Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Breccia]

They have to placate the man child.

Why didn't they just tell him to log in here? The banner ads are Trump like four times out of ten.

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Our Ruling

Barr said federal officers used no chemical irritants to clear people away from a D.C. church Trump planned to visit. He said pepper balls are not chemical irritants.

The Park Police used impact munitions made by the PepperBall company. Those munitions contain PAVA, a synthetic chemical that causes extreme eye pain.

The Justice Department says pepper balls contain "highly irritating pepper powder."

We rate Barr’s claim Pants on Fire.

"Pepper balls are not chemical irritants" on live TV is pretty high up there on the list of "blatant objective lies told by the Trump administration". A rare break-away that it wasn't Trump personally who said it.

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Trump Accuses 75-Year-Old Shoved by Buffalo Police on Video of Faking Fall

Was this the guy who immediately got a bleeding head wound? Because he'd have to fake that, or take method acting to a whole new level, if this is the guy who got a bleeding head wound.

[Stormspark]

Why didn't they just tell him to log in here? The banner ads are Trump like four times out of ten.

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"Pepper balls are not chemical irritants" on live TV is pretty high up there on the list of "blatant objective lies told by the Trump administration". A rare break-away that it wasn't Trump personally who said it.

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Was this the guy who immediately got a bleeding head wound? Because he'd have to fake that, or take method acting to a whole new level, if this is the guy who got a bleeding head wound.

Yes, that's who he's talking about. I saw the video. That guy is lucky to be alive, if he is.

[-aiko-]

Was this the guy who immediately got a bleeding head wound? Because he'd have to fake that, or take method acting to a whole new level, if this is the guy who got a bleeding head wound.

The very same. I don't want to give this motherfucker any attention, so I won't link it, but the tweet is out there. The President of the United States is accusing a 75-year old man of:

1. Faking being pushed
2. Presumably faking his serious but stable condition
3. Trying to black out police equipment...somehow (I'm serious)

Edit: Oh, and Trump also suggested he was part of ANTIFA because of course he did.

[Mekh]

Was this the guy who immediately got a bleeding head wound?

Yes. /10arbitrarycharacters

[Paranoid Android]

Trump Accuses 75-Year-Old Shoved by Buffalo Police on Video of Faking Fall.

Because why not at this point...

This is a holy bleep of holy bleeps. So he accused a US citizen of being with ANTIFA. Again he wants to label this guy a terrorist, this is effin wild! His source is of course OANN. He then claims the person faked his fall.

Holy /Bleep

[Breccia]

Again he wants to label this guy a terrorist

It's not quite that bad, but close. He said "could be an ANTIFA provocateur" so he didn't outright say "he is" but definitely put it out there with enough of his fat bulk behind it for his rabid fanbase to run with it, while still giving him a way out of challenged "Hey, I said 'could be' didn't I?" Trump would say. "I never actually accused him, that's Fake News."

Related: Trump could be 300 pounds of excrement, masquerading as a human being. Could be.

Trump also said the guy "fell harder than he was pushed." I think he's just confused -- that man weighs half, maybe less, of what Trump does. Trump is just projecting the massive amount of inertia he possesses, onto other people.

[Thekri]

Trump also said the guy "fell harder than he was pushed." I think he's just confused -- that man weighs half, maybe less, of what Trump does. Trump is just projecting the massive amount of inertia he possesses, onto other people.

I lack significant experience in pushing over old people to be sure, but what exactly is he referring to here? If he claiming the guy went stiff when falling or something?

Who am I kidding, he isn't referring to anything consciously, he is just parroting a conspiracy theorist he saw on TV. Maybe he shouldn't watch 12 hours of TV a day.

[Smitzelplix]

This is a holy bleep of holy bleeps. So he accused a US citizen of being with ANTIFA. Again he wants to label this guy a terrorist, this is effin wild! His source is of course OANN. He then claims the person faked his fall.

Holy /Bleep

Antifa is going to be the next fake news. Fake news is any piece of news that Trump or his followers don't like and now any person that Trump or his followers don't like are now going to be Antifa.

[Breccia]

he is just parroting a conspiracy theorist he saw on TV.

OANN, to be precise. I don't think FOX News is ready to say "we believe old people are anti-Trump" yet.

Unrelated: This NBC News article has a pretty good checklist of Confederate statues and monuments taken down/being taken down, but it focuses on one in General HARDEE HAR HAR.

A judge in Richmond has issued an injunction preventing Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam’s administration from removing a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee for 10 days.

The temporary injunction order issued Monday says the state is a party to a deed recorded in March 1890 in which it accepted the statue, pedestal and ground they sit on and agreed to “faithfully guard” and “affectionately protect” them.

It is in the public interest to await a resolution of the case on the merits prior to removal of the statue, the order says.

"Hold on, I gotta document the importance of this Confederate monument."
"What are you doing? General Lee is sitting up here."
"Traitor who killed thousands to protect slavery...horse's ass...same thing."

The lawsuit was filed by William C. Gregory, who is described in the complaint as a descendant of two signatories to the deed. Named as defendants are Northam and the director of the Department of General Services, the agency tasked with handling the removal.

“(Gregory’s) family has taken pride for 130 years in this statue resting upon land belonging to his family and transferred to the Commonwealth in consideration of the Commonwealth contractually guaranteeing to perpetually care for and protect the Lee Monument,” the lawsuit says.

Northam’s spokeswoman, Alena Yarmosky, said in a statement that the governor’s administration is still reviewing the order.

“Governor Northam remains committed to removing this divisive symbol from Virginia’s capital city, and we’re confident in his authority to do so,” she said.

Opponents of the monuments say they celebrate white supremacy and gloss over the nation’s history of slavery. Others who advocate for keeping them say they have historical or artistic value and their removal amounts to erasing history.

Do you know what else amounts to erasing history? Pretending you didn't lose the Civil War.

I'm sure the state can "faithfully guard" the statue in a warehouse or basement somewhere.

[omerome]

I lack significant experience in pushing over old people to be sure, but what exactly is he referring to here? If he claiming the guy went stiff when falling or something?

Who am I kidding, he isn't referring to anything consciously, he is just parroting a conspiracy theorist he saw on TV. Maybe he shouldn't watch 12 hours of TV a day.

What I find troubling is when I went to report that tweet about him promoting conspiracy theories, just how many times he retweets people in one day. It's mind-blowing how he finds this much time to not only retweet, but also tweet himself. This is supposed to be the president of the US and he somehow finds so much time to be on twitter when he should be working on the issues this country is clearly dealing with right now. And yet his supporters destroyed Obama every time he golfs - which even then, pales in comparison to the amount the resident does.

[Breccia]

Antifa is going to be the next fake news. Fake news is any piece of news that Trump or his followers don't like and now any person that Trump or his followers don't like are now going to be Antifa.

I kind of want to be part of the conversation when that happens.

"ANTIFA is the enemy! We are against ANTIFA!"
"And what does ANTIFA stand for?"
"Well, it stands for 'anti-fascism' of course."
"And you're saying they are your enemy..."
"Damn right we are!"
"Which would make you..."

[Edge-]

Trump Accuses 75-Year-Old Shoved by Buffalo Police on Video of Faking Fall.

Because why not at this point...

May OAN burn to the ground, and may Trump live a long life in constant terror of being assassinated, but never actually being harmed.

And 33% of this country think this behavior is just fucking fine.

Fuck it, I say we let the fucking South secede and Trump can be their president for life. We'll take the refugees and form our own nation.

I see no common ground with these people. No shared love of country and our fellow American. I see no kindred spirits. I see hate. I see ignorance. I see inhumanity.

These people, including Trump, are not Americans. They're filth.

[Lenonis]

So not Lady G?

...I feel like I missed something to get this reference?

[Thepersona]

I kind of want to be part of the conversation when that happens.

"ANTIFA is the enemy! We are against ANTIFA!"
"And what does ANTIFA stand for?"
"Well, it stands for 'anti-fascism' of course."
"And you're saying they are your enemy..."
"Damn right we are!"
"Which would make you..."

That happens here too, just in spanish and with less self reflecting.

Speaking of confederate monuments (or as they're better known, the racist participation trophy), are there any talks of taking down the confederate statues carved in the side of a hill?

[Lenonis]

Trump Accuses 75-Year-Old Shoved by Buffalo Police on Video of Faking Fall.

Because why not at this point...

It's almost like Trump is trying to lose the election at this point by completely repulsing anyone other than his rabid base.

He lost the black vote with his handling of the protests and his "LAW AND ORDER" tweets.

Now he lost anyone who has any sense of morality by attacking a 75 year old protester.

Either his campaign team is so far up his ass they don't care about any of this or they are all hating their lives right now.

[Breccia]

we let the fucking South secede

While I oppose this, there are three parts of it I find especially funny.

1) It's well-established at this point that South/Republican states take more federal tax money than they pay to the federal government. If a country was made out of only the socialist leeches who don't think they're socialist leeches, hoo boy, would those first few budget meetings be amazing to watch.

2) The increasingly purple/blue states on the border, such as Ohio and Virginia, would be forced to ask "Wait a minute, is this really worth the hassle? Or is toning down the racism and anti-LBGTQ attitude small price to pay for working infrastructure and trade deals?"

3) If they call themselves the South United, we could call the movement SUXIT.

[kaid]

OANN, to be precise. I don't think FOX News is ready to say "we believe old people are anti-Trump" yet.

Unrelated: This NBC News article has a pretty good checklist of Confederate statues and monuments taken down/being taken down, but it focuses on one in General HARDEE HAR HAR.




"Hold on, I gotta document the importance of this Confederate monument."
"What are you doing? General Lee is sitting up here."
"Traitor who killed thousands to protect slavery...horse's ass...same thing."



Do you know what else amounts to erasing history? Pretending you didn't lose the Civil War.

I'm sure the state can "faithfully guard" the statue in a warehouse or basement somewhere.

That was my thought sure we will guard it and affectionately protect it by sticking it in a windowless warehouse where it can be forgotten.

[Breccia]

are there any talks of taking down the confederate statues carved in the side of a hill?

I assume you're talking about Stone Mountain, aka Racist Mount Rushmore. And no. The most recent news I can find on the subject is...are you fucking kidding me? Someone shot a black guy there and left him for dead.

[Edge-]

https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status...37146008846336

Sure is amusing that Trump's new favorite network seems to have very close ties to Russian propaganda site, Sputnik.

Since when the fuck did Russia so hardcore "cuck" the US conservative base that they've become the little spoon to Big Daddy Putin's big spoon?

[Thepersona]

While I oppose this, there are three parts of it I find especially funny.

1) It's well-established at this point that South/Republican states take more federal tax money than they pay to the federal government. If a country was made out of only the socialist leeches who don't think they're socialist leeches, hoo boy, would those first few budget meetings be amazing to watch.

2) The increasingly purple/blue states on the border, such as Ohio and Virginia, would be forced to ask "Wait a minute, is this really worth the hassle? Or is toning down the racism and anti-LBGTQ attitude small price to pay for working infrastructure and trade deals?"

3) If they call themselves the South United, we could call the movement SUXIT.

With guns, terrible healthcare, incest (and no, not the pornhub kind) and hatred of blacks/latino/asians/middle easterns included?