[EU] Brexit negotiations at a standstill

[Mayhem]

A key element that this does not account for is that there's more than trade, namely immigration policy :

-since we in CH joined the Schengen Area, we on one hand saw what some qualify as unbridled immigration from the EU, and on another hand immigration becoming much more difficult for non EU people (including NA).

You can have qualifiers for immigration even in Schengen countries.

[Xarkan]

The European Village is an affectionate moniker that has been used by many in European circles.

You think it is an "affectionate moniker" and not a poor attempt at an insult when that poster says it?

[zealo]

You can have qualifiers for immigration even in Schengen countries.

The UK was never in Schengen either to begin with. It is a moot point in regards to the UK.

[Easo]

That's an easy one.

EU pop 450m / world population 7.5bn x 100 = 6% of the world = quite correctly described as a village.

Let the UK deal with the whole world, or 94% of it if the EU want to build a wall around themselves and close themselves off.

USA is an even bigger village, UK much more so if judging by the population. Just using your... logic?
Are you sure you thought this through?

[Mayhem]

USA is an even bigger village, UK much more so if judging by the population. Just using your... logic?
Are you sure you thought this through?

He never does, quite obviously as every post he makes is self-defeating.

[Gorsameth]

Let me allay your fears...

Brexit is not anti-immigration and will serve to increase diversity. This weeks recent example of offering 3 million people from Hong Kong a pathway to UK citizenship prove that point.

Does London cuisine, as you mention it, really need another EU pizza/pasta parlour? Treating citizens of the world equally rather than putting EU mainly white immigrants, as remainers with a hint of racism do, on a pedestal is wrong and Brexit ends this inequality.

Indian restaurants have been complaining for years how they can't source the specialised chefs they need locally. Another example of a Brexit benefit that will ease that shortage.

The UK will be more diverse, not less from now on. Why can't remainers/rejoiners find it within themselves, as brexiteers do, to celebrate that?

Look to the world, not the EU village, for that is where the future lies.

I'm betting those 3 million people were all born during the time that HK was a UK colony.
So diverse to let former subjects back into your country.

And totally something you couldn't do while still part of the EU...
oh wait, 300k of those 3 million are already classified as UK citizens, and the rest would be eligible.

Another terrible point dribbles.

[FluFF]

I don't know what's more baffling, the constant nonsense and non-points from Dribbles time after time or the fact that it's been going on for 4 years like a broken record on repeat.

[dribbles]

I'm betting those 3 million people were all born during the time that HK was a UK colony.
So diverse to let former subjects back into your country.

And totally something you couldn't do while still part of the EU...
oh wait, 300k of those 3 million are already classified as UK citizens, and the rest would be eligible.

Another terrible point dribbles.

We couldn't really do it though whilst in the EU, all the spare raid spots were taken up by them if you like.

Being in the EU was like being in a friends and family guild and trying to raid with blind uncle albert who keeps standing in the fire and aunty betty with a screaming baby on her lap. Now we can pick the team from the best of the best and by ability, watch the UK set free of those EU shackles fly.

[Gorsameth]

We couldn't really do it though whilst in the EU, all the spare raid spots were taken up by them if you like.

Being in the EU was like being in a friends and family guild and trying to raid with blind uncle albert who keeps standing in the fire and aunty betty with a screaming baby on her lap. Now we can pick the team from the best of the best and by ability, watch the UK set free of those EU shackles fly.

So your saying all those 3 million people have been vetted extensively, and are not simply all Hong Kong citizens born before the hand off in 1997?

[Mayhem]

We couldn't really do it though whilst in the EU, all the spare raid spots were taken up by them if you like.

Being in the EU was like being in a friends and family guild and trying to raid with blind uncle albert who keeps standing in the fire and aunty betty with a screaming baby on her lap. Now we can pick the team from the best of the best and by ability, watch the UK set free of those EU shackles fly.

Why do you have so little knowledge about the policies of your own country?

[Huehuecoyotl]

Why do you have so little knowledge about the policies of your own country?

In his defence, his posts suggest he has very little knowledge about anything. But he is very good at finding articles that explain why Brexit is a bad thing and posting them here with thoroughly misplaced triumph.

[dribbles]

In his defence, his posts suggest he has very little knowledge about anything. But he is very good at finding articles that explain why Brexit is a bad thing and posting them here with thoroughly misplaced triumph.

Articles like this one sweetie? Your wish is my command...

Unilever picks London as its home over Rotterdam

https://www.theguardian.com/business...over-rotterdam

Gotta love those Brexit benefits don't you?

[Gorsameth]

Articles like this one sweetie? Your wish is my command...

Unilever picks London as its home over Rotterdam

https://www.theguardian.com/business...over-rotterdam

Gotta love those Brexit benefits don't you?

Predictable as the sun rising.
This is the result of a 2018 decision by the shareholders to oppose a proposed move to Rotterdam and will have no impact at all on workers or production locations, its purely an on-paper matter.
https://www.theguardian.com/business...uk-netherlands

[Huehuecoyotl]

Articles like this one sweetie? Your wish is my command...

Unilever picks London as its home over Rotterdam

https://www.theguardian.com/business...over-rotterdam

Gotta love those Brexit benefits don't you?

Fucking hell. You are consistent, I'll give you that. Once again your "Brexit benefit" is that a company that was going to relocate its head office BECAUSE OF BREXIT has decided not to after all. It doesn't improve the situation for the UK at all, it creates no jobs here and it won't lead to any more tax being paid by this firm.

Seriously, do you even read these things beyond the headlines? Do you not understand what you're reading? Are you doing this deliberately to make yourself look like an idiot?

If it weren't for the facist nonsense you spout from time to time, I'd be happy to accept that this whole time you've just been the champion satirist of this board. Because you've done more to make the Brexit cause look stacked full of morons than anybody else posting here.

[dribbles]

Fucking hell. You are consistent, I'll give you that. Once again your "Brexit benefit" is that a company that was going to relocate its head office BECAUSE OF BREXIT has decided not to after all. It doesn't improve the situation for the UK at all, it creates no jobs here and it won't lead to any more tax being paid by this firm.

Seriously, do you even read these things beyond the headlines? Do you not understand what you're reading? Are you doing this deliberately to make yourself look like an idiot?

If it weren't for the facist nonsense you spout from time to time, I'd be happy to accept that this whole time you've just been the champion satirist of this board. Because you've done more to make the Brexit cause look stacked full of morons than anybody else posting here.

So why the disappointment from our Dutch eurochums then? From the article (did you even read it?):-

The Dutch government, however, was disappointed by the latest review. “We regret this proposal as we would rather have seen a simplification with a Dutch company at the head

Come on then why so sad, if there are no consequences?

I wonder how many other EU companies with significant UK shareholders to answer to will also come under presuure to make London their global HQ. It's just commonsense really being that EU companies were governed by UK, not EU law before Brexit, and still are now we have left the EU.

And there we brexiteers were being told the UK held no cards over the EU, Unilever shows otherwise we still legally rule the EU roost.

twas everso...

[Mayhem]

So why the disappointment from our Dutch eurochums then? From the article (did you even read it?):-

The Dutch government, however, was disappointed by the latest review. “We regret this proposal as we would rather have seen a simplification with a Dutch company at the head

Come on then why so sad, if there are no consequences?

I wonder how many other EU companies with significant UK shareholders to answer to will also come under presuure to make London their global HQ. It's just commonsense really being that EU companies were governed by UK, not EU law before Brexit, and still are now we have left the EU.

And there we brexiteers were being told the UK held no cards over the EU, Unilever shows otherwise we still legally rule the EU roost.

twas everso...

You truly take being wrong to a new level, it's almost performance art.

[Logwyn]

The American above disagrees with you, but what does he know, right?

The American franchises around here advertise with slogans like "meat from Austria" and so on. Yeah, even the American franchises don't want to associate themselves with American food.

The fast-food companies will get their meat and other products from a supplier close to the stores for the country. Generally, it is cheaper to do this. For instance, KFC in the UK gets the chicken from the UK and Ireland. The food is fresher and cheaper than shipping it in a refrigerator ship across the Atlantic.

[Mayhem]

The fast-food companies will get their meat and other products from a supplier close to the stores for the country. Generally, it is cheaper to do this. For instance, KFC in the UK gets the chicken from the UK and Ireland. The food is fresher and cheaper than shipping it in a refrigerator ship across the Atlantic.

Of course, but they didn't need to make this an advertisement slogan.

[Gorsameth]

So why the disappointment from our Dutch eurochums then? From the article (did you even read it?):-

The Dutch government, however, was disappointed by the latest review. “We regret this proposal as we would rather have seen a simplification with a Dutch company at the head

Come on then why so sad, if there are no consequences?

I wonder how many other EU companies with significant UK shareholders to answer to will also come under presuure to make London their global HQ. It's just commonsense really being that EU companies were governed by UK, not EU law before Brexit, and still are now we have left the EU.

And there we brexiteers were being told the UK held no cards over the EU, Unilever shows otherwise we still legally rule the EU roost.

twas everso...

If they do business in the EU or with EU consumers they are subject to EU rules, no matter where their HQ is located.

[dribbles]

If they do business in the EU or with EU consumers they are subject to EU rules, no matter where their HQ is located.

I guess they'll still keep a PO box at Schiphol for the service of documents right? But what if they do business outside the little EU village? Brexiteers have been saying for years the world is a big place....

Pick any big Dutch or EU company doing a deal with a Chinese company. It won't be Dutch Law or EU law or Chinese law that the written contract defers to in a dispute. Nope it will be good ole English law that governs it.

Imagine that and tell me now where the power is post Brexit and say with a straight face the UK don't hold any cards.