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  1. #321
    Let's say it wasn't actually a noose. What difference does it make?

    The Crew Member that found it believed it was a noose, NASCAR believed it was a noose, the FBI investigating it believed it was a noose, and even in their findings...they still say it was a fucking noose. Just not a noose meant as a specific threat against Bubba Wallace.

    It wasn't a hate-crime against Bubba Wallace...and that's a good thing. Less hate crimes is a good thing. But there was ever reason to believe that the piece of knotted rope that was tied to look like a noose....might actually be a noose. So NASCAR folowed procedure. They called the FBI. And even though it turned out to not be a hate crime...NASCAR still says they would do everything the same again.

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    Isn't 17 pages of racist dog whistling enough?

    Do you need to pretend the way the rope was knotted matters any more? Nobody is fooled.
    /s

  3. #323
    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    Facepalm
    They never said that.



    Double Facepalm.

    If the first tweets it was just they were looking at garage 4 where the noose was found...

    seems odd to not keep calling it a noose if that what they think it was.

  4. #324
    Quote Originally Posted by Dadwen View Post
    If the first tweets it was just they were looking at garage 4 where the noose was found...

    seems odd to not keep calling it a noose if that what they think it was.
    They didn't stop calling it a Noose, because it's a Noose.
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  5. #325
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuujin View Post
    As you 'reasonably' try to downplay the noose. Mmhm, mmhmm, indeed yes.

    I love how so many of you staked your argument on the size of the noose as if that really matters, as if burning a pocket bible or pocket constitution is somehow lesser because the size of the symbol is what determines how symbolic it is.

    Gonna assume you all wear big shoes, cause you clowns.
    Keep bleating about it. Meanwhile every news organisation has dropped it because its nothing. Sheep.
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  6. #326
    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    If that rope is about waist-chest height like I've seen in the other pictures, people are grabbing it a couple feet above the knot... Again have you ever closed a garage door with a rope?
    yes lots of times and truck doors too, put it too high and short people can't reach it, mostly need the grab to get it started once it's going you can use the rest of the rope, gravity takes over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dadwen View Post
    If the first tweets it was just they were looking at garage 4 where the noose was found...

    seems odd to not keep calling it a noose if that what they think it was.
    Whats odd is your obsession that this isn't a noose or isn't close enough to a noose to be called one.
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  8. #328
    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    They didn't stop calling it a Noose, because it's a Noose.
    really in that last tweet it was a garage door pull fashioned like a noose not just a noose.

    Seems they even realized it was not a true noose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dadwen View Post
    yes lots of times and truck doors too, put it too high and short people can't reach it, mostly need the grab to get it started once it's going you can use the rest of the rope, gravity takes over.
    Look at the pictures of people standing next to it..... It's low enough no one is going to be grabbing it near the knot....


    Again why is this so important for you?
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  10. #330
    Quote Originally Posted by Dadwen View Post
    really in that last tweet it was a garage door pull fashioned like a noose not just a noose.
    Which is a Noose.

    Seems they even realized it was not a true noose.
    Functionality Doesn't Matter.

    It was a Hangmans Noose.
    A Fetus is not a person under the 14th amendment.

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  11. #331
    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    Whats odd is your obsession that this isn't a noose or isn't close enough to a noose to be called one.
    As I said above I went a couple of pages with three of the people here on the technical definition of things and now that does not seem to matter to them as much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    Which is a Noose.



    Functionality Doesn't Matter.

    It was a Hangmans Noose.
    So if I have a door knocker that's is shaped like a bull it must be a real bull huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dadwen View Post
    As I said above I went a couple of pages with three of the people here on the technical definition of things and now that does not seem to matter to them as much.
    Am I one of those three people? If no, why are you arguing with me like I am?


    Can you at least admit that even if it's not technically a noose. It's close enough that anyone that sees it would think of a noose first?
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  13. #333
    Quote Originally Posted by Dadwen View Post
    So if I have a door knocker that's is shaped like a bull it must be a real bull huh?
    What a disingenuous False Equivalence, a Non Functioning Ship is Still a Ship.
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  14. #334
    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    Am I one of those three people? If no, why are you arguing with me like I am?


    Can you at least admit that even if it's not technically a noose. It's close enough that anyone that sees it would think of a noose first?
    a lot of knots can be a noose, even ones that don't look like that on in the picture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noose so unless it works like a noose what they had was not a noose.

  15. #335
    Quote Originally Posted by Dadwen View Post
    a lot of knots can be a noose, even ones that don't look like that on in the picture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noose so unless it works like a noose what they had was not a noose.
    Again, it was clearly stated multiple times that it was a Hangmans Noose.

    so unless it works like a noose what they had was not a noose.
    A Non Functioning Ship is still a ship.

    A poorly made Automobile is still an Automobile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dadwen View Post
    a lot of knots can be a noose, even ones that don't look like that on in the picture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noose so unless it works like a noose what they had was not a noose.
    So you can't even admit that...... smdh....
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  17. #337
    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    Again, it was clearly stated multiple times that it was a Hangmans Noose.



    A Non Functioning Ship is still a ship.
    so what your saying is this is a ship? (and not just a building that looks like a ship).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Cr...sort_%26_Yacht

  18. #338
    Quote Originally Posted by Dadwen View Post
    really in that last tweet it was a garage door pull fashioned like a noose not just a noose.

    Seems they even realized it was not a true noose.
    Again...why does it fucking matter?

  19. #339
    Quote Originally Posted by Dadwen View Post
    so what your saying is this is a ship?
    Are you saying it doesn't look like a Ship?
    A Fetus is not a person under the 14th amendment.

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  20. #340
    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    So you can't even admit that...... smdh....
    I'm just saying if it does not work like a noose, then by definition it is not noose (am I wrong in that?)

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