[Movie] Snyder Cut: Justice League

[Egomaniac]

Unless someone else directed those reshoots it'd still be the Snyder Cut.

No it wouldn't. The "Snyder Cut" is the version of the movie as it was before they brought in Whedon for reshoots. Reshoots would be changing that.

[Ealyssa]

I think most people can agree that BvS was a superior product to JL

Hahahahaha holy shit NOPE. BvS is the most garbage thing ever made about superman...

BvS is what actually destroyed any hope for a decent DCU. JL is a bad movie, but it is bad because of every single Snyder shit nuggets that stayed after Whedon's modification. JL is still a Snyder movie at its core, and that's why it is bad.

But hey, we will finally have that "SnYdEr CuT". And I really have no hope about it.

[ohiostate124]

And that is highly unlikely to happen unless DC introduces the JL heroes properly, with their own movies or TV series, before doing a JL movie. Otherwise a good portion of the film would be wasted making quick, super abbreviated introductions for all the heroes.

Unnecessary imo. They should have made Justice League the first film of the cinematic universe and then broken off into solo films.

[Egomaniac]

So would finishing the CGI then. And reshoots don't necessarily mean shit's changing, just that they don't have all the shots they wanted for the final product. Sometimes it's as simple as additional coverage for a scene.

Finishing the CG retains the same "vision". REshoots would be "Well, now that I've had a couple years to think it over...this is what I would do differently."

He already stated in a tweet that the "snyder cut" already exists. It's the version of the movie they showed focus groups that prompted the inital call for Joss Whedon's Reshoots.

[Adamas102]

Unnecessary imo. They should have made Justice League the first film of the cinematic universe and then broken off into solo films.

I disagree. While I'm not particularly invested in the whole Marvel vs. DC thing, I do think the former did it right. Yeah, all these characters are well known enough, everyone knows at least the basics of their backstories, but tossing their relatively fresh cinematic renditions into a big ensemble movie together right from the get go just felt off. They wanted the payoff of Avengers without doing the half dozen movies worth of work to get there and it just didn't pan out. Whether things would have been better if they had done a couple solo Batman movies, another solo Superman movie, and a handful of others for the rest of the cast before jumping into JL is hard to say, but it's pretty obvious that the way they went from MoS to BvS to JL was a failure.

[Clone]

I got my people mixed up. For some reason I thought JJ Abrams took over from Snyder on JL, when it was Joss Whedon. So replace "Abrams Cut" with "Whedon Cut" in my statement.

Don't worry. There is a similar movement in the SW fandom for an Abrams cut.

[Skorpionss]

I disagree. While I'm not particularly invested in the whole Marvel vs. DC thing, I do think the former did it right. Yeah, all these characters are well known enough, everyone knows at least the basics of their backstories, but tossing their relatively fresh cinematic renditions into a big ensemble movie together right from the get go just felt off. They wanted the payoff of Avengers without doing the half dozen movies worth of work to get there and it just didn't pan out. Whether things would have been better if they had done a couple solo Batman movies, another solo Superman movie, and a handful of others for the rest of the cast before jumping into JL is hard to say, but it's pretty obvious that the way they went from MoS to BvS to JL was a failure.

It wasn't a failure because they didn't do the solo movies, it was a failure because the movies were subpar due to weak writing, especially in JL. The marvel movies were necessary because those characters are not even 10% as popular as DC characters are. Everyone knows Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash etc, even in the mainstream. Almost nobody knew most of the Avengers before their solo movies.

[Ivanstone]

Hahahahaha holy shit NOPE. BvS is the most garbage thing ever made about superman...

BvS is what actually destroyed any hope for a decent DCU. JL is a bad movie, but it is bad because of every single Snyder shit nuggets that stayed after Whedon's modification. JL is still a Snyder movie at its core, and that's why it is bad.

Wonder Woman is a Snyder movie. A more capable director oversaw the movie but BvS was a useful springboard for entertaining movies like WW, Aquaman and Shazam.

[Masser]

JL is still a Snyder movie at its core, and that's why it is bad.

Joostice League is a Joss Whedon Film at its core and THAT'S why it is bad.

[oplawlz]

While Snyder has done a lot of questionable of things in his projects I think most people can agree that BvS was a superior product to JL.

Almost nobody agrees with this, unless maybe your mother is also named Martha.

[Volatilis]

Whats funny is that they are gonna chop the SNYDER CUT into multiple viewings to get more weeks subscription out of people.

I cant believe theres that many people wanting another mediocre synder film.

[Highelf]

lol

That's like comparing kraft mac & cheese to a generic brand. Sure, it's better, but it's still friggin mac & cheese. Zack Snyder is a hack...FFS, "Martha" changes Batman's mind? /doublefacepalm

I am all for DC to step up and being a competitive force to Marvel. Polishing a turd is not the path to greatness. DC needs to stop fooling themselves that they are making intellectual, dark, gritty greatness and start putting together good material. Step one is to stop trying to squeeze a well-seasoned steak out of a pile of mac & cheese. Step two is to hire some good writers and put Zack Snyder out to pasture.

That actually makes sense to me that, that would cause batman to pause and realize that he has become the person that killed his parents and it humanized superman. I got goosebumps. I always laughed at the thought of seeing BvS, but finally gave it a shot and it was no where near as bad as I thought it would be. No it's not a perfect movie but there are a lot of really good things done in that movie imo. Reminded me of Episode III, some things are just really great and others are, not.

JL on the other hand, along with SS, will never ever be seen by my eyes again.

[Masser]

Batman V Superman Ultimate Edition is a Masterpiece. The sequel comes out next year and it is called ZACK SNYDER'S Justice League!!!

You better get ready folks. There will be no studio meddling this time!

[Volatilis]

That actually makes sense to me that, that would cause batman to pause and realize that he has become the person that killed his parents and it humanized superman.

Taking down a guy that if turned evil/having a bad day could wipe out the planet is the same as back alley mobsters shooting rich folk leaving the theater?

Ok.

They could of have superman do something to show off his perfect uncorruptable moral compass which earns batmans respect like in the other material that do it far better. But nah moms name it is. Much deep.

[Egomaniac]

Reshoots doesn't necessarily mean changing anything. Many times it means they want additional coverage or to add a scene for one reason or another. Reshoots is just a term for more photography after they've wrapped principle photography. Much like the CGI.

CGI was already planned. Snyder declined to do reshoots when he was still directing. That's why Whedon was brought on.

[Volatilis]

CGI was already planned. Snyder declined to do reshoots when he was still directing. That's why Whedon was brought on.

declined to do reshoots? What are you on about.

he stepped down because his daughter died.

[Egomaniac]

declined to do reshoots? What are you on about.

he stepped down because his daughter died.

He stepped down after the reshoots.

[ohiostate124]

He stepped down after the reshoots.

You just said he declined to do the reshoots. How could he step down after reshoots he declined to do?

[scelero]

Congratulations to everyone who successfully shown the big hollywood ups, that DLC is in fact, something fans will demand if you put out an unfinished product. Even if that product is a movie.

That said, good job on asking for a...... what do you call this.....a.....a.......

DIRECTOR'S CUT.

In the history of movie making, this is definitely the first ever Director's Cut I've ever seen or heard of. Oh, wait......


But seriously, I hope they provide you guys with said Director's Cut with a cliffhanger on a movie they're not renewing. So you can ask for more DLC.

[Egomaniac]

You just said he declined to do the reshoots. How could he step down after reshoots he declined to do?

They decided to do reshoots. Snyder Stepped down at a later date.