9.0 General Discussion

[tristannarutofan]

This one is ridiculous too:

Venthyr - Nadjia the Mistblade

- Dauntless Duelist : The first enemy you damage in combat is marked as your Adversary. You deal 4% more damage to them, and they deal 2% less damage to you. You may only have one Adversary at a time.

- Thrill Seeker : While in combat, you gain a stack of Thrill Seeker every 2 sec, or 4 stacks on killing an enemy. At 40 stacks Thrill Seeker is consumed to grant you Euphoria, speeding up everything you do by 20% for 10 sec. Thrill Seeker decays rapidly while you are not in combat.

With this and the main covenant ability Venthyr is just stupidly OP in PvE compared to the other covenants.

So...1 enemy u have. a 6% advantaye on and the other u get the weakest cooldown buff for half the time ( most class buffs are 30%, and last 15 to 30 seconds. An uncontrolled 20% buff for 10 seconds every 80 seconds , isnnt much)

[Raetary]

Honestly, I would argue that this is more useful seeing as weapons breaking in the middle of a M+ run is just as aggravating each time. Removing that possibilty is always nice.

Can't you just use the mammoth or yak to repair?

[tristannarutofan]

And then there are other traits which are just universally useless, pointless and idk why they even exist.

Like


I mean lol.

Woo, my repair cost is down 50 gold.
Hooray.

"This thing is useless all it does is something usefull"

Those utility ones arent suppose to be game breaking just a little fun flavor. U are in good with the master at arms? Your weapon is indestrictible. Like the guy who sends u flowers every day

[Sondrelk]

This one is ridiculous too:

Venthyr - Nadjia the Mistblade

- Dauntless Duelist : The first enemy you damage in combat is marked as your Adversary. You deal 4% more damage to them, and they deal 2% less damage to you. You may only have one Adversary at a time.

- Thrill Seeker : While in combat, you gain a stack of Thrill Seeker every 2 sec, or 4 stacks on killing an enemy. At 40 stacks Thrill Seeker is consumed to grant you Euphoria, speeding up everything you do by 20% for 10 sec. Thrill Seeker decays rapidly while you are not in combat.

With this and the main covenant ability Venthyr is just stupidly OP in PvE compared to the other covenants.

Well damn, not to mention the General Draven one that gives your class ability an extra 10% versatility buff to you and 4% to 4 nearby allies each time you use it. It is like that covenant was designed to be OP in M+. Just imagine full Venthyr teams potentially having a near constant 26% versatility buff.

Hopefully we see some nerfs to that covenant eventually. I don't mind some variance in effectiveness, but this s getting ridiculous unless there is some as of yet unseen mechanic that makes it less efective than initially thought.

[tristannarutofan]

Can't you just use the mammoth or yak to repair?

U cant summon mounts indoors.

And the weak flavor soulbinds arent suppose to be strong

[Sondrelk]

Can't you just use the mammoth or yak to repair?

Some dungeons are indoors, and if I am the kind of person that forgets to always repair gear right before starting a run, what makes you think I am the kind of person that remembers to restock on repair tools?


Besides, 50 gold is not a lot, but if you raid more than once a week or do a reasonable amount of M+ this would save you quite a lot over time. Not just because the weapon is the most expensive item to repair. Over the course of the expansion this could potentially save you thousands of gold.

[tristannarutofan]

Well damn, not to mention the General Draven one that gives your class ability an extra 10% versatility buff to you and 4% to 4 nearby allies each time you use it. It is like that covenant was designed to be OP in M+. Just imagine full Venthyr teams potentially having a near constant 26% versatility buff.

Hopefully we see some nerfs to that covenant eventually. I don't mind some variance in effectiveness, but this s getting ridiculous unless there is some as of yet unseen mechanic that makes it less efective than initially thought.

I dont see why theyd make it stack. If u are that soulbind too, you prob get a max of 10% or 14%.

Other covenants have buffs too and literally all they have to do is tweak the numbers

[Sondrelk]

I dont see why theyd make it stack. If u are that soulbind too, you prob get a max of 10% or 14%.

Other covenants have buffs too and literally all they have to do is tweak the numbers

Probably not, but 10-14% versatility is still a significant amount. Especially given that it is not a proc or tied to a cooldown that is constant over the various classes but instead has a variable one that potentially means that you could have insanely high uptime.
I mean, all it takes is for one of the classes to have a 30 second cooldown on their class ability and that player has a 33% uptime on an ability that gives you 10% exta damage, not to mention the rest of the party having 33% uptime on the 4% buff. Combine this with several players having a similar short cooldown and you could easily maneuver your cooldown usage in such a way that you have 100% uptime on that buff.

[FlemmMinis]

Made from the milk of polymorphed prisoners in the Violet Hold. Polymorph them into sheep and cows and then milk them!

That's nasty and genius at the same time.

[Raetary]

Made from the milk of polymorphed prisoners in the Violet Hold. Polymorph them into sheep and cows and then milk them!

Right, from now on i'm not eating any mage food anymore.

[Lahis]

Made from the milk of polymorphed prisoners in the Violet Hold. Polymorph them into sheep and cows and then milk them!

How long does a prisonner need to stay polymorphed before you can milk them? Can you just do it right after you transform them, or do you need to feed them and wait for them to process the milk first?

[FlemmMinis]

Maybe that's what Jaina did with all those blood elves

Don't ist deviantart hear this.

[Makabreska]

Some dungeons are indoors, and if I am the kind of person that forgets to always repair gear right before starting a run, what makes you think I am the kind of person that remembers to restock on repair tools?


Besides, 50 gold is not a lot, but if you raid more than once a week or do a reasonable amount of M+ this would save you quite a lot over time. Not just because the weapon is the most expensive item to repair. Over the course of the expansion this could potentially save you thousands of gold.

If you are the type of guy that constantly keeps forgetting about repairing/bringing hammers, then you didn't prepare for the run properly, and no trait should fix that. Beside, it's weapon only. You break any other gear piece and you also get a big stat drop, that makes it nigh impossible to play. And regarding cost, it's simply part of the price of doing PvE. Plus, any half-decent guild would offer grepairs. So ye, overall veeeeery weak trait, borderline useless actually.

[huth]

How long does a prisonner need to stay polymorphed before you can milk them? Can you just do it right after you transform them, or do you need to feed them and wait for them to process the milk first?

Just make sure you use female prisoners...

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Probably not, but 10-14% versatility is still a significant amount. Especially given that it is not a proc or tied to a cooldown that is constant over the various classes but instead has a variable one that potentially means that you could have insanely high uptime.
I mean, all it takes is for one of the classes to have a 30 second cooldown on their class ability and that player has a 33% uptime on an ability that gives you 10% exta damage, not to mention the rest of the party having 33% uptime on the 4% buff. Combine this with several players having a similar short cooldown and you could easily maneuver your cooldown usage in such a way that you have 100% uptime on that buff.

That one will likely get a "can only occur every x minutes".

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and you didn't een quoted the actual OP ones from the venthyr which is more hilarious.
Everyone knew venthyr were gonna end up top.

I don't get why everybody talks about Draven. Have you seen Theotar? Free Transmog!

Oh, and he makes your teleport instant and gives you a Cheat Death. I suppose that's helpful too.

[Fahrad Wagner]

What about arcane butter?

I can't believe it's conjured butter.

Made from the milk of polymorphed prisoners in the Violet Hold. Polymorph them into sheep and cows and then milk them!

Now ladies, you have my attention. Tell me more about that arcane butter thou speakest of...

[gunner_recall]

And then there are other traits which are just universally useless, pointless and idk why they even exist.

Like


I mean lol.

Woo, my repair cost is down 50 gold.
Hooray.

Eh, it's less useful but not useless plus I think some of the abilities are just supposed to be sort of...whatever.

Like they can't all be bangers.

Now ladies, you have my attention. Tell me more about that arcane butter thou speakest of...

See? Not so crazy now, am I?

[Fahrad Wagner]

See? Not so crazy now, am I?

Well, the polymorphed inmates butter really DOES make all the difference.

Also, it's another day without alpha and without beards for trolls. Sad.

[gunner_recall]

Well, the polymorphed inmates butter really DOES make all the difference.

Also, it's another day without alpha and without beards for trolls. Sad.

Even just one troll beard would be better than nothing.

God, I wish the Venthyr ability wasn't booty for mages. Their soulbinds look absurdly strong, now that I'm going through them.

The first enemy you damage in combat is marked as your Adversary. You deal 4% more damage to them, and they deal 2% less damage to you. You may only have one Adversary at a time.

This is absurd.

The benefits of Well Fed, Flask, and weapon enchant effects are increased by 15%.

bb pls

[Edoll]

Even just one troll beard would be better than nothing.

God, I wish the Venthyr ability wasn't booty for mages. Their soulbinds look absurdly strong, now that I'm going through them.


This is absurd.

bb pls

Well that is how Blizzard says they’ll balance the covenants (they actually won’t), give one strong soulbinds and crappy abilities, and another crappy binds and strong abilities.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Well that is how Blizzard says they’ll balance the covenants (they actually won’t), give one strong soulbinds and crappy abilities, and another crappy binds and strong abilities.

...They just came out, thats what feedback is for. Declaring they won't is foolish.