Yeah I most likely forgot several things, makes it even worse..
wow has turned into a huge spreadsheet where its not enough to get good gear. Theres so many layers its bad. The leveling is actually even so cut off to what the max level experience is. When leveling your standard stats increase, gear that drops easily show +/- on it, you can somewhat easily enough figure out what stat thats better for you.
And for those who does all of these things required in BfA, its gone when SL launches.
Back in the day the gameplay, the game itself would carry enough weight to it for people to stay subbed and playing. Its replaced with artifical power hidden behind long grinds and the final reward is to have it all removed when a new xpac launches. Sure gear has always been replaced in a new xpac, but now its gear+neck+essences+corruption you lose.
Your class might even feel awesome now with essences+corruption. Thats gone when SL launches. The classes & specs should be great to play at its core, not with rental powers.
Rental power can be great when executed correct in the game. Like with alot of things with BfA, they went way to far and overboard and it didnt deliver.
Ofc it should be an advantage for those who plays through the whole xpac, but it doesnt require alot of time away from the game before you are left behind. I played all the way to right before 8.3 launched and I subbed back 2-3 weeks ago. Even I cant be bothered with it and unsubbed again after leveling a few chars for heritage armor.
Kudos to those who bother farming all of this over the summer. personally im gonna take a long break and build up some good old wow xpac hype for SL!
What do you mean? That's how the game is regardless of whether WF/TF/Corruption are in the game. I want to play my alts and gear them up too, but when systems like that are implemented in the game, it takes longer to achieve BiS. Every single person playing WoW should have a few alts and if they don't, well they're a special snowflake. Most of us have alts and we want to progress on them too, but when progression feels almost endless due to excessive layers of RNG, it kills all motivation to play the game. When the only RNG was whether or not your gear dropped, people had no issues with it. During Wotlk, the peak of WoW's population, no one had any issues with how gear worked. We didn't need any special procs or unique effects that would randomly occur, the gear either dropped or it didn't and that whole system was perfectly fine from vanilla-MoP.
Your whole example of "Run the same instances over and over again until it drops" is still a thing in BFA. I can't recall how many +10 and above I ran for freehold to help my bud get a titanforged Dice during season 2. We literally did what you said happens if WF/TF/Corruption isn't in the game. We saw handful of Dice drop, but guess what, none of them were titanforged. So you're telling me, it's more fun to run a dungeon 30+ times instead of a few times??? I'm going to run Freehold 30+ times across my 12 alts and they'll all potentially get upgrades without systems like WF/TF/Corruption, instead I'm running the same dungeon on the same character 30+ times all because the item that we were chasing didn't get the proc we wanted. That's not fun and anyone who thinks it is, is severely delusional.
Most likely the wisest Enhancement Shaman.
More importantly, shareholders are happy. WoD (introduction of Pathfinder) Legion (class halls, AP system, allied races and 8 MONTHS to get a class mount) and BfA (ap grind, corruptions, essences and the worst terrain design). These 3 expacs are all shareholder expansions.
Shareholders FIRST, players SECOND
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i mean, the majority of the playerbase is whiny fucks. people who assume that if they clog twitter up with enough things they want that they will get it. players are good, the playerbase as a whole is a fucking cesspool.
oh, if you think there arent going to be things in shadowlands (and pretty much forever going forward) that require players to put time into, you might as well find a new game.
There's a difference between putting time into and appeasing shareholders. All of these grinds in BfA directly relate to increasing time played metrics thus appeasing shareholders. AP being gone and letting gear be gear is a H U G E decrease of time played metrics, so I'm hopeful for SL but let's be real - Blizzard released Battle for Azeroth.
Look im not sure what LFR or WQ have to do with the argument you are trying to make, but i have not done LFR in a few years. Honestly, i have zero idea what you are trying to argue, other than that you obviously are trying to insult people. If your only intention is to try and troll, you'll just get banned, so i honestly wouldnt bother. Either make an argument, or just leave it.
He's just blowing smoke out of his ass. He's doing simple math that is something like this: If you can obtain BiS faster, then you'll stop playing sooner because there's no more gear progression. When reality is we all have alts and we can then progress on those alts sooner rather than slogging through the same content endlessly trying to get the piece of loot to drop AND get the proc whether it's WF/TF/Corruption. Again, he's just blowing smoke out his ass.
Most likely the wisest Enhancement Shaman.
And do you have the data? Because i played a lot less than we had titanforging as there was absolutely
reason to do content that didn't give me any upgrades. The moment I stepped foot in raids in MoP was the moment all other content became irrelevant and only came once to timeless isle to farm some bloody coins.
I guess I am rare type of player that has self control and stops whenever something is giving me any burnout.