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    Quote Originally Posted by Beastiel View Post
    hardly uncommon, she probably just has an endomorphic body type and only does light cardio when she goes to the gym.

    the weight loss that comes with eating low calories has diminishing returns extremely relative to your body composition.


    I knew someone who used to go to the gym for years, only one time I went with her and it was a waste of time. Just a lot of weak mat work for example and paddling machines.
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    Does she use vinegrettes on salads? Oil is very calorie heavy.
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    Bodies are made in the kitchen not the gym.

    The gym will help by burning calories and increasing muscle mass and thereby base metabolic rate, but by far the biggest change to body composition comes from changing one's diet. Being consistent with small changes is best, not drastic sudden changes that are unlikely to stick.

    Your friend must not be in a calorie deficit, no matter how much they workout. A person that works out 6 hours every day will still get fat if they spent the remaining 18 hours a day eating burgers.
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    go a few days without food (google fasting, water fasting, juice fasting, dry fasting)

    easiest and fastest way to lose weight is to lay in the bed for 20 days without eating food
    you won't die, you'll heal your chronic diseases, shit a ton of queued shit(guys with beer belly have stuck queued shit in there, not fat) and piss lots of toxins out

    i've done 45 days on water and an occasional pomegranate juice - i had real visions, lsd-like sensations, insights into human relations.. etc it's very good for your mental health
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    Quote Originally Posted by thestyledare View Post
    So as per her, she goes to the exercise center 5 days out of each week. What's more, she's not a fit young lady. She's not incredibly fat however she's not slightly chubbier than a normal individual. She's something in the middle.

    She additionally consistently eats low-calorie salad and loads her calories in each dinner.

    Also, we're not discussing a multi-year elderly person who is a path over the hill. We're discussing a multi-year-old young lady.

    So what the heck?
    Her body, her choice.

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    I've seen people not exercising a single moment in a day lose weight, and I've seen gym-nuts gain weight.

    And it's come down to diet in every single case. The only exception, was 2 of my relatives. It later came to light that they had PCOS AND Thyroid issues. Diet still became their main source of weightloss once they were properly medicated. It was amazing to see, really...
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    I'd like to see pics of people who claim going to the gym is a waste of time. It is true that your diet is a major part of losing weight and getting healthier, but cardio and strength training accelerate weight loss and promote heart health. People who go on crash diets never keep their weight off. It's a lifestyle change and people who work out, or are at least active, combined with calorie counting will be healthier than people who just diet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostSkull View Post
    She sounds fine. The only problem to solve is why you think her body is your business.
    ah typical public defendant. you have ZERO information of who is the "She" here and yet you jump into taking a front to attack someone.

    that "she" might be the OP herself or his/her sister or his/her mother or his/her wife or Girl friend or even his/her daughter who is looking for a solution and OP is just trying to help her. maybe next time if you don't have anything actually useful to say you can keep your SJW thoughts to yourself right?

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    Her body, her choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuminaL View Post
    ah typical public defendant. you have ZERO information of who is the "She" here and yet you jump into taking a front to attack someone.

    that "she" might be the OP herself or his/her sister or his/her mother or his/her wife or Girl friend or even his/her daughter who is looking for a solution and OP is just trying to help her. maybe next time if you don't have anything actually useful to say you can keep your SJW thoughts to yourself right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thestyledare View Post
    So as per her, she goes to the exercise center 5 days out of each week. What's more, she's not a fit young lady. She's not incredibly fat however she's not slightly chubbier than a normal individual. She's something in the middle.

    She additionally consistently eats low-calorie salad and loads her calories in each dinner.

    Also, we're not discussing a multi-year elderly person who is a path over the hill. We're discussing a multi-year-old young lady.

    So what the heck?
    my guess its typical case of "i eat salad for dinner , jogg for 1 hour in gym and then eat 5 doughuts in the evening - why dont i loose weight"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seranthor View Post
    I see you are one of those that see women as property or 2nd class citizens to be lorded over.
    I'm truly sorry for you if that's what you understand from what I wrote.

    I honestly dont want to have to continue this considering how closed your thought process is, but for the sake of conversation please do enlighten me with your thought process that led you to such understanding when I said "dont start blaming when you know nothing, OP might even talk about herself as far as we know"
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    First, what kind of "fat" are we talking about? Obese? Simply overweight?

    Second, what does she do when she visits the gymn? I see a lot of young women doing workouts with weights that won't result in any kind of resistance to your applied force. Like bench-pressing 5kg or so. You either have to do heavy cardio / HIIT or work on those muscles if you want to see any effect. I prefer the latter as more muscle mass = more calories burned during the day/while you do not workout. No, she won't bulk, she'll just get stronger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Need detailed gym regimen.
    Counting calories is all well and good, but if she's not really working it, sweat dripping, burning it, then she's wasting time.

    Tell her to go jogging and not to stop until her lungs are burning. Rest a few mins and repeat until her body feels like a lead weight.
    If you're at a caloric deficit then you don't need to exercise to lose weight. The issue is getting to a caloric deficit, which is obviously made easier when you're active and your body is burning up energy more fruitfully. We see all the time that some people can just eat and eat without putting on weight, while others need to be more careful and put on weight easily, it's because the energy our body uses from day to day isn't static and differs from person to person, even when we're sitting on our asses.

    And you have different conditions that result in weight issues, or eating the wrong foods for your body that results in your body storing more energy as fat... It's a complex situation that I'm not qualified to really try to explain but I've watched a bunch of podcasts with doctors and nutritionists to know it's not always so simple. When I lost weight a few years back by changing my diet and eating windows I went from being slightly overweight my whole life to seriously struggling to maintain weight and having people comment that I needed to put on weight, and during that I did no exercise, I just melted.

    Weight loss is mostly done in the kitchen (or by staying out of it!).
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuminaL View Post
    I'm truly sorry for you if that's what you understand from what I wrote.

    I honestly dont want to have to continue this considering how closed your thought process is, but for the sake of conversation please do enlighten me with your thought process that led you to such understanding when I said "dont start blaming when you know nothing, OP might even talk about herself as far as we know"
    You say you dont want to continue, yet here you are popping off again. If you dont understand the concept of someone having agency over their own body then dont bother responding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seranthor View Post
    You say you dont want to continue, yet here you are popping off again. If you dont understand the concept of someone having agency over their own body then dont bother responding.
    and sadly you have no idea about the concept of someone doing something for a friend to help them, not to have "agency" over them. must be sad thinking like you do all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuminaL View Post
    and sadly you have no idea about the concept of someone doing something for a friend to help them, not to have "agency" over them. must be sad thinking like you do all the time.
    You seem quite desperate to have a conversation about something you supposedly didn't want to even talk about.

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    This is a near word for word copy of a previous thread, which was locked. As per previous thread:

    A lack of clear information and conjecture which leads to guessing about medical matters, which is not allowed here.

    Furthermore, the subject of this discussion isn't here to give any real details. This thread is locked.

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