An Update on BlizzCon - No BlizzCon This Year, Potentially Early 2021 Online Event

[FelPlague]

I'm not sure what you're on about. The CDC certainly does have thousands of years collectively studying disease and they themselves recanted and dropped the mortality rate they initially reported by 93%. Sorry, I don't think you'll be able to strawman that one buddy.

But I'm arguing with a dude who literally thinks governments have the people's best interest in mind and that they have never experimented on their own citizens so I guess I'm probably wasting my time.

1. yes the goverment has the peoples best intrest in mind, because by having their intrest in mind the country does better, although the goverment can prove to be against itself at times, working against the people

2. idk if you know, but numbers being artifically increased, and us being forced to stay home and get paid by the goverment... is not good for the goverment.
please if you think the goverment is trying to make the virus look worse then it really is... what is the benefit? They have to pay you to stay home? how is that good for the goverment

3. yes because the entire world has all agreed to work together to falsify this entire virus...

4. you got sources on any of this? i have yet to see a source on this number that you keep changing.

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Google it is a very valid response... again it took me a few seconds... not really sure how asking you to do the same makes me the "lazy" one. Of course, doing that would also put you in the embarrassing position of admitting you were wrong... which is what this is really about

except it aint, it is the person who wishes to present the evidence, to get the evidence, even if it is simple, plus that article is from 2009, we dont even know if it is still the case, as they havent spoken about it since then.

[ZazuuPriest]

4. you got sources on any of this? i have yet to see a source on this number that you keep changing.

Havent changed the number once, but ill break it down for you since youre obviously a fool. 3.4% initial, 0.26% updated mortality. 0.26 is 7% of 3.4 which is a 93% decrease.

if you google 0.26% CDC Covid you can easily find what you're looking for, except you're obviously not looking, and unwilling to.

[FelPlague]

Havent changed the number once, but ill break it down for you since youre obviously a fool. 3.4% initial, 0.26% updated mortality. 0.26 is 7% of 3.4 which is a 93% decrease.

if you google 0.26% CDC Covid you can easily find what you're looking for, except you're obviously not looking, and unwilling to.

"Break it down for you"
or link evidance like i asked.
link me evidance, im not going to go searching for your evidance.

btw having a low fatalty rate does not make something good.

did you know having your leg amputated in a hospital has a 0.01% fatality rate?
yeah so its fine right, lets all go do it!
no wait its a permant scar that will forever ruin your life.
just cause you survive covid does not mean you will be uneffected i myself have even more fucked up lungs then i did before.

[ZazuuPriest]

"Break it down for you"
or link evidance like i asked.
link me evidance, im not going to go searching for your evidance.

btw having a low fatalty rate does not make something good.

did you know having your leg amputated in a hospital has a 0.01% fatality rate?
yeah so its fine right, lets all go do it!
no wait its a permant scar that will forever ruin your life.
just cause you survive covid does not mean you will be uneffected i myself have even more fucked up lungs then i did before.

BTW never said COVID was good

But anyway directly from the CDC
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...scenarios.html

There is a lot of information on the page if you need me to come over and point to it for you in person I can do that for you. I assume people who are not also socialists can visit your home so long as the government says its ok

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That awkward moment when someone cites the CDC then links the source for you so you have to learn how to read real quick. I expect a witty retort in about a day or so about how all of the sudden statistics don't matter. Ill give you some time comrade

[Justpassing]

You guys know you're going to get nuked by the mods for making the thread about the virus and 'Murica? If we wanted to read this shit we'd be on a news site and/or offtopic politics.

[FelPlague]

BTW never said COVID was good

But anyway directly from the CDC
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...scenarios.html

There is a lot of information on the page if you need me to come over and point to it for you in person I can do that for you. I assume people who are not also socialists can visit your home so long as the government says its ok

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That awkward moment when someone cites the CDC then links the source for you so you have to learn how to read real quick. I expect a witty retort in about a day or so about how all of the sudden statistics don't matter. Ill give you some time comrade

so lets be clear.
1. that is best estimate, on what could go on, as is right now with 1,600,000 cases, and 100,000 deaths, that is a 1 in 16 people who get it die from it.
2. "oh its death rate is only 0.1%" Yeah but 100,000,000 people are infected- viruses can be dangerous in either
A. Low kill rate, but high infection rate, 1000 infected, 1% kill rate= 10 dead
B. high kill rate, low infection rate, 100 infected 10% kill rate= 10 dead

Corona seems to be A. it is spreading insanely quickly.

Statics do matter, and you fail to realize that they do.
also lol socialists?
you really are a piece of work.

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You guys know you're going to get nuked by the mods for making the thread about the virus and 'Murica? If we wanted to read this shit we'd be on a news site and/or offtopic politics.

i mean this thread is about the virus but good point, my last post on it, cause its kinda fucking sad. I hope murica survives, being so close to them if they kill themsleves off it will surely effect us.

[RoKPaNda]

Good for them for erring on the side of caution, and good on Disney too for requiring masks when they reopen. It's sad that some people aren't taking this seriously enough.

BTW never said COVID was good

But anyway directly from the CDC
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...scenarios.html

There is a lot of information on the page if you need me to come over and point to it for you in person I can do that for you. I assume people who are not also socialists can visit your home so long as the government says its ok

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That awkward moment when someone cites the CDC then links the source for you so you have to learn how to read real quick. I expect a witty retort in about a day or so about how all of the sudden statistics don't matter. Ill give you some time comrade

I followed your advice and googled what you told the other poster to google, not one credible news site is going with that. How odd. You know that no credible news outlets are running with that right? And that epidemiologists around the world are criticizing the CDC for that number and possibly buckling to political pressure yeah? You also do know that 5.9% of the confirmed infected in America have died right? 6% is a LOT higher than 0.26% FYI. Other countries around the world also have much higher numbers than .26% so .26% sure seems like a load of horseshit and it's no wonder that epidemiologists the world over and criticizing that "best" scenario from the CDC.

[Dr Assbandit]

This has nothing to do with conspiracy theory. Sure they are spreading like fungi right now and some are totally strange.
It is a hysteria, a global irrational panic (with some real cases and deaths). You would recognize it yourself, but since you are in panic too you are not able.

Or perhaps it could be that seeing as I'm an actual physician I can see when people are not only disregarding any and all medical advice but are actually trying to villanize them with the current conservative leadership and their followers.

[FelPlague]

Or perhaps it could be that seeing as I'm an actual physician I can see when people are not only disregarding any and all medical advice but are actually trying to villanize them with the current conservative leadership and their followers.

ey thanks for your work man, keep up the good work and stay safe.

[Drusin]

There's no disagreement to be had. COVID is a serious threat

Never said it wasn't

, it's not worth hosting a dumb video game convention with it looming over, end of.

Never said they should still host it.

That's definitely a comment people make when they know they have absolutely no leg to stand on.

I mean, if you want to go back and forth with me endlessly that's fine. Numbers aren't accurate, I didn't do the counting lol So unless some authority can say that all the deaths were due to covid complications and not other shit we are going to have to agree to disagree. Otherwise we'll be here forever.

Rambling about how the numbers for covid is wrong is an incredibly dangerous thing to do.

But they are wrong

And it's one of the leading reasons the USA now has over one hundred thousand deaths to the virus.

How do you know there's 100k deaths to the virus if the numbers are wrong?

[Dr Assbandit]

ey thanks for your work man, keep up the good work and stay safe.

Thanks mate <3.

Haven't been on the past few months due to work and also after this whole thing started I've started avoiding forums and social media for my own sanity.

[MrLachyG]

Google it is a very valid response... again it took me a few seconds... not really sure how asking you to do the same makes me the "lazy" one. Of course, doing that would also put you in the embarrassing position of admitting you were wrong... which is what this is really about

once again, YOU MADE THE CLAIM. BACK IT UP WITH EVIDENCE OTHER THAN "GOOGLE IT YOURSELF" OR BEGONE TROLL

i mean, is this the education standard in America these days? just saying random fucking shit without providing any proof? is this really all the best you have to offer?

[FelPlague]

Thanks mate <3.

Haven't been on the past few months due to work and also after this whole thing started I've started avoiding forums and social media for my own sanity.

Yeah i can imagine that, luckily i work from home (obviously) so this whole thing has me uneffected overall, but i always worry for those outside, especially those in the medical, my family doctor has been working himself to exhaustion, and my friends at morgues (2 of them, one of them is an artist part time) fill me in often about just how overloaded they are.

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once again, YOU MADE THE CLAIM. BACK IT UP WITH EVIDENCE OTHER THAN "GOOGLE IT YOURSELF" OR BEGONE TROLL

i mean, is this the education standard in America these days? just saying random fucking shit without providing any proof? is this really all the best you have to offer?

The anti vax, Flath earth, and #Plandemic movements all come from america, what do you think?

[Kallisto]

Yeah i can imagine that, luckily i work from home (obviously) so this whole thing has me uneffected overall, but i always worry for those outside, especially those in the medical, my family doctor has been working himself to exhaustion, and my friends at morgues (2 of them, one of them is an artist part time) fill me in often about just how overloaded they are.

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The anti vax, Flath earth, and #Plandemic movements all come from america, what do you think?

Eh as someone from the UK we're the ones that unfortunately started that one when the fucked up "doctor" did the whole mmr vaccine causes autism bullshit. (because he was peddling something else for financial gain). So sorry about that world.

[MrLachyG]

The anti vax, Flath earth, and #Plandemic movements all come from america, what do you think?

that's the thing though, even those people would link their sources. their sources would all be wrong, but they would still link them. apparently the person I replied to is able to find stuff instantly on google (which makes sense cause history is saved) but won't actually go the extra step of copying the link and pasting it into a forum post.

[jk1895]

Or perhaps it could be that seeing as I'm an actual physician I can see when people are not only disregarding any and all medical advice but are actually trying to villanize them with the current conservative leadership and their followers.

Hahaha oh boy...

I am Prof. Dr. Dr. at the most prestigious university in my country. And I'm telling you you're a bad doctor. You should think about changing careers. Car mechanic maybe.

Are you seriously saying that SARS CoV 2 is a killer virus? I'm sick of hearing it. Open your eyes!

[Raelbo]

I mean, if you want to go back and forth with me endlessly that's fine. Numbers aren't accurate, I didn't do the counting lol So unless some authority can say that all the deaths were due to covid complications and not other shit we are going to have to agree to disagree. Otherwise we'll be here forever.

Yes, numbers are never perfectly accurate. That doesn't mean that they aren't more than good enough for practical purposes.

But they are wrong

But that doesn't change the message. Therefore arguing about how they are wrong is dangerous because it deflects from the real issue.

I mean if we were discussing whether it's a good idea to jump off a third floor balcony, and your argument was that this has a 90% chance of fatality, me coming in and telling me numbers are not 100% accurate isn't helpful, because whether that number is 90%, or 80% or 74.3289% doesn't change the fact that jumping off a third floor balcony is a bad idea.

How do you know there's 100k deaths to the virus if the numbers are wrong?

What reason do you have to believe that they aren't close enough for practical purposes? If anything the numbers are probably lower than reality.

Here's an article from the NY Times a while back that looked at the death rate in the US and noted how that data suggests that Covid death numbers are actually being significantly under-reported.

[Dr Assbandit]

Hahaha oh boy...

I am Prof. Dr. Dr. at the most prestigious university in my country. And I'm telling you you're a bad doctor. You should think about changing careers. Car mechanic maybe.

Are you seriously saying that SARS CoV 2 is a killer virus? I'm sick of hearing it. Open your eyes!

Oh sweety, if you're going to try and want to be taken seriously maybe learn to properly string two sentences together without sounding like an idiot. Just a thought.

Also 102,000+ deaths in the U.S alone beg to differ. Thankfully more rational minds are at work and taking proper precautions rather than internet keyboard warriors like yourselves who peddle in conspiracy theories.

[Kuja]

so let me fill you in.
there has only been ONE blizzcon that had a virtual ticket, that gave mounts, so you have only bought 1 virtual ticket every and followed that up with "I stopped buyying virutal tickets when they stopepd doing mounts" so literally every year but 1.

out of 9 years of virtual blizzcons, 1 of those had a mount.

Yeah. The 2 mounts were from a single blizzcon. HS cardbacks and some wow pets have been the main reason I've attended virtually now that I think about it.

[Raelbo]

Oh sweety, if you're going to try and want to be taken seriously maybe learn to properly string two sentences together without sounding like an idiot. Just a thought.

I second that.

I have stopped responding to the guy because he's clearly just trying to antagonise people. I don't know if he has delusions of grandeur and genuinely believes he's smarter than everyone else, or if he has a specific agenda of wanting to cause as much harm and destruction as possible. Why he hasn't been banned from this site already is a mystery.

But yeah, the numbers are pretty staggering. Over 6% of people in the USA who have contracted the disease have died of it (and 10 times that number are still sick). And without preventative measures it's pretty clear that this is a virus that has the potential to infect an entire population. The pattern in every single country in the world has pretty much been the same - a doubling of infections every 2-5 days, until they implement emergency steps, at which point it slows down to manageable levels.

It's easy to see which countries have compliant and sensible citizens based on how their numbers look after plans are put into action and, unfortunately, people like this idiot just encourage the kind of behaviour that helps the virus flourish. Denial is going to be a significant contributor to how deadly this pandemic is going to be, and there are numerous examples around the world (including elements in my own country - this isn't me just pointing at other nations' failures) of people getting it wrong because they refuse to act responsibly for the pathetic reason that they don't want to be inconvenienced, and thus choose to believe whatever bullshit supports the narrative that they want to be true.

Going ahead with Blizzcon would have utterly irresponsible. And even though it sucks to see it scrapped from the calendar, this is literally a case of saving lives