Josh removed from Method, Sascha accused of harassment

[Lei]

Indeed. Method is complicit for knowing about this for years because stories and videos of Josh's behavior have been around for at least 2-3 years.
But the rats like Preach and Djarii leaving the sinking ship now are lauded for taking a stand.

Absolute lmao.

How's preach leaving any sinking ships? He is not affiliated with method (the brand, the company) in any way shape or form. He has ex-guildmates/friends in the guild, and got invited (and paid I suppose) to host world first races.

[Clozer]

So Method is done for? 2 Higher-ups deleted their twitter and a bunch of employees, sponsors and streamers quit. All only because of Josh. Feelsbadmen.

Best of all things LimitMax is vulturing around twitter now. Man this guy must have a hard D right now - disgusting.

[kebabmasterxd]

Josh should of been investigated the 1st time it was bought to their attention. SCO not doing anything just to protect him cost him Method now.

I wonder how SCO's girlfriend will react to him now, defending these actions is not i would want from a partner.

[Lahis]

All Sponsors have dropped Method.

[Yarathir]

Preach was never under the Method umbrella. He was an outside contractor who came in and did stuff like the world first race. He said on his stream earlier today Method wanted him to come aboard, but he refused and wanted to stay independent.

He was never 'on the ship' to begin with. And he goes into detail on last few streams about how he repeatedly asked Method about Josh and how he doesnt believe their response now that 'nobody knew'. Hence why he dis-associated from working with them again.

Kind of besides the point. He was associated with Method and when Method burned down, pretended he knew of nothing and made his little speech about how horrendous it is to save his own ass.

[Krakan]

Just because evidence doesn't rise to the level of enabling a court case doesn't mean a company should allow itself to be associated with a person.

hence why Twitch saw no reason to unban him.
And yes I can understand Sco wanting to help his 'bro' but he is also the head of a business, a business hat is suffering as a result of that now.

Guilty until proven innocent or trial via mob are less revolutionary ideas then you believe they are...

[kamuimac]

Josh should of been investigated the 1st time it was bought to their attention. SCO not doing anything just to protect him cost him Method now.

I wonder how SCO's girlfriend will react to him now, defending these actions is not i would want from a partner.

lol and you belive she didnt know ?

jezus those doublestandards in treating women and men - sco is devil , djari didnt know ofc she didnt ofc

[Lei]

Kind of besides the point. He was associated with Method and when Method burned down, pretended he knew of nothing and made his little speech about how horrendous it is to save his own ass.

You are hilarious, please keep writing about this thoughttrain of yours, it's really entertaining.

[KaPe]

Kind of besides the point. He was associated with Method and when Method burned down, pretended he knew of nothing and made his little speech about how horrendous it is to save his own ass.

By your logic, every single caster that took part in World First Race is guilty, not just Preach. Because, somehow, they were supposed to deal with Method's issues by themselves, instead of expecting the actual management to do its' damn job.

Do your not realize how stupid this is? Do you think all this was happening in the open while Preach&co were watching and not giving a damn? When you're dealing with a multi million dollar company, you expect it will handle its' own shit. You're not responsible for said company trying to sweep all the garbage under the rug - and probably lying to people they were working with.

And what about Method's sponsors? Shouldn't they be way worse than Preach? After all, they were *giving* money to Method, letting the whole thing stay afloat. But no, you're just fixated on this one person.

[Yarathir]

By your logic, every single caster that took part in World First Race is guilty, not just Preach. Because, somehow, they were supposed to deal with Method's issues by themselves, instead of expecting the actual management to do its' damn job.

Do your not realize how stupid this is? Do you think all this was happening in the open while Preach&co were watching and not giving a damn? When you're dealing with a multi million dollar company, you expect it will handle its' own shit. You're not responsible for said company trying to sweep all the garbage under the rug.

And what about Method's sponsors? Shouldn't they be way worse than Preach? After all, they were *giving* money to Method, letting the whole thing stay afloat. But no, you're just fixated on this one person.

That's legitimately not what I said.

I'm saying that if you're holding Method as a whole complicit for not doing anything earlier, then the people who were associated with Method, knowing that there's been stuff floating about Josh for years, are also to be held responsible, not applauded, for only taking a stand when it all came crashing down.

And I'm sorry you feel like I'm bullying your favorite e-celeb. Preach was just an example, but it applies to anybody grandstanding right now. I also mentioned Djarii. So yeah, the sponsors, too.

Seems like you're the one who's fixated on Preach.

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You are hilarious, please keep writing about this thoughttrain of yours, it's really entertaining.

Thanks!

[Krakan]

That's legitimately not what I said.

I'm saying that if you're holding Method as a whole complicit for not doing anything earlier, then the people who were associated with Method, knowing that there's been stuff floating about Josh for years, are also to be held responsible, not applauded, for only taking a stand when it all came crashing down.

And I'm sorry you feel like I'm bullying your favorite e-celeb. Preach was just an example, but it applies to anybody grandstanding right now. I also mentioned Djarii. So yeah, the sponsors, too.

Seems like you're the one who's fixated on Preach.

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Thanks!

This varies greatly on what was known... rumors alone are just rumors.

I'm not terribly invested in the situation but I do feel you should be innocent until proven guilty.

[Yarathir]

This varies greatly on what was known... rumors alone are just rumors.

I'm not terribly invested in the situation but I do feel you should be innocent until proven guilty.

I'm fairly sure they were more than rumors.

People have been saying for ages that Josh did a bunch of weird shit. This stuff has been going on for at least 3 years and I don't believe the Method-adjacent crew wasn't aware of it. For them to only now voice their disgust about it is logical to save their own asses, but not laudable.

The same argument can be made for sponsors, though the thing there is that sponsors are generally pretty faceless. But yes, the same goes for them.

[Nurmat]

Stop using "Method Dungeon Tools"

[LanToaster]

You seem to not understand how timestamps work, which are also clearly visible in most screen shots.

A Timestamp is nothing more than a specific time. All that proofs is that there are timestamps.

They would be of help to verify if these Messages where indeed send. But this is something we cant do.

And again, it's not difficult to tell if a photo has been manipulated.

Are you talking about a Photo? Or a Screenshot?

These Screenshots are by default modified, because there are several ChatLogs in one Picture. And no, if a Picture is Modified its very very hard to see if its Modified without the Original Image.

And when you look at the Images from the Anni post, the JPG conversion is so terrible, you cant even compare it to the Original Screenshot.

And again, you think dozens of people would fake hundreds of screenshots? Without anyone being able to point out how they're fake?

We are talking about two people here. And yea strikes me as Odd that suddenly so many people pop up. But lets go into detail a bit:

The whole thing with Anni, while it may be inappropriate what Sascha did, its nowhere near a crime, and no matter whats up with the Screenshots, nothing happend. She wasnt forced into anything she didnt like, she was felt her boss was Inapropriate and left the Company. I dont see anything here that warrents anykind of Hate.

Going to the Josh case. Apart from him Hitting on her like an Idiot, to which she said: "Was no Harm", there is no "Screenshot Evidence" which you seem to believe of him doing anything other things that would fall under a Crime.

So, where is your hard evidence for "asking for Child Porn", even though, I dunno where he comes from, but there are countrys where asking a 16 year old is not a crime.

And I repeat myself:
If any of those two commited a Crime, and these "Screenshots" would be submitted as Evidence, they could actually Verify that easily.
Ergo: That they dont go to the Police, and dont press Charges tells alot in my Book.

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Stop using "Method Dungeon Tools"

Why? Does that make the Addon worse?

[Kumorii]

Stop using "Method Dungeon Tools"

Is there an equivalent?

[Lei]

I'm fairly sure they were more than rumors.

People have been saying for ages that Josh did a bunch of weird shit. This stuff has been going on for at least 3 years and I don't believe the Method-adjacent crew wasn't aware of it. For them to only now voice their disgust about it is logical to save their own asses, but not laudable.

The same argument can be made for sponsors, though the thing there is that sponsors are generally pretty faceless. But yes, the same goes for them.

Now you are changing your argument. You were talking about preach, which was wrong, you were called out for it, now you are sludging him together with method people.
Glad you thought it through.

[Bumkin]

Josh should of been investigated the 1st time it was bought to their attention. SCO not doing anything just to protect him cost him Method now.

I wonder how SCO's girlfriend will react to him now, defending these actions is not i would want from a partner.

stop being a simp, it will get u nowhere in life, it will definately not get u any girls, grow up and become a real man

[LanToaster]

I'm saying that if you're holding Method as a whole complicit for not doing anything earlier, then the people who were associated with Method, knowing that there's been stuff floating about Josh for years, are also to be held responsible, not applauded, for only taking a stand when it all came crashing down.

And I'm sorry you feel like I'm bullying your favorite e-celeb. Preach was just an example, but it applies to anybody grandstanding right now. I also mentioned Djarii. So yeah, the sponsors, too.

Seems like you're the one who's fixated on Preach.

Well, now you expect alot of ability to thought process from the average Person.

[Yarathir]

Now you are changing your argument. You were talking about preach, which was wrong, you were called out for it, now you are sludging him together with method people.
Glad you thought it through.

You can just say "I'm upset you mentioned Preach as an example alongside Djarii and now I'm hyperfocused on defending Preach."

[Hellobolis]

There's actually not really leeway when it comes to being a boss and being appropriate around your employees. It's a powder keg waiting to erupt.

by that logic the mistake was already made when booking a b&b instead of a hotel with overbooking/accident insurance.

like honestly it's just getting too far fetched man, especially for small sized companies.