Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Doffen]

Blood elves are our high elves. In fact, they are our main high elven society in the WoW universe. Sorry that this fact upsets you?

Whether void elves are former blood elves or high elves doesn't really matter. The point I was making was that not even 2 weeks ago several posters in this thread argued against things that they now are backing.

So far as the high elf race goes, there are three variants of the race being represented in game (blood elves, void elves, high elves), with blood elves being the main representation of the high elf race in WoW. Hence, blood elves are our high elves. It's quite simple.

Nice headcanon.

No, it does not upset me, but it must trigger you that what you say is not true, and all the thalassian elves are in fact High Elves. It triggers you so much that you put a non canon citation in your sig just to try to make people who actually know the story to feel bad. It's just embarrassing.

[scubi666stacy]

High Elf fans turn even more disgusting with every thing Blizzard gives to them. You already got so much, shut up and enjoy you rip-offs.

[elbleuet]

void elves with blood/high elf skin color is happening, blood/high elves changing to become void elf is happening, thats excellent, but lets not pretend they are just high elves with shadow-priest like powers, and asking the entirety of blood elves thing, like paladins, their hairstyle and changing their racials is completely nonsensical.

But they are. We will just play the second generation of void elves aka Silvermoon and exiled elves mastering the void.
Btw I'm not asking any blood elf customizations. I will happily play my blue haired, fair skinned High elf.

Let the Horde keep their blond blood elves.

[matrix123mko]

Now as we have high elves in the Alliance, can blood elves finally stop being light elves?

[FlubberPuddy]

But they are. We will just play the second generation of void elves aka Silvermoon and exiled elves mastering the void.
Btw I'm not asking any blood elf customizations. I will happily play my blue haired, fair skinned High elf.

Let the Horde keep their blond blood elves.

Agreed, I'm ok not having blonde as a color (I just don't see an issue if it happens as well). blue/black/white/silver hair color options are what I'm hopeful for.

[elbleuet]

Agreed, I'm ok not having blonde as a color (I just don't see an issue if it happens as well). blue/black/white/silver hair color options are what I'm hopeful for.

White haired high elf would be glorious

[shoc]

Now as we have high elves in the Alliance, can blood elves finally stop being light elves?

Blood Elves having golden eyes is basically the only meaningful, unique lore they have left. It's the story of their liberation from Fel corruption and return to grace.

[matrix123mko]

Blood Elves having golden eyes is basically the only meaningful, unique lore they have left. It's the story of their liberation from Fel corruption and return to grace.

It is not unique, as Alliance has two races completely based on Light. Moreover, blood elves needed no liberation from any corruption and Alliance's grace is meaningless.

[Aldo Hawk]

Now as we have high elves in the Alliance, can blood elves finally stop being light elves?

Yes please, I can't wait for the Blood elves to loose the Sunwell again so they go back at not being boring normie copypasta fantasy elfy elves and bring life to the concept of Blood elves that existed in TbC again.

It was just better, but Blizzard simply has a weird fetish with 'redemption' stories...

[matrix123mko]

Yes please, I can't wait for the Blood elves to loose the Sunwell again so they go back at not being boring normie copypasta fantasy elfy elves and bring life to the concept of Blood elves that existed in TbC again.

It was just better, but Blizzard simply has a weird fetish with 'redemption' stories...

They think redemptions are the only way to make an edgy character. Their attitude is "kill someone and confess to a priest".

[Ardenaso]

Yes please, I can't wait for the Blood elves to loose the Sunwell again so they go back at not being boring normie copypasta fantasy elfy elves and bring life to the concept of Blood elves that existed in TbC again.

It was just better, but Blizzard simply has a weird fetish with 'redemption' stories...

It is not unique, as Alliance has two races completely based on Light. Moreover, blood elves needed no liberation from any corruption and Alliance's grace is meaningless.

True. The Blood Elves were still true to themselves when they were still magic junkies, it gave them the Horde's true character: edgy outcast with morally grey theme

[matrix123mko]

True. The Blood Elves were still true to themselves when they were still magic junkies, it gave them the Horde's true character: edgy outcast with morally grey theme

I think BC era blood elves were closer to original highborne and Anasterian's Quel'thalas than this new abomination with Lightwell.

[elbleuet]

Blood elves were sooo interesting back in TBC until that shitty redemption story.

Now they have only become long eared humans absolutely loving the Horde for no reasons.

I really miss them. It seems Void elves replaced them.

[FlubberPuddy]

You do know that the sole reason pro-high-elf supporters have been giving those suggestions, was to try to appease the anti-high-elfers who would constantly harp on this "you just want the blood elf model" nonsense.

Something the antis seem to forget about very often.

Honestly I feel most of the reason for those who are upset or harping on 'MuH bLoOd elF UNiqUeness' is because the suggestions people made for Alliance High Elves were probably wanted by them for Blood Elves and Blood Elves only. So they could keep memeing the 'blood elves are high elves'/'horde is waiting for you' phrases.

Also I and others did keep saying that the request was maintaining its momentum because anti-s couldn't help but keep trying to argue against it.

The same thing occurred when people organized to make Artifact Weapon cosmetic unlocks stay permanent whereas Blizzard initially was going to lock ALL the looks of em away. Threads upon threads fighting for the unlocks to stay were had, with a consistent group of dissenters.

Then Blizzard made a GOOD compromise by limiting only the Mage Tower skins.

Same thing in essence happened here, arguing for High Elves in an organized fashion with a consistent group of dissenters and Blizzard giving a GOOD compromise (not ideal) with blue eyes to both and human skin tones (or high elf I should say ) to Void Elves.

[DeicideUH]

Something the antis seem to forget about very often.

Honestly I feel most of the reason for those who are upset or harping on 'MuH bLoOd elF UNiqUeness' is because the suggestions people made for Alliance High Elves were probably wanted by them for Blood Elves and Blood Elves only. So they could keep memeing the 'blood elves are high elves'/'horde is waiting for you' phrases.

Also I and others did keep saying that the request was maintaining its momentum because anti-s couldn't help but keep trying to argue against it.

The same thing occurred when people organized to make Artifact Weapon cosmetic unlocks stay permanent whereas Blizzard initially was going to lock ALL the looks of em away. Threads upon threads fighting for the unlocks to stay were had, with a consistent group of dissenters.

Then Blizzard made a GOOD compromise by limiting only the Mage Tower skins.

Same thing in essence happened here, arguing for High Elves in an organized fashion with a consistent group of dissenters and Blizzard giving a GOOD compromise (not ideal) with blue eyes to both and human skin tones (or high elf I should say ) to Void Elves.

One of the things that I tried to suggest way back in 2018 was to give void elves "somewhat normal skins". Even made a few mockups:





The answer I was given is that it intruded too much into blood elf aesthetics.

Now we got actual blood elf skins. Of all tones.
In a way, by being too stubborn to make concessions, they ended up with a situation that they "lost" even more. But hey, they got blue eyes, wasn't that what they wanted?

[Powerogue]

Essentially.
I guess nightborne will soon get a night elf model.

As a nightborne I'd want slinted eyes, more hair/jewelry styles, and removed chin plate on the female heritage armor. If I wanted to push it, additional Suramar npc-themed clothing sets available from the nightfallen reputation vendor and an option to look slightly withered like Thalyssra pre-magic fruit.

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One of the things that I tried to suggest way back in 2018 was to give void elves "somewhat normal skins". Even made a few mockups:

The answer I was given is that it intruded too much into blood elf aesthetics.

Now we got actual blood elf skins. Of all tones.
In a way, by being too stubborn to make concessions, they ended up with a situation that they "lost" even more. But hey, they got blue eyes, wasn't that what they wanted?

I actually like those mockups of slightly tinted skin more than the ones with the voidy arms and legs. Great work.

[Alixie]

Well congratulations upon stealing our looks. I am glad you’re so happy with it, but can’t see why I’m upset about it.

"Beautiful, Nordic looking elves should be Horde only." Did I guess correctly?

[Sigxy]

Yes please, I can't wait for the Blood elves to loose the Sunwell again so they go back at not being boring normie copypasta fantasy elfy elves and bring life to the concept of Blood elves that existed in TbC again.

It was just better, but Blizzard simply has a weird fetish with 'redemption' stories...

I want Blood Elves to become a race that values 'vengeance' again (Things you hear when you click on NPCs) and not being the 'nice guys'. They're not evil, you won't see them willingly go start wars as they just want to protect their own people - but if you mess with them? They'll send a Blood Knight at you: https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets...jpg?1503115893

Never forget that the "True Masters of the Light" burnt down the chapel where the Silver Hand was formed, even if Blizzard seem to have forgotten that part!

[Yarathir]

Oh yeah silly me, void elves women have two hairstyle options that I always get confused. I see now.

No worries. I made the exact same mistake.

[Syegfryed]

No, but they joined the Horde, and were just as much a "never an iconic race" of the Horde, only showing up here and there to help, just like the high elves.

but the high elves joined the horde in tbc, under another name

you entirely moved goalposts about HE being a iconic race of the alliance in the majority of wow to say they were not iconic but should be a thing anyway

No, that's false.

since most of the spammers died out when they announced the skin colors, and now others are demanding the entirety of the blood elf options, it is very safe to assume isn't false.

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But they are. We will just play the second generation of void elves aka Silvermoon and exiled elves mastering the void.

they are not high elves just using the void, they are blood/high elves mutaded by the void, it is the base of the entire race and how they got different racials, a different racial set in stone as a fact that they are not the same race anymore

Btw I'm not asking any blood elf customizations. I will happily play my blue haired, fair skinned High elf.

maybe not you, but there is topics asking exactly that, a lot of people is asking, all blood elf customization plus their classes like paladin, and lore be dammed, and im saying that is a bit too much, and they should at least keep a minimum amount of difference and uniqueness especially when blood elves aren't getting nothing from void elves in this exchange