Josh removed from Method, Sascha accused of harassment

[Samuraijake]

she did come forward to the cops, there are police reports however they couldn't move forward with it due to insufficient evidence

You mean the stuff she dug up and posted just now?

So the police determined that this is insufficient... but its sufficient for everyone and method. Take that Cops.... they should have the cops sponsored by Method #CopswithOrangeBadges

[Sinfelle]

Christ alive, is this thread the official gathering of the Incels 2020? If you don't think Sascha was in the wrong here, you need to go out and see the real world for abit.

Call us incels, but you're a simp. There's nothing wrong here, otherwise there'd be laws against it, even minor ones.

[kappalol]

#Saschadidnothingwrong

[Low Hanging Fruit]

I cannot say I am surprised about this. As soon as you turn something from hobby to business you end up with more than the usual number scumbags. Then these scumbags get a hold of money, then power, and eventually get the ability to reach out and touch other people (mentally or physically) to attempt to manipulate them to do what they want. Pretty much what has happened and will continue to happen with Method.

[Kumorii]

I love this argument.

You are only against BML because you are racist

You only dislike the gax character X because you are homophobic

You only question cancel culture because you are afraid of it

You ever thought , that maybe , only maybe. People arent that simple , and have other reasons then negative ones?

I add one to the sillyness.

Pro Cancel Culture people are only trying to compensate for their misbehaviour.

[Monster Hunter]

Got a little more context out of the preach video, apparently stuff like this has been going on a for a while. I'm not gonna start hating on method because i'm sure 99% of people had absolutely nothing to do with this, but... they dont make a good case for themselves

It's like the BBC and the whole Jimmy Savile scandle, not every person at the bcc knew about or was involved in covering up his noncing, but that stain is worn by every one at the bbc now past and present and honestly I belive that is right, alot of people won't do shit unless it effects them and there reputation so its the right message that if you harbour these disgusting creatures or turn a blind eye you too will have consequences to pay. And that stain on the whole company will be perminant.

[ClassicPeon]

not so much that but .. the girl is given 0 accountability. So of those things she was within legal age of consent and responsible for her own actions. After things got sexual she didnt block/ignore him... she pursued him on snapchat. Lastly instead of calling the police for the underrage picture exchange (which is the actual crime btw in the UK)... she made a twitter post 3 years later. No not to the police within the same month... But a twitter post.

the 16 year old:
if he did push her into sending nude photos and sending them to her while knowing she was underage he bears the blame. If he didnt push her, or didnt know whe was underage at the time she bears the blame of sharing underage porn, which is illegal.

What i dont get about that exchange is how casual she seemed throughout the entire thing. Like there was no signs that she was talking to someone with power over here in her responses.

[Andonais]

Where'd she say this? I don't watch her streams, and I can only see Twitter second hand because I don't use it myself.

But I still don't agree with that. That wasn't a work situation, it was arranged from a financial and friend based situation. If Method was the one paying for booking everyones room and he purposely tried to get them a bed together itd be different.

She did on her stream she said he was wrong but not a sexual abuser like all the other people she knows its not as serious but it had to be said. Maybe I worded it wrong in my last post

[Ghostile]

people who tend to complain about "cancel culture" are people who are afraid of it. and not because "its wrong"

"People who complain about peoples lives being ruined due to rumors are people who are afraid of not and not because it's wrong"

Just... what?

[ClassicPeon]

You mean the stuff she dug up and posted just now?

So the police determined that this is insufficient... but its sufficient for everyone and method. Take that Cops.... they should have the cops sponsored by Method #CopswithOrangeBadges

It doesnt have to be illegal to be fucking creepy and not a person you want representing your corporation though.

[Sinfelle]

First of all, flirting to one of your employees is already due to easily exploitable power dynamics scetchy. Similiar, why Student-Professor/ Teacher relationships are not legal. Even if both are consenting adults. It can be by nature coercive... Guess, who doesn't get promoted, or isn't asigned to certain projects if you reject. Or similiar measures of creating a terrible work climate.

Secondly, if a woman says no, but you keep repeadedly flirting, it becomes by definition harrassment...

Don't know where you're from but I've never heard of Professor/student relationships being illegal.

Secondly we need to stop pretending like they have relatable work environments. She's a streamer. Her, her stream, and her chat/community determine her success way more than Sascha ever could. That and I don't really see this as him stepping over the line. Dude has a couple to drink and admits he like her, so fucking what. After that it's cringe, but I don't interpret that as him continuing the subject. So I believe it's just blown way out of proportion.

[Samuraijake]

the 16 year old:
if he did push her into sending nude photos and sending them to her while knowing she was underage he bears the blame. If he didnt push her, or didnt know whe was underage at the time she bears the blame of sharing underage porn, which is illegal.

What i dont get about that exchange is how casual she seemed throughout the entire thing. Like there was no signs that she was talking to someone with power over here in her responses.

she still seems casual about because shes on twitter about it.

Also I'm not really for taking sides I just dont like when folks don't bother to examine every aspect and quickly finger point (in these cases straight at the guy) without questioning everything on the female's end. Sure punish this guy Josh, but I dont believe this chick is 100% innocent either and probably even has some malicious intent that we can't disregard.

[kamuimac]

Preach has also cut ties and wont work with Method in the future like world first races more will probably come today.

so dude who rutinely reads about questionable human behaviour - many including sexual nature in his "wow stories" to make ton of $$$$ wont work with method where dude hit on chick and she didnt like him and metooed him.

brave new world we live in indeed

[Monster Hunter]

Dang I'm getting lost. So the '4year back' case is with some other dude and girl? And this VirginJosh did whatnow? What exactly is "noncing accusation" ? Sorry English is not my mother tongue.

So the Sascha guy is the Co-ceo, he is accused of inappropriate behaviour from a superior to an employee, by making rather creepy and forceful advances on a female streamer.

Method Josh has a litany of girls and evidence comming out atm about misconduct and grooming girls online that are under the legal age (16 in the UK), pedos in the UK are called nonces so noncing is the act of pedophilia.

[Martymark]

It's about time Method got rid of their leaders and healers. Without those they can finally really shine!

[Garymorilix]

people who tend to complain about "cancel culture" are people who are afraid of it. and not because "its wrong"

So it's not wrong to ruin someone because someone else simply says something?
Okay bruv.

I will not be canceled as I don't have the money or power to have some pathetic little kid take advantage of it.

Should someone ever try still I'd immediately contact the authorities and make it legal.
Look how that pathetic little brat that accused Angry Joe is back pedaling now.

[Delever]

Don't know where you're from but I've never heard of Professor/student relationships being illegal.

Secondly we need to stop pretending like they have relatable work environments. She's a streamer. Her, her stream, and her chat/community determine her success way more than Sascha ever could. That and I don't really see this as him stepping over the line. Dude has a couple to drink and admits he like her, so fucking what. After that it's cringe, but I don't interpret that as him continuing the subject. So I believe it's just blown way out of proportion.

couldnt have said it better

[Samuraijake]

so dude who rutinely reads about questionable human behaviour - many including sexual nature in his "wow stories" to make ton of $$$$ wont work with method where dude hit on chick and she didnt like him and metooed him.

brave new world we live in indeed

i agree and that's actually kind of stupid. Preach reads alloud these stories off of his drama time all the time and laughs about it. Hasnt been an issue up until now. But it's so disguisting that he has to cut ties with method. Makes sense (not really... it sounds hypocritical)

[Crummy]

...wont work with method where dude hit on chick and she didnt like him and metooed him.

brave new world we live in indeed

Sure, let's over simplify. That will send the right signal.

[kamuimac]

She did on her stream she said he was wrong but not a sexual abuser like all the other people she knows its not as serious but it had to be said. Maybe I worded it wrong in my last post

well ofc she had to if she wants to avoid being sued for deflamation.

and thats exackly what he should do - also for wrongfully termination of his contract.