Corruption Vendor Cycles

[Great Destiny Man]

But EVERY SINGLE PERSON replying to me instead of presenting counter arguments and using common sense...they are personally attacking me????????
This only makes it worse and make me think even harder this is a scheme...which is only making things worse...for me, at least.

So...could any of you defend Blizzard on this game design without attacking me and using common sense?
Please?

Oh spare me the pity party. You're going around accusing people of being knowing complicit in some grand Blizzard scheme to waste people's time so you're in no position to start feeling victimised by "personal attacks".

[Big Thanks]

No, I mean exactly what I stated in response to the other persons attempt at an example and how it falls flat.
Also, I’m really tired to this excuse of “keep people subbed.” If people are subbed to play the game, then waiting for a cycle of something to be available makes no difference as that person is still subbed regardless of waiting for a specific item to be available.
If said person is waiting for that item to then join in and play, then they can obviously just unsub until it’s up and then resub when it’s up to play them. This point is even further terrible decision making as said person is even further behind for just not doing the content they want said items for, especially when they lose power by waiting out and not doing what they want.
This example of yours, and others, is terrible and makes no sense when actually given any real thought.

In this post you say why my argument makes no sense. Ok, fair enough

But you dont explain why the Blizzard's design makes sense though...why is this timagate "a thing".

why?

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Oh spare me the pity party. You're going around accusing people of being knowing complicit in some grand Blizzard scheme to waste people's time so you're in no position to start feeling victimised by "personal attacks".

Then tell us "Why" is this timegate good and makes sense for the player...

[Eapoe]

In this post you say why my argument makes no sense. Ok, fair enough

But you dont explain why the Blizzard's design makes sense though...why is this timagate "a thing".

why?

That wasn’t the question you posed to me. Others have also answered you, so why should I repeat their answer to you?
Also, I refer back to the rest of my post that you ignored:

“Also, I’m really tired to this excuse of “keep people subbed.” If people are subbed to play the game, then waiting for a cycle of something to be available makes no difference as that person is still subbed regardless of waiting for a specific item to be available.”

[Ashirogi]

entitled mentality in a nutshell. so boring. these people should just quit if they hate it so much. never understood how can someone play a game that he feels so hateful to even write on forums how bad it is yet still keep playing it. baffling. i have things i dont like in its current state but i still play every day and not planning to stop. so what corruption sucks. big whoop.

[Big Thanks]

That wasn’t the question you posed to me. Others have also answered you, so why should I repeat their answer to you?
Also, I refer back to the rest of my post that you ignored:

“Also, I’m really tired to this excuse of “keep people subbed.” If people are subbed to play the game, then waiting for a cycle of something to be available makes no difference as that person is still subbed regardless of waiting for a specific item to be available.”

Like i said...yet again...you are not defending Blizzard...you are attacking me like everyone else...

Non arguments.

[Great Destiny Man]

Then tell us "Why" is this timegate good and makes sense for the player...

I already gave you my reasoning in the original reply to you. Actually read what people are saying before you try to claim no-one has any counter arguments.

[FelPlague]

In this post you say why my argument makes no sense. Ok, fair enough

But you dont explain why the Blizzard's design makes sense though...why is this timagate "a thing".

why?

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Then tell us "Why" is this timegate good and makes sense for the player...

Please then, if we need to explain AGAIN why the corruption timegate should exist, i would love if you could defend all the timegates you just moments ago said were good time gates.


Professions- time gated
gathering- time gated
rare mobs- time gated
questing- time gated
leveling- time gated, why do you think its so slow to get around?
Molten core- time gated
ZG- time gated
Onyxia's lair- time gated
Blackwing lair- Time gated
AQ20- time gated
AQ40- time gated
Nax- Time gated
PVP rank- time gated
PVP holidays- time gated
holidays- time gated
Events- time gated
patch releases- time gated
world bosses- time gated
head hand in- time gated


Please explain why all these time gates were good. and before you cry "straw man straw man!" i said these, and you literally responded with "those were good time gates" so please, if you are going to ask us to explain why corruption vendor is a good time gate, you must then explain why the above are good time gates, so we can compare.


we already explained why the corruption vendors rotation is a "good time gate"
but you say its bad.
but the above stuff you also say is all good.
so please explain why all of those are good.

[Big Thanks]

Please then, if we need to explain AGAIN why the corruption timegate should exist, i would love if you could defend all the timegates you just moments ago said were good time gates.


Professions- time gated
gathering- time gated
rare mobs- time gated
questing- time gated
leveling- time gated, why do you think its so slow to get around?
Molten core- time gated
ZG- time gated
Onyxia's lair- time gated
Blackwing lair- Time gated
AQ20- time gated
AQ40- time gated
Nax- Time gated
PVP rank- time gated
PVP holidays- time gated
holidays- time gated
Events- time gated
patch releases- time gated
world bosses- time gated
head hand in- time gated


Please explain why all these time gates were good. and before you cry "straw man straw man!" i said these, and you literally responded with "those were good time gates" so please, if you are going to ask us to explain why corruption vendor is a good time gate, you must then explain why the above are good time gates, so we can compare.

Before i start answering i think is funny your argument now is "all timegates are bad, so why is this any different"

So...you are admitting timegates are bad? WHich is a bad start (>_<)

The only reason why "we" accept timegates like we accept them now is because Blizzard led us to believe is for a greater good.
Either a more enjoyable experience or for casual players to not be left behind against no lifers.

This must be documented via blue posts

This corruption timegate...on the other hand...would need a bit of clarification.

[Kallisto]

Before i start answering i think is funny your argument now is "all timegates are bad, so why is this any different"

So...you are admitting timegates are bad? WHich is a bad start (>_<)

They were quoting you, Dumbass. You were the one who said "ALL TIMEGATES ARE BAD." then you were shown all these other timegates and you suddenly changed your tune to "Some timegates are bad." because you were called out and shown to be a liar or so stupid you need to get off the internet and go back to school.

This isn't the first time, you've done this all over the forums that basically nobody believes a word you say.

But if you want to know why this TimeGate isn't bad here's one. Without it everyone on this forum would be rushing in saying how they HAVE to grind 100 visions in 1 day just so they can get their infinite stars Rank 3 because blizzard didn't put in gates to stop them. Much like how they cried about it with AP needing to be capped because "I'M FORCED TO SPEND ALL DAY ON ISLANDS OR BLIZZARD WILL SHOOT ME AT THE RAID INSTANCE REEEE!" posts.

[FelPlague]

Before i start answering i think is funny your argument now is "all timegates are bad, so why is this any different"

So...you are admitting timegates are bad? WHich is a bad start (>_<)

The only reason why "we" accept timegates like we accept them now is because Blizzard led us to believe is for a greater good.
Either a more enjoyable experience or for casual players to not be left behind against no lifers.

This must be documented via blue posts

This corruption timegate...on the other hand...would need a bit of clarification.

lol nice try, im not the one who said all timegates are bad, you did bucko.

Im trying to not get mad at petty things IRL and on the forums.

But i always get mad at "timegates for the sake of timegating and without another game design purpose"

And i think you will always see me mad about it on the future.

The real life comparison is not so strange...if you consider a "timegate" disrespects your real life time.
Its a total disrespect...thats why i get mad about it.

So...is a timegate for the sake of timegating and wasting your time?
Because thats what it looks like...

(i chose to fight this fight because i think this kind of timegates are a total disrespect to the people and a total disrespect to its players)

Then suddenly when we brought up the classic wow timegates you got all defensive of time gates.


i love to watch your little squirm here, constantly changing sides.

"Timegates are horrible they are a disrespect for our real life time"

Then "No those are all good time gates, for the good of the player!"

now back to "We only accept timegates cause blizz has led us to believe it is for the greater good"

Your starting to remind me of eleccy bub.

[Big Thanks]

They were quoting you, Dumbass. You were the one who said "ALL TIMEGATES ARE BAD." then you were shown all these other timegates and you suddenly changed your tune to "Some timegates are bad." because you were called out and shown to be a liar or so stupid you need to get off the internet and go back to school.

This isn't the first time, you've done this all over the forums that basically nobody believes a word you say.

But if you want to know why this TimeGate isn't bad here's one. Without it everyone on this forum would be rushing in saying how they HAVE to grind 100 visions in 1 day just so they can get their infinite stars Rank 3 because blizzard didn't put in gates to stop them. Much like how they cried about it with AP needing to be capped because "I'M FORCED TO SPEND ALL DAY ON ISLANDS OR BLIZZARD WILL SHOOT ME AT THE RAID INSTANCE REEEE!" posts.

Read again all my posts.

Im not "new" to MMO-C

I did not make the mistake of saying "all timegates are bad"

Because i knew this would possibly happen.

Read all my posts again...slowly.

SPOILERS: I said "timegates for the sake of timegating"
@FelPlague

As you can see...you are misquoting me

[Lolites]

so please explain why all of those are good.

you are banging your head against the wall of stupidity, thinking you will leave a dent in it...

[Great Destiny Man]

Before i start answering i think is funny your argument now is "all timegates are bad, so why is this any different"

So...you are admitting timegates are bad? WHich is a bad start (>_<)

Literally not what he's saying. Only point being made by Felpague is that time gates have been an intrinsic part of the game since the beginning. Stop drawing your own conclusions and stick to what's actually being said.

The only reason why "we" accept timegates like we accept them now is because Blizzard led us to believe is for a greater good.
Either a more enjoyable experience or for casual players to not be left behind against no lifers.

This must be documented via blue posts

This corruption timegate...on the other hand...would need a bit of clarification.

Timegates have always been about pacing, both for players benefit and for Blizzard's. The fact that there's benefits for Blizzard doesn't automatically make it a "scheme".

And like I pointed out to you already (which amusingly you've again neglected to even touch upon), pacing the purchasable corruption retains value for the corruption items obtained via RNG means.

[FelPlague]

Read again all my posts.

Im not "new" to MMO-C

I did not make the mistake of saying "all timegates are bad"

Because i knew this would possibly happen.

Read all my posts again...slowly.

SPOILERS: I said "timegates for the sake of timegating"
@FelPlague

As you can see...you are misquoting me

And again, who are you to decide what timegates are "timegates for the means of timegating" and "Timegates for the better of the player"

We asked you to explain why all those timegates are good timegates, while this one is not, but you refuse to, cause you cant. meanwhile we have already explained why it is a good timegate, many times.

[Lolites]

Morning

So struggled to make it to work this morning, Pulled up to get petrol but unfortunately it was on this weeks cycle, only Diesel & LPG were on the vendor this week. So as my car was stuck on the forecourt and i got a the bus to work, Everyone who needed Diesel and LPG were able to fill up and zoom away.

Why , what is the reason there is a cycle of Corruption, waiting 5 weeks for your own to come around :-0

unless your character somehow became unplayable without your bis corruption (which you obviously didnt have before and was still able to play), and i mean LITERALY unplayable, that you have to logout in champer until its available, this is the worst analogy ive ever heard...

[FelPlague]

Felpunk

Wow never heard that one, pretty good actually, i like it.

[Big Thanks]

meanwhile we have already explained why it is a good timegate, many times.

Ahahahah, no you didnt?

edit: YOU were the only one

[Great Destiny Man]

Wow never heard that one, pretty good actually, i like it.

Whoops, was having a senile moment

[FelPlague]

Ahahahah, no you didnt?

*Ahem*

it's only 4 weeks btw; 52 corruptions, 13 a week. and to be honest, I want mine to be the last that come out... because by then I will be able to get 2 or 3 rather than 1.

Why is it a thing?
1. hopefully to not overload the average player with massive choices
2. A way to add variety, and while manipulative, RNG excitment "Finally my thing is up!"
3. to keep corruptions still in somewhat of a check, they are buyyable now yes, but you cant get them right away

If full list of corruption pieces were on vendor it'd completely destroy the value of getting corruption through RNG (e.g. caches/visions) because then it just becomes a game of getting items with most optimal stats, purging them of corruptions (even if they're good) and reapplying BiS corruptions.

Given that I have a lot of shit corruption pieces from RNG it'd be nice if I could buy them all now but I appreciate why Blizzard have done it this way and considering they didn't even have to give us purchasable corruptions at all I'm happy being met halfway.

Also I know you're cynical of the game but try to be mature enough not to bundle people who have a different view point as being "part of the problem" ok champ

To avoid degenerate play

I am done here, im getting distracted when i should be working, plus this has gotten pathetic.

Actually as jester joe says, its the same as saying the Black Market Auction house is a timegate.

[Jester Joe]

You are only making a fool of yourself by presenting us with timegates THAT MAKE SENSE and are for the greater good of game design and for the players.

This one...makes no sense...and is for the greater good of no one.

This isn't a time gate.
It's as simple as that.

It's not preventing you from playing any content. It's not preventing you from accessing anything.
And hell, it's not the only source of Corruption.

Is it an arbitrary, kinda silly decision? Yes.

But it's not a time gate at all. It's not gating you out of anything.