Another "I can't breath" death: Police Reform & Protests in the USA

[PACOX]

what complete crap. People possibly dying or losing everything to violent protesters is acceptable as me calling the violent protesters animals now? I mean you tout some kind of higher authority on this but you lose it on just assuming all these protesters are the same color, and call other people racist?

Using 'ape' in a discussion very near and dear to black people. You knew exactly what you were doing.

[Gestopft]

And?

There are people who cheer kittens being drowned. Welcome to the world people suck.

Let’s keep those goalposts on the field, maybe?

[NED funded]

You cannot possibly be more dramatic, can you? Nothing else matters, just this?
Right... What was that stereotype about American maximalism?

Ive said this earlier but the people cheering on the looting have zero stake on the matter. Its not their livelihood that is being ruined here. Heck the poster is probably comfortably seating in his gaming chair rn

[Trassk]

Ask the cops. They are the one that murdered a innocent.

Yeah, a murdering cop killed an innocent man, your system is f**ked for allowing something like this to carry on.
Doesn't give justification for more assholes to destroy peoples lives making things worse for them then it already was. And it won't change the broken system for the better.

[rrayy]

Youre 100% wrong that it does not matter why a crime was committed. That's why context, intent, and motive are important in trials.

Wrong. Looting and rioting don't require intent. you break and window and loot a store, that is a crime regardless of why you did it. Ditto for enciting a riot. Go down to one of your local stores and burn it down. THen try to tellt he cops you did it because you were protesting oppression. I guarantee you that the cops aren't going to tell you "OK you did noting wrong carry on. They are going to throw you in jail. It does not matter why those types of crimes were committed. Those are crimes. Period.

[Orange Joe]

Yeah, a murdering cop killed an innocent man, your system is f**ked for allowing something like this to carry on.
Doesn't give justification for more assholes to destroy peoples lives making things worse for them then it already was. And it won't change the broken system for the better.

Again peaceful protesting didn't work so what do you suggest? For the "apes" to just sit there and take it?

[Shadowferal]

Ive said this earlier but the people cheering on the looting have zero stake on the matter. Its not their livelihood that is being ruined here. Heck the poster is probably comfortably seating in his gaming chair rn

Yup.
They want other people to get their lives ruined...take one for the team...while they're cheering safely at home.

[Laughingjack]

Let’s keep those goalposts on the field, maybe?

If you want im watching them burn down CNN. Turns out even the rioters hate cnn reporters.

[Trassk]

Using 'ape' in a discussion very near and dear to black people. You knew exactly what you were doing.

clearly you've never been to england around pubs on a friday night, where the majority are white punters coming out bladdered like chimps at a zoo, trust me, skin color matters for shit in the face of how they act. People are people, it doesn't matter their skin color, only their behavior. But instead of thinking how I'm referring to the violent behavior of these protesters, who are a mix of different people, you decided to believe they are all black people protesting. Sorry buddy, you don't get to call someone else out as racist when the context goes against it.

[Orange Joe]

clearly you've never been to england around pubs on a friday night, where the majority are white punters coming out bladdered like chimps at a zoo, trust me, skin color matters for shit in the face of how they act. People are people, it doesn't matter their skin color, only their behavior. But instead of thinking how I'm referring to the violent behavior of these protesters, who are a mix of different people, you decided to believe they are all black people protesting. Sorry buddy, you don't get to call someone else out as racist when the context goes against it.

Humans are much more violent than apes. So why call them apes?

[Underverse]

Again peaceful protesting didn't work so what do you suggest? For the "apes" to just sit there and take it?

This perspective feels off target.

Peaceful protesting didn't work for what? Police brutality in general or racially motivated police killings? Do we have data showing a change or lack thereof for police killings over time, and how that change affects different racial groups? Because not too long ago the data suggested that black people are not disproportionately killed by police. Are they now killed more often?

Is destroying and looting business a method of non-peaceful protest? Is this expected to 'work' where peaceful protesting has not? That seems unlikely to me. If anything, it just gives an excuse to conservatives like my uncle who can now look down their noses at the animals prying open cash registers at target in solidarity with their fallen brother.

[Trassk]

Again peaceful protesting didn't work so what do you suggest? For the "apes" to just sit there and take it?

when they started attacking peoples homes and livelihoods they stopped being anyone worth defending. If they were people with intent to change the system, they would attack places they caused this, like a police precinct, but instead they attacked easy targets.

[rrayy]

when they started attacking peoples homes and livelihoods they stopped being anyone worth defending. If they were people with intent to change the system, they would attack places they caused this, like a police precinct, but instead they attacked easy targets.

They did attack a police precinct and that was also wrong. Looting and causing damage is wrong. Period.

[Trassk]

Humans are much more violent than apes. So why call them apes?

Because the violent nature of their attacks has no rational basis when they burn down homes and shops that have nothing to do with it. Is it seriously more important for you to get offended at calling violent people animal like then actually what they are doing themselves?

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They did attack a police precinct and that was also wrong. Looting and causing damage is wrong. Period.

I didn't even know that part, as batshit as it is thats like the only thing I could say has reason to in their approach, even though its not rational at all to do so, since it was the police that sparked this off. But again, none of this is rational behavior so nothing should be given credence.

[Orange Joe]

when they started attacking peoples homes and livelihoods they stopped being anyone worth defending. If they were people with intent to change the system, they would attack places they caused this, like a police precinct, but instead they attacked easy targets.

This goes both ways. When they started killing innocents they stopped being people to care about.

[Trassk]

This goes both ways. When they started killing innocents they stopped being people to care about.

who, the police or the protesters?

[Orange Joe]

This perspective feels off target.

Peaceful protesting didn't work for what? Police brutality in general or racially motivated police killings? Do we have data showing a change or lack thereof for police killings over time, and how that change affects different racial groups? Because not too long ago the data suggested that black people are not disproportionately killed by police. Are they now killed more often?

Is destroying and looting business a method of non-peaceful protest? Is this expected to 'work' where peaceful protesting has not? That seems unlikely to me. If anything, it just gives an excuse to conservatives like my uncle who can now look down their noses at the animals prying open cash registers at target in solidarity with their fallen brother.

Black people are still killed by police at a disportional rate.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...olice-by-race/

Black people make up 12% of the population

So far in 2020 41 white people were killed to 31 black Does that seem right to you for a people that make up only 12% of population.

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who, the police or the protesters?

Police and anyone who defends this bullshit. Didn't think that was hard to figure out.

[anveena]

Black people are still killed by police at a disportional rate.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...olice-by-race/

Black people make up 12% of the population

So far in 2020 41 white people were killed to 31 black Does that seem right to you for a people that make up only 12% of population.

Seems right when you look up the crime rates.

[Trassk]

Police and anyone who defends this bullshit. Didn't think that was hard to figure out.

yes well done, violent police killing people is a big issue you have there. People being just as violent back however won't solve anything. If anything it will just make it worse and create a spiral of violence between people and the police.

You have bigger problems in your country then just these two things, the entire system in america just fails itself.

[Orange Joe]

Seems right when you look up the crime rates.

Yeah cause there has never been a history of black people being dis-proportionally punished compared to white people either.....

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yes well done, violent police killing people is a big issue you have there. People being just as violent back however won't solve anything. If anything it will just make it worse and create a spiral of violence between people and the police.

You have bigger problems in your country then just these two things, the entire system in america just fails itself.

You say nothing will change. So far it went from police won't be charged to the main guy being arrested.

Just because YOU don't want to listen doesn't mean others won't.