Yes, I understand that. I was kind of speculating on the idea that, as times go on, there seems to be a trend of this kind of business getting more attention and being more common. Right now, it only applies to a couple of companies like Method, but I'm guessing that soon, we'll be having a lot more.
On the other hand, I think we should start discussing about our in-game relationships on a more serious note. I mean, for a lot of people, games like WoW are not just games anymore. For example, even if you are not getting paid for raiding like Method, there are asymmetrical relationships within a guild. We have roles of authority, guidelines for behaviour, certain sense of obedience and/or subordination...etc. We develop a sense of responsibility, we respect schedules and game hours, we even expect homework from our raiders (like watching videos, learning your class...etc.). So, even in less "formal" groups like Method, we (as a community) should start discussing some issues related to in-game communication and behaviour.
Djarii (Sco's girlfriend) left Method too https://twitter.com/djarii/status/1276484564676993025
There are a bunch of companies that have grown from gamers becoming able to earn their living with a game. I know this also played in League of Legends where before franchising the 2 big teams/companies (CLG and TSM) rose from just some guy sitting behind his desk streaming the game. And they also ran into the trouble that gamers often don't have business educations and they were not prepared for some of the reality that comes from being the head of an actual real business. (note I haven't kept up with LoL in years)
You either learn quickly, hire people who do know or you get burned.
Sooner or later everyone runs into that reality check. This appears to be Methods.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
I was talking about the general public, which is why I said "the common person".
The common person have knowledge and numbers on probabilities when it comes to forensic testings? Hardly...
Seems like you took it personal though, since you talk about people knowing the actual numbers which I assume you do by your own words. So I didn't refer to you if that's what you think...
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Sorry to pick you out specifically for this, but while yes, 'innocent until proven guilty' is something that gets ignored far too often, another well-known one liner that you all seem to forget when typing that is 'Better safe than sorry'. Everything should've been immediately put on hold until an investigation had occurred (like they're doing with Sascha, after-the-fact). I can't find any reason to fault companies/individuals from jumping ship at this time because, honestly, if it happened at my place of work/within my group of friends, I would drop them immediately as well.
Especially with Josh (who I did watch stream highlights from posted by Kungozai on youtube), he got banned from twitch immediately after Poopernoodle's visit and subsequent breakdown on her stream afterwards, which neither of them have publicly spoken about until she revealed what happened during that trip. That should've been enough of a flag to at least temporarily suspend him from participating in RWF events, since they were actively pushing that side of the competition on twitch more and more with a player who technically should've gotten them banned for being there. The other accusations by teenagers are another matter entirely, and should definitely be investigated further by the proper authorities.
Screenshots of a Chat is not Proof, its the same value of whats written in the Post. If you use Screenshots of written Text as Proof, you can just aswell take the word as Undeniable Proof.
What would you think if the Accused would provide the same Screenshots with reversed names? Because that would take like 5 minutes to accomplish.
If you want proof, you need to be a Authorized party and get the Logs from the Platforms involved. Otherwise the Screenshots are worth jack shit.
I´m not against them speaking out, its free speech. But if they seek Justice, and if Justice is to be brought. It has to go to Proper Channels.
I Blame the Hate train going on without any tangible proof. You can be Supportive without causing other Harm.
You know that Professional Football, etc is basically the same?
No, this thread pretty much sums it up, that it doesnt matter if its True or not.
Just alone with the Accusation Methods done, no one even asked if its true, the moment that Tweet came up, the Hate train started.
Yeah.. all this grandstanding from people that are connected to method rings hollow, especially if you are part of method, have close connections to the leadership and were already around when it happened. There is not a snowball's chance in hell that they didn't know what was up. People talk and rumors about the worst shit spread the fastest. It would be more blievable if they were throwing their leadership under the bus in so far as that they didn't want to lose their career and looked the other way because of it.
You are welcome, Metzen. I hope you won't fuck up my underground expansion idea.
So is it true that Sco tried to get Twitch to unban Josh a year+ ago after his initial ban? I'm sure the Twitch rep would have the emails andor correspondence regarding this, if everyone at Method had conveniently forgotten about it...
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