Another "I can't breath" death: Police Reform & Protests in the USA

[Pannonian]

You won't hear any outrage over that from the national media.

Funnily, just now it popped up as the top headline in the biggest austrian newssite halfway across the globe:

https://www.krone.at/2165882

But the msm doesn't care. poor victim...

and CNN: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/03/u...rnd/index.html

not enough outrage?

[Benggaul]

You won't hear any outrage over that from the national media.

"I am too lazy to fact check before making blanket statements that, it turns out, are easily proven false..."

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/03/u...rnd/index.html

[Endus]

You won't hear any outrage over that from the national media.

Maybe even just google it before opening your mouth, next time;

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/03/us/da...rnd/index.html
https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/z...ve-on-facebook
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...liveBlogHeader
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/david-d...e-floyd-death/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...st/3133037001/

[rrayy]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/use-of...e-investigated

DC National Guard under investigation for violating the Geneva Conventions and using a medical helicopter to fly dangerously low in an attempt to use the downdraft and noise to disperse protesters.

FUnny I don't see one mention of Geneva Conventions or violations of it in the entire article. It just says an investigation. Nice mirepresnetation.

[Pannonian]

And found that from a news site here in Australia.. And it is a shame that it will probably be that way..

there have been enough links to us news-sites, but here again: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/03/u...rnd/index.html

you can of course refute your claim.

[rrayy]

"I am too lazy to fact check before making blanket statements that, it turns out, are easily proven false..."

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/03/u...rnd/index.html

You missed the key word "outrage". That is simply a news report. SHow me in that artice where a CNN commentator is quoated as being outraged over it.

You might want to read entire post first before blindly running off to attempt a "gotcha" moment.

EDIT: IN fact, the one quote tit does have is from a far left filmakeer who bashed teh PResdent for paying his condolences to the Captain:

Trump's tweet was not universally welcomed. Filmmaker Ava DuVernay tweeted in response: "We won't let you use this Black man for your political gain. You can try. But we will not let it happen. May he rest in peace. May the truth about his murderers come to light. And may he not have his name dragged into your vicious, evil games. "

[Grapemask]

FUnny I don't see one mention of Geneva Conventions or violations of it in the entire article. It just says an investigation. Nice mirepresnetation.

This is the source article that this article linked to. I know your only goal is to post in bad faith, but can you at least troll with a little more gumption.

"Misuse of the Red Cross symbol is prohibited even during peacetime by the First Geneva Convention, to which the U.S. is a party,” said Rachel E. VanLandingham, a former Air Force attorney and professor at the Southwestern Law School in Los Angeles.

Linking the symbol with law enforcement, VanLandingham said, can weaken its “effectiveness as signifying medical and humanitarian assistance, a symbol of trust that is needed to give those vehicles with that symbol needed access where they are needed during armed conflict.”

[Edge-]

FUnny I don't see one mention of Geneva Conventions or violations of it in the entire article. It just says an investigation. Nice mirepresnetation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...er-protest-dc/

“Misuse of the Red Cross symbol is prohibited even during peacetime by the First Geneva Convention, to which the U.S. is a party,” said Rachel E. VanLandingham, a former Air Force attorney and professor at the Southwestern Law School in Los Angeles.

Unlike you, I can actually cite my sources.

[grexly75]

You won't hear any outrage over that from the national media.

And found that from a news site here in Australia.. And it is a shame that it will probably be that way..

[Katchii]

We probably just need to consider, what matters more, lives or property? It's really weird to me that people can come up with all of this outrage for property, but the same posters are dead silent to the hundreds of videos of unwarranted and often entirely unprovoked assault by police in those very same protests.

The question is more complicated than that though. Life is obviously more important, but if someone loses their livelihood, they can't support themselves or their family and a long litany of other things can happen to them over time.

If you HAVE to prioritize one over the other, obviously life wins....but that shouldn't be the case here. WHY should people have to choose one over the other here, that's the crazy part because the destruction of property is being perpetuated by people within their own community when this should be a time for solidarity...not waging a battle on two fronts.

[Ettan]

I think the tally is 9 so far. But difficult to tell in the middle of this, might have some completely unrelated incidents and some missing ones.
https://www.voanews.com/usa/death-to...ional-protests

2 cops (1 retired)
7 protestors / people who got in their way (or in the way of the police)/ people who tried to defend their property or successfully did it with lethal force.

[rrayy]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...er-protest-dc/



Unlike you, I can actually cite my sources.

YOu just linked a completely different article. Your original source contained no mention of Gevena Convention or any possible violations. Providing a completely different link later doesn't the fact you orginally mjis-represented what was in the article you originally posted. So not only were you dishonest to begin with, you try to act like it didn't happen with a completely different link instead of admitting you screwed up.

[grexly75]

I think the tally is 9 so far. But difficult to tell in the middle of this, might have some completely unrelated incidents and some missing ones.
https://www.voanews.com/usa/death-to...ional-protests

2 cops (1 retired)
7 protestors / people who got in their way (or in the way of the police)/ people who tried to defend their property or successfully did it with lethal force.

It is 11 people who have died to this chaos and many injured..

https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/at-least-11-killed-during-u-s-protests-seeking-justice-for-george-floyd-many-of-them-african-americans/

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/death-t...cism-1.4964834

[Benggaul]

You missed the key word "outrage". That is simply a news report. SHow me in that artice where a CNN commentator is quoated as being outraged over it.

You might want to read entire post first before blindly running off to attempt a "gotcha" moment.

EDIT: IN fact, the one quote tit does have is from a far left filmakeer who bashed teh PResdent for paying his condolences to the Captain:

Ah, the last resort of the categorically refuted: Being a retroactively pedantic fuck. Have a nice life, kiddo.

[rrayy]

This is the source article that this article linked to. I know your only goal is to post in bad faith, but can you at least troll with a little more gumption.

So? There was no mention in the article she directly linked that had any mention. She should have linked the source article then. Stop making excuses for her screw up.

[Mister K]

Wow, an unattributed quote.

Phillip Bloom. A great individual.

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When people protested peacefully, they were also vilified / fired / called fucking traitors. It's almost as if white people don't care, don't want to hear it, and are desperately looking for any excuse to ignore it, regardless of how it's objected to, so stop invoking "peace" when what you mean is, shut up about burying your murdered children, I'm trying to watch football. As for your fixation on the looting, I'm sure there's also cock fighting going on somewhere, and meth selling, and prostitution, all equally irrelevant to what's at issue here, so see above about desperately looking for any excuse to ignore the real problem. And if your willingness to accept that murdering black people is a problem and that we should finally fucking do something about it is conditioned on anything, you were ok with it in the first place. Which is also not the looters' fault.

*facepalm*

[Lorgar Aurelian]

It's already happened.


https://twitter.com/Breaking911/stat...03207549165568


I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner. I am no advocating violence back towards the police, but given how the past 5 - 7 years have been with viral cases of police brutality and race relations with the police... I'm surprised this didn't happen the same day as Mr. Floyd's murder.


It's weird; you go to all of these social networking websites with hundreds and hundreds of civilian videos capturing moments of intense police brutality, unecessary (and in some cases unwarranted) excessive force and you can only help but wonder how these states most effected will go back to normal.. if ever.

Ah then I’m surprised it’s not more wide spread but I guess it will keep growing as long as police continue with there brutality towards peaceful protesters.

[rrayy]

And found that from a news site here in Australia.. And it is a shame that it will probably be that way..

You'l wil hear the actual report, but hte national media will quickly get through it and back to other things and you certainly won't see any commentator on any network(other than maybe Fox News anyway) talk about how they are outraged he was killed.

[rrayy]

They had to change the sign on the doctors in stardew valley because it violated the Geneva convention lol

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Take the L

NO L to take. There was absolutely no mention of Geneva Conventions in the original article she linked. I had every right to call into question that she misrepresented the situation. She should be apologizing for her mistake instead. As it is, while it is a violation I guarantee they aren't investigating for Geneva Convention violations. They are investigating because it is a violation of Army regulations.

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Dont worry he will live on in the hearts of pearl clutchers everywhere

You do know he is a black cop right? I guess some black lives don't matter at all then.

[rrayy]

I know and it blows that his death will be used against black people.

So you were lying when you said Black Lives Matter? It's obvious you don't care about his.