The Alliance gets the Horde's most popular race. The Horde should get the Alliance's most popular race in return. Alteraci Humans for the Horde!
I make Warcraft 3 Reforged HD custom models and I'm also an HD model reviewer.
The story ABSOLUTELY matters, otherwise they wouldn't bother having news articles online for advertising expansions based on it and whatnot.
This is partly true, but a big reason a lot of people like Garrosh is because Blizz kept telling us that he'd improve and mature, and then he... didn't.
Twas brillig
I’m not saying it doesn’t matter, nor implying it. I think Blizzard responds to feedback in small ways, with lesser characters and the like; but I believe when you have a group of writers who have passionate ideas and they invest a lot of time and effort, on Blizzard’s dime no less, I don’t think they would make sweeping changes to the story unless a huge portion of the player base was bombarding them with constant feedback. Which despite the passion displayed in this forum and other places, I don’t believe is occurring.
But let me be honest and cynical; I think given today’s cancel culture cancer that infests social media, it would not surprise me if something was changed to appease that particular mob, no matter the actual size. Which is completely different than using feedback based on how we see the Horde and Alliance in game.
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That is what I was trying to say.
"Can't you see this is the last act of a desperate man?"
"We don't care if it's the first act of Henry the Fifth, we're leaving!"
Mnor tidbit - you care about highborns, not Night Elves. What made those great in Warcraft III was actually the exact opposite of what you want for them. I'd hate for Night Elves to be even more gutted than they are, by becoming inferior versions of BE and NB...
And frankly, at this point, I don't give a fuck about the division. I'd just love the parts of the Alliance who wants war with the Horde, no matter the means or costs to be propped up by the story like Garrosh/Sylvanas loyalists were, even if I know the costs of it. One can only be beaten only to be put in his cage so many times, after all...
Oh, just be quiet and help us defeat Sylvanas and the Jailer. *Gives Sword* We need ya, soldier.
I could always just challenge Danuser to Mok’gora and save us all. Trust me. It would be better for everyone
Basically wow goes like this...
Alliance and Horde fight until oh crap! The big bad guy shows up then they team up and win. Then LETS FIGHT AGAIN!. Until the next big bad guy shows up and there is a need to team up.
The horde and alliance have teamed up to fight The Lich King, Deathwing, the Sha, the Legion, An Old God or two, and heal Azeroth. Up next is the need to fight against the Jailor/Sylvanis (maybe?)
The back and forth we're stronger together if we team up to fight whatever and then once that is over let's just fight! Is kinda illogical and repetitive.
Blizzard really needs to figure out how to mix up that cycle. I'm not sure if it's breaking the factions apart and re-forming them. Adding another faction but allowing you to team up with anyone and everyone if you want.
I think it is easy to write. Just put some peaceful idiot in charge and make people similar to Sylvanas plot in shadows. Is it that hard?
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Says person with a high elf on avatar.
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I both want united Azeroth and fall of the Alliance.
The problem with that is it makes the person in charge look incompetent for not reigning in people like Sylv.
The best way is to make it so people who plot in the shadows friendlier with those in charge, and the conflict with the other faction *serious* but closer to a cold war.
Twas brillig
"Cancel Culture" is overstated, but yes I agree that we should see a stronger push from players to see their concerns addressed in the narrative.
Nothing we're asking for should even conflict that much with what the writers want to do.
Is it unreasonable for players to want a roster of characters for their faction? To be shown to be good at the things we're TOLD our faction or race is supposed to be good at?
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There could be peace but that doesn't solve resource scarcity, that doesn't solve territorial or religious conflicts, there are plenty of things that could bring the factions into REGIONAL conflict or subtler cloak and dagger conflicts.
There's also PROXY wars, like say, if the Night Elves agreed to the treaty... but decided to push a lot of the Centaur and Quillboar and Such to fight the Horde indirectly? But then some don't like being manipulated by the nelfs and shack up with the Horde? Etc...
There are lots of ways the factions can be in conflict without it escalating to TOTAL WAR OF ANNIHILATION BLOW UP CAPITAL CITIES RABBLE RABBLE
Twas brillig
And what makes you say that? I play a druid, I main one, and I defended the druidic culture of the night elves for the first 10 years of wow (6 on MMO champion) no one challenges the forest nature and love of the night elves any more, i had to argue against people who didn't think it was a real or serious thing.
I don't need to do that, but people nowadays, don't know knight elf lore, they have no idea, they make incorrect statements about night elves and the arcane, and I respond to them, - does that mean all I care about is Highborne? Or does that mean what I actually care bout is the truth, and the actual facts about the night elves?
If people keep challenging only the arcane lore but no longer the nature lore, what are most of my responses going to be based on? If they accepted it, I would only need to say it once, without a challenge there would be no further responses, and you'd not even be aware of what I liked, because it would be a non-issue with zero discussion. But that's not the case is it.
I can assure you , I'm not gutting night elves, my view on them is what they have been presented as, it's not my fault if you interpreted the heavy discussions on the arcane and Highborne as meaning that I want the night elves to become 100% Highborne and that's all I care about. I can only say, it is not, I wan the night elves to remain night elves, not become fully forest elves, or fully dark elves, and I don't want the existence of the Nightborne replacing their dark elf side either, because it's part of their identity - but players are going to make these mistakes because they don't know the lore, and they don't care, but if they discuss them on a forum where I notice, I'm gonna respond, even if it makes me look like I all care about concerning night elves is Highborne. It isn't, and that's the truth.
It displeases me to see so many erroneous assumptions, and wrong lore, worse is that High elves are the Highborne that replace the Night elves when they are their own group /race of no longer Highborne, but high/blood elves -being descendants, actual Highborne are night elves, and they're still around and all their lore is part of the Night elf lore, contrary to what they think, it is not annexed from the night elf or created only for the high elves - and explaining that sometimes takes time, because you have to take them through the lore and the history. This may make it seem like I only care about Highborne. Not the case.
I think generally a lack of people who care about the lore and a long-form reduction of expectations with respect to media generally and a complete lack of any expectations from WoW specifically will make this a tall order.
Well, they want the horde to be the alliance and the alliance to be Anduin's fanclub so yeah what people seem to want and what the writers want appear to be in conflict.
Blizzard has "skated" by since day one of making their own games. They have always been gameplay first story second, and within the story component, the rule of cool takes precedent.
So tired of listening to you chicken littles nostalgia crooners claiming things were so much better back then when their stories have been shit the entire time.