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I guess, we will see. He is the most involved titanwatcher there is, in regards to the shadow realm. Wouldn't be surprised, if he appears in the middle of the SL expansion at all.The first Val'kyr was Helya, a titan-forged sorceress who was the adopted daughter of Keeper Odyn. Odyn, having disagreed with the creation of the Dragon Aspects, offered vrykul warriors who died in glorious combat to become part of his Valarjar. To take the spirits of these departed vrykul from the Shadowlands and into the Halls of Valor, Odyn transformed Helya into a Val'kyr, against her will, which would ultimately cause her to rebel against Odyn with the aid of Loken. Odyn's inspiration for the Val'kyr were the Kyrian, which he saw when he gazed into the Shadowlands.
Ra-Den just appeared in 8.3. near the end of SL, so...?
Some names need to fill the contents of 9.2. and 9.3 and they better have something to do with the SL.
Obviously, tho, blizz could pull out another Mechagon patch, non-releated to the expansions overall theme, too. Nobody can, tell but i am pretty sure Odyn will make some sort of appearance, as Helya is confirmed.
As many have already said, the Jailer. I will be pissed off if they turn it into Sylvanas though. They need to stop the shit writing of her being a villain or doing evil things.
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All wrong we kill Sylvanas and beat the Jailer and Bolvar takes the jailers place forever becoming "The jailer of the damned".
Not unless Odyn corrupts all Titan Keepers and make them into a council type raid boss. Loken in SL, either slaying his fellow keepers bringing along their souls into the maw and soul binds them. We would definitely see Ra-den in SL by a slightly high margin of chance if we did slay him during Nya'lotha.
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which is why I said "They need to stop the shit writing of her being a villain or doing evil things." Blizzard has this theme going on that if they can't write a good plot to unite the Horde & Alliance to fight against some greater evil they just make her do something and makes it into this huge "morally grey" shitshow.
I'd argue that she hasn't always been a villain, but she has been pretty consistently "Evil" alignment since 2004. Cata just ramped it to 11 and then BFA just fell off a cliff on fire.
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Even if they stopped now, it wouldn't matter. It's way too late. Too many terrible decisions are linked to her character, too many deeds are heinous enough to require a pretty significant punishment to be narrative satisfaction to a big cross-section of the player base. Even for people who like them, any outcome where they suddenly grow a conscience would ring extremely hollow and jarring after all of this.
Best thing to hope for is for her to get locked up in the Maw rather than outright killed so if they want, they can Illidan her a few years later.
Helya is also linked with the Jailer in a similar manner of which Sylvanas is. We're on our own, from this point on. Odyn's way out of our range of communication for now.
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1. He did find us worthy. What the fuck? Dude, play Legion.
2. Odyn has literally NO way to come into the Shadowlands. Not in the same way as Helya, at least. The last time he PEERED into the Shadowlands, it costed him his eye. And no, the rift currently above our skies doesn't guarantee free entry. Ya have to use the Helm of Domination shards for that. Something of which only WE have.
3. "In any case he seems deeply involved for a titan watcher with SL, he must be an encounter in one way or another, or at least assist us as a NPC." After slaying N'Zoth, Argus, a Void corrupted Ra'den, etc. Why would ODYN be a threat?
4. "Helya is confirmed for SL?" Odyn's story against her is done though. He's a free man, doing his own thing. Helya is OUR problem, and our problem only.
That has nothing to do with anything I typed?
I think you're overfocusing on Yogg. He's really charismatic and a lot of the Old Gods were wasted, but their stories are effectively done for now. Back later? Absolutely. But probably as a quirky miniboss squad for a Void-centric expansion. The Jailer is being set up as a completely new character. Same with the overfixation on Argus. If the Shadowlands predates the Titans, Argus can't have a lot of alignment with it as a core setting.
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World of Warcraft, Patch 9.3: The Revenge of Scrollsage Nola.
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