Mega-Thread: Coronavirus Pandemic

[Shadowferal]

Not a lot of social distancing here.

[Elegiac]

Not a lot of social distancing here.

What's your point?

[Deja Thoris]

Resorting to ad hominem attacks means that you realize you're wrong and have no valid argument.

What I said, was true. Look at where countries are that under reacted. Russia and Brazil. They are both on a massively upward trajectory. Those are called facts. Like I said, you don't do facts do you?

You're wrong. It's ok to admit it. Although it takes self awareness and maturity so I won't hold my breath.

[Elegiac]

I don't know man. Is there a reason?
Are all those people protesting gonna respread covid throughout the country?
Are they actively causing deaths?

Yep, probably.

Which is an incredibly damning indictment of the issue that necessitates this sort of action during a pandemic.

[Cynep]

That COVID would not have been as virulent in the US as it has been without a fucking abysmal government response to it, which is one of the things being protested?

"But how can a plague have anything to do with racism?" you might say.

Simple: by virtue of their poverty rates, black and latinx people are more likely to be exposed to COVID and less likely to have the resources to either prevent being infected, transmitting it, or getting medical attention to treat it.

I know and I agree. I don't disagree that problems exist. I said there was much fearmongering, and now is little fearmongering. I'm not arguing anything else.

I've been participant in this thread since it was started so....done? Your position remains full of shit, so you might wanna correct that with something more substantial than 'people have been saying'.

Christ and Allah it's like talking to a prerevolutionary artistocrat woman in Versailles. "On dit..."

I have witnessed society collapse twice. Once as a teenager, when USSR broke up and my industrial city had its supply chains cut off, among many others my father became unemployed and never really recovered. Criminal "mafia" ruled the city for decades. Then again as a grown family man, when in 2014 morons seceded from Ukraine, started the war, and again all industry stopped, half the city was unemployed for half a year. Donetsk will never ever recover as top tier industrial center.

So, no offense, but actually I see you as a "prerevolutionary artistocrat woman in Versailles", or maybe a champagne socialist. From my point of view, you haven't seen bad things firsthand, I have.

[Elegiac]

I know and I agree. I don't disagree that problems exist. I said there was much fearmongering, and now is little fearmongering. I'm not arguing anything else.

So, just being needlessly contrarian then? Good to know.

I have witnessed society collapse twice. Once as a teenager, when USSR broke up and my industrial city had its supply chains cut off, among many others my father became unemployed and never really recovered. Criminal "mafia" ruled the city for decades. Then again as a grown family man, when in 2014 morons seceded from Ukraine, started the war, and again all industry stopped, half the city was unemployed for half a year. Donetsk will never ever recover as top tier industrial center.

Yeah, and?

I've explained in many other threads how European sociopolitical experiences aren't a good analogue for American ones because the latter is bound up in so much racial animus, to the point it overrides class.

So, no offense, but actually I see you as a "prerevolutionary artistocrat woman in Versailles", or maybe a champagne socialist. From my point of view, you haven't seen bad things firsthand, I have.

Champagne socialist and proud, baby. Though I have nothing but respect for my grandparents for their actions in the Greek Civil War even if they did end up losing.

Could be worse, though. At least I'm not a racist.

[Cynep]

I've been participant in this thread since it was started so....done? Your position remains full of shit, so you might wanna correct that with something more substantial than 'people have been saying'.

What do you mean by that? Scroll up and read. People have indeed been saying. Read for yourself.

[Shadowferal]

What's your point?

That which I already pointed out; the virus has become not so much relevant to protestors.

[PhaelixWW]

What do you mean by that? Scroll up and read. People have indeed been saying. Read for yourself.

You're attempting to repaint a demand for others to take the situation seriously as "freaking out" and "zomg, the sky is falling".

That's absolute, 100%, hyperbolic horseshit.

[stevenho]

Yep, probably.

Which is an incredibly damning indictment of the issue that necessitates this sort of action during a pandemic.

So they are protesting a death and causing more deaths in the process.
Not smart, are they.

[Elegiac]

That which I already pointed out; the virus has become not so much relevant to protestors.

No, that's your opinion.

The only thing which can be inferred is "this issue ranks more highly than COVID" for them.

Which is only noteworthy if one thinks that the protests are happening for a trivial reason, or that COVID was overblown. Neither of which are particularly flattering commentaries on the people who hold such beliefs (the word "chud" comes to mind).

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So they are protesting a death

Thanks for admitting you haven't been paying attention to the protests.

[Cynep]

So, just being needlessly contrarian then? Good to know.

I stated a simple demonstrable fact: Covid fearmongering stopped strongly weakened nearly a week ago. That was all. We can agree why it happened: a more important topic came up in USA. Apparently, due to how your politics work, Covid was deemed irrelevant now. Why are you attacking me?

Yeah, and?

Champagne socialist and proud, baby.

Okay then. Not much to add to that.

[PhaelixWW]

I stated a simple demonstrable fact: Covid fearmongering stopped nearly a week ago. That was all. We can agree why it happened: a more important topic came up in USA. Apparently, due to how your politics work, Covid was deemed irrelevant now. Why are you attacking me?

We're attacking your logic, which is atrocious.

First, the "fearmongering" you're claiming didn't happen, which means that nothing stopped.

Second, while you might be able to say that the protestors deem COVID less important than the protest, you can't claim that they think it's "irrelevant", let alone use that tiny percent of the whole population to extrapolate a generalization about everyone.

You're making shit up and abusing logic to fit your agenda, which is wrong and will be called out.

[Cynep]

Second, while you might be able to say that the protestors deem COVID less important than the protest, you can't claim that they think it's "irrelevant", let alone use that tiny percent of the whole population to extrapolate a generalization about everyone.

You're making shit up and abusing logic to fit your agenda, which is wrong and will be called out.

No. This thread died down when protests started. If stevenho didn't provoke people, it would've stayed dead, I couldn't do it with my Qatar post.

This thread nearly died. Meaning this topic was not worth discussing, aka irrelevant. If both "can't breath" and Covid threads were active, you would've been correct, both would've been important, even though one more than another. It didn't happen, this thread nearly died.

[Elegiac]

No. This thread died down when protests started. If stevenho didn't provoke people, it would've stayed dead, I couldn't do it with my Qatar post.

This thread nearly died. Meaning this topic was not worth discussing, aka irrelevant. If both "can't breath" and Covid threads were active, you would've been correct, both would've been important, even though one more than another. It didn't happen, this thread nearly died.

Boo hoo. People weren't as active in a thread on a Gen-OT section of a website primarily populated by Russian and Chinese bots with Twitch accounts. Again, what exactly is the point that think you are making?

"Ha ha, now that another issue has captured media attention it proves me right about how this situation was just overblown!" Is that it? Sorry to say but, no, all you've really discovered is the already widely known fact that media cycles tend to be bad at multitasking.

Christ and Allah.

[PhaelixWW]

This thread nearly died. Meaning this topic was not worth discussing, aka irrelevant.

What the ACTUAL fuck?

If people are talking, then you deem it "fearmongering". If people aren't talking, then you claim that they think it's "irrelevant".

What fucking world do you inhabit? Because it's not reality.

[stevenho]

Boo hoo. People weren't as active in a thread on a Gen-OT section of a website primarily populated by Russian and Chinese bots with Twitch accounts.

Boldly said.

[Shadowferal]

Bullshit. Notice the masks. We’re just willing to risk getting sick to protest a bigger issue.

Oh "We" are are we?
You go on right ahead!

[Granyala]

Boo hoo. People weren't as active in a thread on a Gen-OT section of a website primarily populated by Russian and Chinese bots with Twitch accounts.

Damn, I'm a pretty lousy bot then.
I can't speak either Russian or Chinese. ._.

[Tuor]

I am surprised @Gaidax didn't posted this here.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/initia...vid-19-report/

The results of the first serological tests done in Israel indicate that the total number of infected people could have hited 200k people, well above the number of active cases diagnosed.
There are only 2 explanations for this, or there was a previous coronavirus circulating that triggered imunity, or, my favorite, the number of assinptomatic people is abnormaly high. If the thesis of the assimptomatic people is proved, this means that covid-19 migh have a mortality rate not much above the flu, in the range of 0.5%.