Mega-Thread: Coronavirus Pandemic

[PACOX]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...navirus-review

So it seems the virus is racist after all. Just like I suggested couple of months ago and got infracted for it.

1) BAME is a crazy acronym

2) Most Americans are vitamin D deficient regardless of ethnicity. .

3) Vegans and people on natural diets would be even more screwed during a lockdown since they don't eat most of the stuff that vitamin D is in while spending less time outside.

Edit - in the US the number of cases among black people is 20%, higher than the percentage of black people in the US but not by much.

Hispanic cases are at 35= which is tragic. Kind of goes against the vitamin D theory and ethnicity correlation since Hispanic is being used in a broad sense.

[tehealadin]

Your view of racism seems to be that it's better that person of colour suffer from diseases such as rickets in Europe/N. America (and covid-19 if these new conclusions hold) than be seen as racist.

I wouldn't go saying stuff like that. Just agree that it must be racism. As Puupi said, they got infracted for suggesting otherwise. The actual on the ground impact is meaningless, perception is everything. To suggest otherwise is to open things up to nuance and potentially difficult conversations. It is better to avoid these things.

[Forogil]

I wouldn't go saying stuff like that. Just agree that it must be racism. As Puupi said, they got infracted for suggesting otherwise. The actual on the ground impact is meaningless, perception is everything. To suggest otherwise is to open things up to nuance and potentially difficult conversations. It is better to avoid these things.

Of course, you wouldn't go saying things like that.
But you find it better to avoid these things and let people die to covid-19 - than prevent the deaths with vitamins D to certain groups.

(Assuming vitamin D is part of the explanation, it's likely - but it's also possible that it's something else.)

[unfilteredJW]

Can someone send an adult to Florida please!?!?!

[PACOX]

Can someone send an adult to Florida please!?!?!

Florida hardly had a lockdown. Any sort of enforced lockdown was local or on a business by business level Opened early. Preventative measures are optional. Lied about numbers.

Is anyone shocked. Now all yall tourists come on down here and catch some of this Floridaman Flu.

[unfilteredJW]

Florida hardly had a lockdown. Any sort of enforced lockdown was local or on a business by business level Opened early. Preventative measures are optional. Lied about numbers.

Is anyone shocked. Now all yall tourists come on down here and catch some of this Floridaman Flu.

Correct.

The other places you see blooming? They are our target audience here where I live. It’s like watching dumb in real time.

[bmjclark]

Watching Florida and Texas covid numbers is kind of like watching a car crash in slow motion at this point. The most amazing part is that they're both likely to just try to knuckle under instead of actually taking any action. At this point I honestly think they're going to make New York look tame.

[PACOX]

Correct.

The other places you see blooming? They are our target audience here where I live. It’s like watching dumb in real time.

Anyone remember when Miami suggested over half of its people were silently infected after one round of antibody tests? I remember. Their current numbers show they were way off.

Waves are easily a month long, so this one will intersect with July 4th. What's the over/under that people won't take precautions?

If there is one silver lining its that the population of both states is a lot more spread out that New York, which is concentrated around NYC.

Also also - where are 'Heat and humidity kill the virus' folks?

[Nellise]

Also also - where are 'Heat and humidity kill the virus' folks?

This isn't necessarily wrong. Obviously thinking it would cause no cases at all is wrong, but there is evidence, especially outdoors, that heat and UV radiation slow it down a bit. People are rejoicing over a drug that slows deaths by 5-12%, so if summer-like conditions does that, it's really a good thing, but shouldn't be counted on as some sort of fix for it.

[jonnysensible]

This isn't necessarily wrong. Obviously thinking it would cause no cases at all is wrong, but there is evidence, especially outdoors, that heat and UV radiation slow it down a bit. People are rejoicing over a drug that slows deaths by 5-12%, so if summer-like conditions does that, it's really a good thing, but shouldn't be counted on as some sort of fix for it.

whats the weather like in brazil and peru at the moment?

[MCMLXXXII]

whats the weather like in brazil and peru at the moment?

Very cold. 24 degrees Celsius.

[xenogear3]

whats the weather like in brazil and peru at the moment?

Arizona is 40 degrees C.
The hospital is full, with dead virus or human?

[AeneasBK]

Very cold. 24 degrees Celsius.

IKR my brother lives on the border with Paraguay and Argentina and it is midwinter and he said it was mild, checked thermometer, it was 26 degrees...

[Gaidax]

Don't count on heat as some solution... We're a hot country and out temp averages are higher than most European/NA locations and cases are still rising just fine.

We benefit a lot from early action and total lockdown we had, but now the effect of it is wearing off and there is still no effective treatment. We're currently debating whether to treat this as 2nd wave or still 1st wave. Preparation-wise we're really much better prepared now, so the plan now seems to be wait and see and avoid another full blown lockdown at all costs.

The previous lockdown was devastating economically, we're lucky we entered it strong economy-wise, but it still set us back half a decade-to-decade there all the self-imposed austerity we did to bring our debt to GDP ratio to pretty 60% went up in smoke and we will be back at 70% if not more to finance this crisis.

The most hurt from this are freelancer workers and SMBs, the compensations and help they are getting are inadequate. On top of that from our amazing 3.6% unemployment mark just before this whole mess we got in low 20s% unemployment now. People really got fucked there.

So I imagine the government will try to do everything they can to not have another lockdown because it will be a disaster.

[Puupi]

Today at midnight: Heavily guarded border checkpoint between Norway and Finland teared down by Finnish border guards after covid-19 restrictions reduced between the two countries

[xenogear3]

On top of that from our amazing 3.6% unemployment mark just before this whole mess we got in low 20s% unemployment now. People really got fucked there.

Israel has 20% unemployment rate too ?

[Natta Lmo]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...navirus-review

So it seems the virus is racist after all. Just like I suggested couple of months ago and got infracted for it.

how is the virus racist? ^^

we barely have any deaths here from it... why the results differ in uk from thailand if we were more vulnerable to it? south koreas death numbers are low too...

[Puupi]

how is the virus racist? ^^

we barely have any deaths here from it... why the results differ in uk from thailand if we were more vulnerable to it? south koreas death numbers are low too...

It's racist towards darker skinned people. Whether it's due to D-vitamin or some other way is not 100% sure yet, but there is a definitive physiological correlation.

You need to take into account when reading British sources that Indians are within their definition of "Asians".

[Natta Lmo]

It's racist towards darker skinned people. Whether it's due to D-vitamin or some other way is not 100% sure yet, but there is a definitive physiological correlation.

You need to take into account when reading British sources that Indians are within their definition of "Asians".

d vitamin deficiency is common in thailand and south korea because people avoid the sun... tan is ugly so people avoid sun exposure...

[Deathknightish]

Nordic council members believe that relations between the Nordic countries, especially between Sweden and the others, have taken a beating and will take time to heal. Normally during crises, the countries try to cooperate and find a solution together, where we wouldn't need to close down the border against each other, but now each have only looked around their own yard.

https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/sla...angda-granser/

Google translated:

The Corona pandemic is tearing up Nordic co-operation.

And Sweden has become something of a punching bag.

- When the crisis came without warning, the natural instinct was not to check with the other countries first. Everyone preferred their national systems, says the Nordic Council's communications manager Mary Gestrin.

National sovereignty beats Nordic co-operation. At least now in coronation times.

The five Nordic countries have not dedicated themselves to working together in the way we are used to. It has been about putting one's own nation primarily instead of holding each other's backs.

- We are talking about the core issues of sovereignty. No Nordic country could have changed its line at the beginning of the crisis, just because the other Nordic countries had a different line. The essence of the sovereignty of the Nordic countries lies in their own government and parliament, says Social Democrat Erkki Tuomioja from Finland to Svenska Yle .
Head of Communications: "It might not be so wise"

When Expressen talks to Mary Gestrin, Head of Communications at the Nordic Council and the Nordic Council of Ministers, she says that "it might not be wise to do so" - and believes that collaboration has been better than looking after their own house in the first place.

- It's easy to say afterwards, but it might have been wise to check if there was an opportunity for the countries to act jointly. Finding a common denominator has enabled us, for example, to avoid closing the borders between our countries in the region, says Mary Gestrin.

Do you agree that Sweden is the iron boy?

- Now Denmark is opening up the border for parts of Sweden where the statistics look better. It is a good solution that you have chosen not to pull the whole country over the same comb.

Scanians can go, but if you live in Småland you still have to stay home.

- So it is, unfortunately. From a health perspective, you can understand that. Countries that have been very careful want to continue to be so.

How are the Danish border patrols even gonna check where you live?