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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    How's that boot taste, out of curiosity? If that isn't sufficiently damning for you, how about officers from the Minneapolis Pig Department arresting a reporter and his news crew on live television?
    Being on live television probably saved his life, too.

    Could see the stark fear in his body language as he was handcuffed and escorted away, for obvious reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PosPosPos View Post
    It really kinda beggars belief when people ask me "why are you so upset about this?"

    I dunno, Becky. Why am I upset over being unable to open the news without seeing someone getting lynched, or feeling that calling the police in a black person's vicinity might be setting them up for a death sentence?

    If it feels this bad to see all this bullshit and be white, I cannot imagine what it is like to live in this country as a person of colour. The thought depresses me beyond belief.
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    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    It really kinda beggars belief when people ask me "why are you so upset about this?"
    Isn't it obvious? Many people lack basic empathy, they believe that even if there's injustice in this world, it can't possibly happen to them or those they care about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    It really kinda beggars belief when people ask me "why are you so upset about this?"

    I dunno, Becky. Why am I upset over being unable to open the news without seeing someone getting lynched, or feeling that calling the police in a black person's vicinity might be setting them up for a death sentence?

    If it feels this bad to see all this bullshit and be white, I cannot imagine what it is like to live in this country as a person of colour. The thought depresses me beyond belief.
    I, as a non-white person generally avoid overly white areas. Like a 98% white town... yeah no thank you.

    When I consider moving often I consider what is the community like and would it even work for me. Often times no... nothing compared to New York metro area. At least very few places do and even here. Going to Long Island or west Chester? Nah... going up to alpine or any northern Bergen county town? Be prepared for profiling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PosPosPos View Post
    Isn't it obvious? Many people lack basic empathy, they believe that even if there's injustice in this world, it can't possibly happen to them or those they care about.
    If I were 40 IQ points dumber and a heterosexual I would be the happiest person on earth, from the sounds of it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    I dunno; you people profess to be the experts at revolution with all that Second Amendment garbage, you tell me what an acceptable level of civil disobedience looks like.



    There is that word again.

    What is it about this that you aren't getting? Using George Floyd's death as a point of moral comparison is a form of invalidation. You are reducing the human cost to a moral cudgel and outing yourself by making an issue of the property damage rather than the actual cause of the problem; police brutality, and racism.

    Here's a fun fact, Karen: your business being burned down is not the same as you being choked to death.

    I get that y'all seem to find that confusing given the whole "It's my right to have a haircut" bullshit, but you really need to check yourselves.
    You seem to have this idea that me saying two wrongs don't make a right means something it doesn't.
    Businesses who had no part in this. People who had no part in this shouldnt suffer because of a piece of shits actions.or the people angrily reacting to it.

    Imagine if the March on Washington wasn't peaceful and instead burnt shit down. Instead of boycotting the bus stations angry people burnt them and stole stuff.

    Both of those events and the people orcastrating it had every reason to be pissed yet they cared enough about the message to fix it instead of getting revenge.

    Let's fix the police. Let's work harder to eliminate racism but none of those happen if every time an injustice happens cities burn and innocent people suffer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    I, as a non-white person generally avoid overly white areas. Like a 98% white town... yeah no thank you.

    When I consider moving often I consider what is the community like and would it even work for me. Often times no... nothing compared to New York metro area. At least very few places do and even here. Going to Long Island or west Chester? Nah... going up to alpine or any northern Bergen county town? Be prepared for profiling.
    Girl, I'm white and I avoid overly white areas. Gives me Children of the Corn or Deliverance vibes.

    Then again I haven't lived in a city of fewer than a million people, so I think I'm fairly safe from being body snatched by my fellow colonizers.

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    Imagine if the March on Washington wasn't peaceful and instead burnt shit down. Instead of boycotting the bus stations angry people burnt them and stole stuff.
    The women's march? Imagine if that were a riot?

    Oh, honey. You're making me wet...
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Girl, I'm white and I avoid overly white areas. Gives me Children of the Corn or Deliverance vibes.

    Then again I haven't lived in a city of fewer than a million people, so I think I'm fairly safe from being body snatched by my fellow colonizers.

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    The women's march? Imagine if that were a riot?

    Oh, honey. You're making me wet...
    The March on Washington August 28 1963. Imagine how much that would've set back civil rights

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    If I were 40 IQ points dumber and a heterosexual I would be the happiest person on earth, from the sounds of it.
    You mean EQ, but yeah I get your point. I did a short stint volunteering at an orphan's home for those with special needs(majority were with down's syndrome and the like), and I have seen more consideration, thoughtfulness and empathy coming from any single one of those kids than all the far-right sociopaths I have encountered so far put together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenlo View Post
    The March on Washington August 28 1963. Imagine how much that would've set back civil rights
    Not really, judging from how America's civil war went, pretty sure it would have resulted in positive change.

    See, I rely on history, rather than nonsensical "if I don't resist, my aggressors will suddenly see the light" delusions to make myself feel better and little else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenlo View Post
    How many people need to be outraged over an injustice to be immune to prosecution? If my wife cheats on me may I burn my neighborhood down?

    George Floyd's death was unnecessary and cruel and the cops responsible should be stripped of office and thrown in jail for life. But what about all the people's whose lives are ruined now? Don't they get anything for having their businesses destroyed?
    You mean the rich fucks who own those big businesses? Yeah, I doubt many people care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PosPosPos View Post
    You mean EQ, but yeah I get your point. I did a short stint volunteering at an orphan's home for those with special needs(majority were with down's syndrome and the like), and I have seen more consideration, thoughtfulness and empathy coming from any single one of those kids than all the far-right sociopaths I have encountered so far put together.

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    Not really, judging from how America's civil war went, pretty sure it would have resulted in positive change.

    See, I rely on history, rather than nonsensical "if I don't resist, my aggressors will suddenly see the light" delusions to make myself feel better and little else.
    Yeah... like I don’t think he realises that MlK was ASSASSINATED

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Girl, I'm white and I avoid overly white areas. Gives me Children of the Corn or Deliverance vibes.

    Then again I haven't lived in a city of fewer than a million people, so I think I'm fairly safe from being body snatched by my fellow colonizers.

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    The women's march? Imagine if that were a riot?

    Oh, honey. You're making me wet...
    ... the way you talk and act on these forums is nothing short of black caricature.

    you're white becky, stop trying to rachel dolezal yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenlo View Post
    The March on Washington August 28 1963. Imagine how much that would've set back civil rights
    You mean the one led by the same MLK jr that was hated by most whites during his life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    I, as a non-white person generally avoid overly white areas. Like a 98% white town... yeah no thank you.

    When I consider moving often I consider what is the community like and would it even work for me. Often times no... nothing compared to New York metro area. At least very few places do and even here. Going to Long Island or west Chester? Nah... going up to alpine or any northern Bergen county town? Be prepared for profiling.
    A black man in Alpine?! May as well just cuff yourself upon entrance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PosPosPos View Post
    You mean EQ, but yeah I get your point. I did a short stint volunteering at an orphan's home for those with special needs(majority were with down's syndrome and the like), and I have seen more consideration, thoughtfulness and empathy coming from any single one of those kids than all the far-right sociopaths I have encountered so far put together.

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    Not really, judging from how America's civil war went, pretty sure it would have resulted in positive change.

    See, I rely on history, rather than nonsensical "if I don't resist, my aggressors will suddenly see the light" delusions to make myself feel better and little else.
    How so? Information didn't travel as well and it was harder to fact check back then. The narrative could have easily been MLK and his Hooligans sack the capital and the message of equality and rights could have been lost.

    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    Yeah... like I don’t think he realises that MlK was ASSASSINATED
    You're right now sure how that's relevant but yup
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenlo View Post
    The March on Washington August 28 1963.
    Oh, honey. You're making me even wetter.

    Also get the fuck out of here with that "MLK would be disappointed in you" nonsense, that's just more model minority fallacy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Oh, honey. You're making me even wetter.

    Also get the fuck out of here with that "MLK would be disappointed in you" nonsense, that's just more model minority fallacy.
    I'm not talking about how MLK would react. I'm saying if his nonviolent protests turned into what happened in Minneapolis it could have been bad for the movement and we set civil rights back

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    MLK jr was a socialist who was hated in his time, and would still be if he where active today. White Americans hate socialism and they would still blame him for any riot that would happen.


    I need to look op some old anti-MLK political cartoons. How little has changed is just amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathandira View Post
    A black man in Alpine?! May as well just cuff yourself upon entrance.
    Lol, yes... I know. I mean I am a mixed Afro Latino I can start speaking Spanish pretend to be a nanny on my way to work. I am gay. Gay male nanny totally flies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenlo View Post
    I'm not talking about how MLK would react. I'm saying if his nonviolent protests turned into what happened in Minneapolis it could have been bad for the movement and we set civil rights back
    And you're probably wrong because, as said, if it was a legitimate insurrection chances are the confederates would lose a second time, based on their previous track record.

    Please don't start bullshit hypothetical arguments you can't win.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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