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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    https://www.motherjones.com/politics...-lebron-james/

    "Louisville’s Jefferson County (pop. 767,000) chose a single polling place"

    Seems reasonable!
    You'd think that the people could file a lawsuit against the administration for endangering the lives of 3/4 of a million people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    It does seem bad, but when you look into it, it isn't as bad as it has been in places like Georgia or Texas. They do seem to really be trying here. That one polling place is open for a full week, not one day, that is pretty huge, it lets people who want to vote in person go on weekends or whenever they can. It is also a massive convention center, with plenty of room, parking, and voting booths. Being a convention center, it is also convenient to public transit. Yes, it isn't ideal, but given the current circumstances with the pandemic, it is at least somewhat reasonable. They also dramatically expanded mail in voting.

    This is why polling place numbers shouldn't be the only metric looked at. Yes, more is better, but Kentucky seems to have done a pretty good job of expanding mail and early voting to address the situation. Most voters should be able to accommodate one or the other.
    I should have refreshed the page to see this comment before posting my most recent.

    Giving a full week, and mail in capabilities definitely makes a huge difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Now that is interesting. At first blush, it seems horrific - one polling place for 700k people is the definition of ridiculous. But then you read the above, and it makes a lot of sense.

    Open a full week, including weekends.
    Fucking HUGE - so, what, hundreds can vote at the same time.
    Convenient to mass transit - very key.

    Um, so, go Kentucky?
    Indeed. And hopefully this will set the precedent for other states to follow. There is no reason voting shouldn't be that accessible every election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathandira View Post
    I should have refreshed the page to see this comment before posting my most recent.

    Giving a full week, and mail in capabilities definitely makes a huge difference.

    Indeed. And hopefully this will set the precedent for other states to follow. There is no reason voting shouldn't be that accessible every election.
    Agreed. And they have already seen more mail in ballot requests than total people voted in the last primary.

    And I love their convention model - 1 week, HUGE facility, public transport - beautiful.

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    so if 250,000 registered voters wanted to vote and the place is open for 12 hours.

    they would have to process 20,000 voters an hour.

    Figure about what 5 minutes on average to vote between validation and actual voting?

    It would require about 1700 machines/workers to handle the volume per hour.

    if it was open for 7 days it would still require 250 people/machines @ 12 hours a day.
    about 3000 processed an hour for 7 days.

    and that is only 250k.


    on top of the sever shortage of volunteers I mean does anyone find these numbers daunting?

    imagine more show up, hours are shorter, less can be processed per hour because of staffing shortages, longer average voting time...etc etc




    oh and btw a single location that they expect people to get into MASS TRANSIT during a fucking pandemic...….to get to vote...… vs local voting down the block.....ya.....no problems here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    so if 250,000 registered voters wanted to vote and the place is open for 12 hours.

    they would have to process 20,000 voters an hour.

    Figure about what 5 minutes on average to vote between validation and actual voting?

    It would require about 1700 machines/workers to handle the volume per hour.

    if it was open for 7 days it would still require 250 people/machines @ 12 hours a day.
    about 3000 processed an hour for 7 days.

    and that is only 250k.


    on top of the sever shortage of volunteers I mean does anyone find these numbers daunting?

    imagine more show up, hours are shorter, less can be processed per hour because of staffing shortages, longer average voting time...etc etc




    oh and btw a single location that they expect people to get into MASS TRANSIT during a fucking pandemic...….to get to vote...… vs local voting down the block.....ya.....no problems here.
    Don't forget, there is the mail in option as well. Most responsible people should choose that rather than in person voting.
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    Democrats are probably about to end their chances of giving McConnell the boot. Booker is definitely the guy I would love to win the race ideologically, but McGrath would have had a shot of taking the state because she's basically a blue Republican. Kicking out McConnell is one of those things that is important enough that some values need to be put aside in order to save the larger set of things we value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapemask View Post
    Democrats are probably about to end their chances of giving McConnell the boot. Booker is definitely the guy I would love to win the race ideologically, but McGrath would have had a shot of taking the state because she's basically a blue Republican. Kicking out McConnell is one of those things that is important enough that some values need to be put aside in order to save the larger set of things we value.
    I don't think it matters who they use. The money people are going to back McConnell because he's very talented at evil.

    However if McGrath is actually the more pragmatic choice lets hope she's not Manchin2.0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    https://www.motherjones.com/politics...-lebron-james/

    "Louisville’s Jefferson County (pop. 767,000) chose a single polling place"

    Seems reasonable!
    Checks demographics. Half of the population in Jefferson County is black.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    Checks demographics. Half of the population in Jefferson County is black.
    But look at the above info - it seems very bad at first, but the details make it actually a model for modern urban voting logistics.

    -convention center
    -open a full week, including weekends
    -hundreds of voting booths
    -easy access via public transit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapemask View Post
    Democrats are probably about to end their chances of giving McConnell the boot. Booker is definitely the guy I would love to win the race ideologically, but McGrath would have had a shot of taking the state because she's basically a blue Republican. Kicking out McConnell is one of those things that is important enough that some values need to be put aside in order to save the larger set of things we value.
    Agreed. I'd rather have Booker, but McGrath seems to have the best chance of beating McConnell. Is Booker ahead in the polls now?

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    NYer here. Last year I moved 4 blocks up the same street I live, right in downtown Buffalo, NY's second largest city. My polling place changed, that's how many we have. I've never had a polling place further than 1 mile away from where I live.

    I walked in today, signed my name, was in and out in 5 minutes, in a predominantly black neighborhood, at the lunch hour. Good to live in a blue state I guess.

    Felt weird voting in June though. FWIW, I'm in NY-26, right next to NY-27 where Chris Collins used to be the rep. I've done some work for the Dem challenger for that open seat, Nate McMurray (since, if you forgot, Chris Collins is now an indicted criminal), so I'll be watching that pretty closely. He barely lost in 2018 when Collins was incumbent and just under investigation in a +13 Republican district....but somehow I think he's probably gonna do worse this time, because of the time elapsed since the whole Chris Collins thing happened. Plus, obviously, his Republican opponent isn't proven to be insanely corrupt (yet). I'm not hopeful. The only real chance is that there's a serious hardcore Trumper running as an Independent who might siphon votes from the Republican (who's a rich, corporate, less nutjob-y Republican tapped by the local GOP as the "safe" pick). We'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    I walked in today, signed my name, was in and out in 5 minutes, in a predominantly black neighborhood, at the lunch hour.
    I'm 3-for-4. I um...don't think there's an African American living within 10 miles of my house.

    Yeah...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post

    Agreed. I'd rather have Booker, but McGrath seems to have the best chance of beating McConnell. Is Booker ahead in the polls now?
    There's some indication from some polls Booker would beat McConnell head to head, but they're like the Bernie vs. Trump polls where people say they'd vote for Bernie over Trump but, nah, not really, not once the socialist fearmongering starts. He's benefiting from those polls from being an unknown, while McConnell is a very much well known piece of shit.

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    tbh even if mcgrath might have a better chance then booker to beat mcconnell, neither has a particularly good chance. Both could possibly win, but neither will probably win. like gandalf said, a fools hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    There's some indication from some polls Booker would beat McConnell head to head, but they're like the Bernie vs. Trump polls where people say they'd vote for Bernie over Trump but, nah, not really, not once the socialist fearmongering starts. He's benefiting from those polls from being an unknown, while McConnell is a very much well known piece of shit.
    That makes sense. I really like McGrath being a blue Republican because it seems like in KY you kind of need that to win. Plus, she has $41-fucking-million in her war chest. That can't hurt. They must be freaking out though that the primary is all-of-a-sudden so tight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    tbh even if mcgrath might have a better chance then booker to beat mcconnell, neither has a particularly good chance. Both could possibly win, but neither will probably win. like gandalf said, a fools hope.
    I have a very hard time seeing McConnell losing...he seems like the guy who will do, and has done, anything to win - including ballot stuffing, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    But look at the above info - it seems very bad at first, but the details make it actually a model for modern urban voting logistics.

    -convention center
    -open a full week, including weekends
    -hundreds of voting booths
    -easy access via public transit

    Agreed. I'd rather have Booker, but McGrath seems to have the best chance of beating McConnell. Is Booker ahead in the polls now?

    I agree its a start, but there should be no less than 5-7 of these mega sites set up for a population this size.
    We spent how many hundreds of millions on a letter so trump could take credit for $1200 dollar checks....but can only afford 1 site?

    Problems I see:
    Just where you want to be...mass transit during a pandemic.

    Hundreds of booths are not enough if you even get 25% of the voters to turn out over 7 days.

    Glad they are open weekends, but that is where you are going to have the most problems and longest waits since most of this demographic in this area don't get paid time off to vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    I agree its a start, but there should be no less than 5-7 of these mega sites set up for a population this size.
    We spent how many hundreds of millions on a letter so trump could take credit for $1200 dollar checks....but can only afford 1 site?

    Problems I see:
    Just where you want to be...mass transit during a pandemic.

    Hundreds of booths are not enough if you even get 25% of the voters to turn out over 7 days.

    Glad they are open weekends, but that is where you are going to have the most problems and longest waits since most of this demographic in this area don't get paid time off to vote.
    Good point - I seem to be very fluid with my feelings on this issue. I guess if they had 5 of those that would be good. And yeah, how many millions were wasted on Dipshit-in-Chief's signature?

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    McGrath seems to be winning, although Booker indeed made a game of it. 46% reporting so far...I don't know the demographics to tell if there are big swings still to be reported.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...elections.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Good point - I seem to be very fluid with my feelings on this issue. I guess if they had 5 of those that would be good. And yeah, how many millions were wasted on Dipshit-in-Chief's signature?
    Well the bottom line is if they are putting forth a good faith effort to do as best they can, or not. As far as I can tell, this plan seems to be the product of good people doing their best. It isn't perfect, but based on reports, it seemed to work pretty well. One thing I found when I first looked into it is that the president of the Louisville Chapter of the NAACP was happy with the arrangement, and seemed upbeat about the result. That is a pretty good sign to me.

    Obviously 5 would be better, but in the real world resources are limited, and it looks like this worked well enough. Record turnout is a really good result, regardless of who wins.

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    I mean, Booker's numbers look real good.

    He's about ~10% behind with his home turf of Louisville barely reporting. According to his own exit polls, he's winning Louisville 82-16. If that's anywhere near accurate, it's gonna be his.

    Of course, then we'll have to wait to November to see if those McGrath rural counties come out in any way to vote for him.

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