Star Wars: John Favreau's Sequel Retcon Rumors [Discussion]

[Clone]

Lol Leia is probably going to be a stronk female character who needs no man and does everything herself. Luke will become a beta cuck.

So just like in the original trilogy.

More gratuitous scenes of Vader murdering everybody. Ewoks will be replaced with Wookies.

The way the good lord intended.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

I don't know. Being fucking toxic to any member of the staff that has come out against the movies (Like John and JJ) seems bad. But, I'm not surprised you don't find issue with that. You agree with their toxicity.

It feels guaranteed you agreed with the idiots that called Jar Jar racist and gave him hell in his life.

To quote my self.

You can also go back to any Starwars thread where it’s been brought up I’ve always been against any hate and toxicity directed towards the people involved in Starwars

I’ve also haven’t ever thought Star Wars had a race problem not with jar jar or any other alien people say are racial stereotypes.

But most of all I don’t care about creators out side of there art. If Lucas was a full blown SS wearing nazi I couldn’t care less as long as starwar still came out the same. I haven’t ever gone after an artist because I take Issue with there art Or with them as a person.

[Scathan]

Attempting to derail threads and discussing forbidden topics isn't allowed. Infracted.

Give me a break. Moderators are such crap here it's crazy. lmao forbidden topics. fascists.

[Jotaux]

It’s true they shouldn’t cater to toxic “fans” that pretend the new movies were good but a reboot is just dumb. Move on to new stories set in the past or future, the skywalker saga has already been damaged beyond repair.

[Skulltaker]

I’ve also haven’t ever thought Star Wars had a race problem not with jar jar or any other alien people say are racial stereotypes.
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You're aware of the fact that Neimoidians have an accent according to whom is the localized versions enemy nr.1, so, Japanese in the US, French in German, German in French, German in Russia, German in the UK version...

[Jotaux]

Give me a break. Moderators are such crap here it's crazy. lmao forbidden topics. fascists.

Yeah I reread that twice trying to see what was infractionable... it’s not surprising I’ve been infracted for saying “so you’re bad at jokes?”

[Lorgar Aurelian]

You're aware of the fact that Neimoidians have an accent according to whom is the localized versions enemy nr.1, so, Japanese in the US, French in German, German in French, German in Russia, German in the UK version...

Can’t say I did know that as I don’t think I’ve ever looked into how any movie changes things based on region. But still I can’t say I take issue with it.

[PaladinSum]

To quote my self.

I’ve also haven’t ever thought Star Wars had a race problem not with jar jar or any other alien people say are racial stereotypes.

But most of all I don’t care about creators out side of there art. If Lucas was a full blown SS wearing nazi I couldn’t care less as long as starwar still came out the same. I haven’t ever gone after an artist because I take Issue with there art Or with them as a person.

To also quote you

Reylo people are just as toxic as any other subset of toxic fans the only difference is that reylo people don’t seem to have actually effected any one yet unlike other toxic fans

Already happening. You don't care.

Listen. It's fine if you want to pretend people not liking things ruined everything and not declining quality.
Oh wait. Nothing is bad because it made money. Including the prequels.

[Skulltaker]

Can’t say I did know that as I don’t think I’ve ever looked into how any movie changes things based on region. But still I can’t say I take issue with it.

Well, you do you, it remains wildly racist.

[PaladinSum]

Well, you do you, it remains wildly racist.

If those are racist, a bunch of those aliens at the casino in TLJ are hella racist.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

To also quote you



Already happening. You don't care.

Listen. It's fine if you want to pretend people not liking things ruined everything and not declining quality.
Oh wait. Nothing is bad because it made money. Including the prequels.

Those two statements don’t counteract each other.

When talking about damage done to the franchise or the people involved in it reylo fans Being toxic doesn’t seem to have had any major effect but as I put in that post that could change as how people are effected doesn’t always come out instantly like with jar jar who didn’t talk about it until years later.

Saying a subset of toxic fans haven’t had a visible effect yet that we know of isn’t supporting them.

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Well, you do you, it remains wildly racist.

Not really contesting that just saying I don’t really take issue with it. It’s like when people say goblins Are suppose to represent Jews it might be true but I can’t say I take any issue with the way goblins Are portrayed of thing that use them that way.

[PaladinSum]

Those two statements don’t counteract each other.

When talking about damage done to the franchise or the people involved in it reylo fans Being toxic doesn’t seem to have had any major effect but as I put in that post that could change as how people are effected doesn’t always come out instantly like with jar jar who didn’t talk about it until years later.

Saying a subset of toxic fans haven’t had a visible effect yet that we know of isn’t supporting them.

You know what? I came at this wrong.

Disney damaged the franchise. Bad decisions, antagonizing fans, likening dislike to bigotry. That damaged the franchise. Not people being idiots online. Disney running the seri

I mean. It's not like you're claiming that being toxic is a problem while claiming a group of people being toxic aren't an issue.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

You know what? I came at this wrong.

Disney damaged the franchise. Bad decisions, antagonizing fans, likening dislike to bigotry. That damaged the franchise. Not people being idiots online. Disney running the seri

I mean. It's not like you're claiming that being toxic is a problem while claiming a group of people being toxic aren't an issue.

You could say Disney damned the movie portion of Starwars sure but ah impotent thing to keep in kind is that Disney only got there hands on the franchise because toxic fans drove Lucas out of it.

I also haven’t said a group of people being toxic isn’t an issue all toxicity is an issue I’ve said that they don’t they don’t seem to have done any meaningful damage we can see as of yet.

It’s like a bomb, all bombs are an issue But if you set off a bomb in an area with nothing in it then it does does less damage then a bomb set off in a area filled with people. There might be after effects that happen due to the bomb set off in the empty area and we just haven’t seen them yet.

[Beet]

Hamil, Ford, and Fisher won't show up. Nor will the likeness of their characters in CGI.

Next thing on the corporate film franchise docket: reboots! They're gonna remake the original trilogy within the next ten years, with new actors. And it will be shit. Lol Leia is probably going to be a stronk female character who needs no man and does everything herself. Luke will become a beta cuck. More gratuitous scenes of Vader murdering everybody. Ewoks will be replaced with Wookies. SUBVERSION! Post-modernist nihilism like in TLJ and modern politicking. Expect a gay character. The media shills will praise it as high art and it will get 95% from the critics on rotten tomatoes. The dissenters will be demonized as "entitled bigots" and user scores on rotten tomatoes will be deleted for the first couple of weeks. The movies will do okay with a new generation who had never grown up with the Lucas films and the old fans will be too old to bother talking online or pointing the new generation to the old films and the EU.

I don't care if the sequel trilogy is retconned out or not. Disney has revealed where their heart lies: it's all about the money. Money, money, money. If they retcon the ST away, it's only because they think they will get more money by trying to "win back the fans". It's like when they uncancelled Clone Wars; not because they give a damn but because they're trying to bring up franchise revenue by "winning back the fans". But their hearts haven't changed. They don't care about Star Wars. They don't care about the community like George Lucas did.

Say what you will about George Lucas, but he gave a damn about his name. He had integrity. After George released RotJ, George was tired of Star Wars, but he still gave a damn about the people who loved Star Wars, so he allowed other creators to give their takes on Star Wars. Thus, we got the Expanded Universe and hundreds of Star Wars games. Lucas didn't sit back and let other people throw shit at the wall and milk the IP dry; Lucasfilm carefully curated each book and game to make sure that fans were getting a good, quality Star Wars thing. Even when movies hadn't been produced for almost two decades, the Star Wars franchise prospered, and the community was happy.

Disney has had the property for eight years now, and look at what they have done. They canceled Clone Wars. They discarded the beloved EU that had been carefully built for the past twenty years, all in the name of "freeing them up for new ideas"... only to then shittily rehash the Original Trilogy. Kathleen Kennedy even had the gall to say that "creating the sequel trilogy is hard because we don't have a library of story ideas to draw upon". They completely botch their trilogy, not even bothering to make sure that they had an overarching story outline, with Abrams making crap up without bothering to figure out how it'd be answered, Rian coming in and trampling everything to the point that Colin Trevorrow threw his hands up. After Disney served their fans shit, they then called the fans "entitled, sexist bigots" for not liking shit. SHIT IS SHIT! The number of Star Wars video games has slowed down to an abysmal trickle. Disney sold the exclusive rights to make Star Wars video games to EA, who have only made... three Star Wars games. Two of which were half-assed remakes of older games to capitalize on brand recognition and were stuffed with predatory microtransactions (imagine that happening in a $60 Star Wars game released while George Lucas was in charge).

Disney bought Marvel when it was bankrupt, and the quality of the Marvel has not improved since. The only good Marvel has done for Disney is give it the rights to milk characters onscreen that gen Y and Xers are nostalgic for.



Star Wars is dead folks. It's been dead for eight years, and it's never coming back. Everything after 2012 is high budget shitty fan fiction. You need to let it go and move on with your life. It's important to look at things that aren't Star Wars. Read books, manga, and watch anime. Books are so cheap and easy to make that there are great reads out there in the sheer amount of books there are, more than you can possibly read. Movies cost so much money to make that by the time they reach the theaters, they've been stripped of all originality in order to play it safe and make their money back. A lot of books take ten hours to read. Five bad movies make you angry. One good book makes you happy.

There are hundreds and hundreds of amazing space opera fiction to read. Read the Combat Frame XSeeD or the Honor Harrington series. Read Dune. Read manga and anime. There are hundreds of space opera anime and mangas. Watch Legend of the Galactic Heroes (watch My Conquest is the Sea of Stars, then Overture to the New War, and then watch the 110 episode series) and Gundam. Here, I will even give you a guide to help get you started. I personally recommend either starting with the original show (if you can stand the old animation), Gundam Wing, or Gundam Iron-Blooded Orphans).

Here is a fanart to get you enticed to try out the epic, the AMAZING Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans! Hell the very title of the show says that you are in for a wild ride! Watch it subbed or dubbed!

Attempting to derail threads and discussing forbidden topics isn't allowed. Infracted.

Bahahaha I just had to say this cracked me up. Not your post really, but that it was infracted for being a FORBIDDEN TOPIC! Thou mustn’t anger thy MMO-C mods by speaking thy forbidden topics.

[Kallisto]

Frankly, I think Disney's best bet is to try to re-canonize the Extended Universe (in so much as they can, without conflicting with their new lore), and focus entirely on fleshing out the period between the Original Trilogy and the sequel trilogy (which *seems* to be the case with The Mandalorian).

The EU was never canon. Lucas was quite clear on that when he was in charge. Disney according to the writers who made the EU books pretty much openly stated the whole legends thing changed nothing in their canonicity from their pov.

[PaladinSum]

You could say Disney damned the movie portion of Starwars sure but ah impotent thing to keep in kind is that Disney only got there hands on the franchise because toxic fans drove Lucas out of it.

I also haven’t said a group of people being toxic isn’t an issue all toxicity is an issue I’ve said that they don’t they don’t seem to have done any meaningful damage we can see as of yet.

It’s like a bomb, all bombs are an issue But if you set off a bomb in an area with nothing in it then it does does less damage then a bomb set off in a area filled with people. There might be after effects that happen due to the bomb set off in the empty area and we just haven’t seen them yet.

"This bomb doesn't concern me, so it's fine if this bomb exists".

I like that logic. It also implies a black man being harassed is a bomb going off in an empty building.

Hey. Does that make bombing someone's house when they aren't home okay? I mean, it's an empty building.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

"This bomb doesn't concern me, so it's fine if this bomb exists".

I like that logic. It also implies a black man being harassed is a bomb going off in an empty building.

Hey. Does that make bombing someone's house when they aren't home okay? I mean, it's an empty building.

I literally just said both bombs are not fine and are of concern...

But to explain the analogy further for no real reason and just because I want to. Both bombs in this case would be nuclear one would be set off at a testing sight and would leave under lying radiation issues under the surface and the other would be in Japan where you can see the devastation at a glance.

And no I’m not saying thousands dying is comparable to an actor leaving the field I’m just pointing out that in one case you can see in damage while in the other it’s under the surface but still there and still a problem.

[PaladinSum]

I literally just said both bombs are not fine and are of concern...

But to explain the analogy further for no real reason and just because I want to. Both bombs in this case would be nuclear one would be set off at a testing sight and would leave under lying radiation issues under the surface and the other would be in Japan where you can see the devastation at a glance.

And no I’m not saying thousands dying is comparable to an actor leaving the field I’m just pointing out that in one case you can see in damage while in the other it’s under the surface but still there and still a problem.

For the exact same reason people being shitty to actors over movies is bad and stupid, being shitty to actors over movies is bad.

You keep making these tortured comparisons to make one set worse. You're just making the comparison of you being accepting of one set of toxicity.

Unless you're willing to tell me Kelly Marie Tran is the testing site and Boyega is Japan.

[Ezyah]

Lol you naive.

[Kathranis]

This popped up in my news feed a couple days ago for some reason and the whole thing just really sounds like unsubstantiated nonsense and wishful thinking to me.