

Fun at what cost?

The problem with Shadow Priest is that Void Form is obviously too difficult to balance (they've tried and failed for 2 expansions now). It's either OP beyond belief, or so weak that it literally renders Shadow Priest a dead spec.

I would rather have a somewhat less fun but more consistently decent (or even good) spec. I would also say that the Warlock class/spec has changed so drastically from what it used to be that there probably wouldn't be any 'clash' from Shadow Priest being reverted/changed to what Warlocks used to be.

[Philomene]

I mean, void form is one of the more fun and interesting mechanics. Prior to that playing Spriest was just playing a warlock with fewer buttons and lower damage.

lmao I’m so done with those forums

[Raetary]

I mean, void form is one of the more fun

Considering the disdain the priest players have for voidform and its playstyle, i beg to differ.

[KOUNTERPARTS]

I mean, void form is one of the more fun and interesting mechanics. Prior to that playing Spriest was just playing a warlock with fewer buttons and lower damage.

Great meme.


Personally I miss WoD era Shadow Priest. Clarity of Power instant-Mind Blasts, instant-Mind Spikes, 3-Shadow Orb'd Devouring Plagues... oh man, Ashran was so fun as a run-and-gun Shadow Priest.

[Kokolums]

No, change it to Brooding Edgelord Darkness.

[kaminaris]

At least MoP/WoD spriest was fully functional, without needing first a crapton of gear and procs to be at least playable. The SL alpha spriest (i.e. the BfA spriest without the borrowed powers) is utter trash. It's quite telling when your healing spec (Disc) is better for levelling than the dps one.

Spriest was always garbage bottom tier leveling. I leveled all the classes since mop.

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shaman have been the easiest to level as resto for several expansions. There was a long thread in legion about resto leveling vs other specs. Druids are pretty close to that threshold, too.

It really doesn't tell you anything.

I found ele leveling easy.

[sam86]

*looks at game files*
Oh, look, all of these deal SHADOW damage because void damage was never implemented

Voidlord is categorized demon for ages even if they shitted on the over 15 years lore and decided u know what, he isn't demon, and warlocks summon it because fuck lore