Another "I can't breath" death: Police Reform & Protests in the USA

[PosPosPos]

The expectation/right? Yes. But It should be a balancing act between security and anonymity. There's precious little left of the latter as is, without expressly handing it over.

You are in a thread about cops killing people in public and yet you lack that awareness to make such an asinine statement about some "balancing act between security and anonymity".

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That alone is the reason to keep filming.

And the fact that filming isn't mutually exclusive to institutional reform.

[Draco-Onis]

Are you saying that when you leave your home the govenment is entitled to be able to see and hear everything you do?
That sounds horrible.

In a public place you have no right to privacy so the government is not really taking away anything.

[PosPosPos]

In a public place you have no right to privacy so the government is not really taking away anything.

The US reality is that even with recorded evidence, without enough public pressure the police already gets away with far too many things.

These clowns criticizing body/security cameras and recordings are basically asking for an already out-of-control group of terrorists to have complete immunity from the legal consequences of their actions.

[Edge-]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ubber-n1232753

Cops in Florida were exchanging verbal praise after shooting protesters with rubber bullets.

Note: The officer asks if the other officers camera is off before he says anything.

THIS IS LITERALLY THE FUCKING PROBLEM.

[Shadowferal]

You are in a thread about cops killing people in public and yet you lack that awareness to make such an asinine statement about some "balancing act between security and anonymity"..

You're saying the public shouldn't have any anonymity..?
And yet here you are...anonymous.

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These clowns criticizing body/security cameras and recordings are basically asking for an already out-of-control group of terrorists to have complete immunity from the legal consequences of their actions.

Define terrorism.

[Themius]

You're saying the public shouldn't have any anonymity..?
And yet here you are...anonymous.

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Define terrorism.

Using either threat of violence, or violence, to force a political outcome.

So police say... trapping peaceful protesters in an area where they can't escape, and then going on to shoot them, and tear gas them, when they have complied with what they wanted.... because they have an issue with the political views and right to protest... could be considered terrorism.
shooting journalist for instances is such a grave thing that it is literally considered a war crime, yet police have no issues doing that left and right.

On anonymity, do you blow up in anger when you pass a gas station, or enter a restaurant, or bank, or train station?

[PosPosPos]

You're saying the public shouldn't have any anonymity..?
And yet here you are...anonymous.

Ah, name a more iconic duo, Shadowferal and grossly misrepresenting context in arguments.

1) There's a difference between the internet and going outside.
2) There's a difference between normal citizens and the police, the latter of which seems to have carte blanche to decide any bodily movement, even so much as an bodily twitch, as valid grounds for executing people.
3) Contrary to your authoritarian stance, people with additional authority should be subject to significantly more oversight, so that they do not abuse their power over others.

Define terrorism.

https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/terrorism

It definitely becomes you to ask for definitions to words that are already amply defined in dictionaries, though.

[Shadowferal]

Using either threat of violence, or violence, to force a political outcome.

Like rioting and looting.

[PosPosPos]

Like rioting and looting.

Strange you would give a pass to the police doing the same.

But then again, you were also the same bad faith actor who unironically believes that it's not possible for people to treat humans on another continent as humans.

[Themius]

Like rioting and looting.

No because rioting and looting are both chaotic events that lack an actual directive. Disorder, is not terrorism, and there has been far far far more police breaking the law to protect their political position, than there have been riots or looting.

Also how foolish, to lump "theft" into "terrorism" are you even bother to think before you press post?

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Strange you would give a pass to the police doing the same.

But then again, you were also the same bad faith actor who unironically believes that it's not possible for people to treat humans on another continent as humans.

Bad faith, or just simply that xenophobic and racist or bigoted. Those are the only excuses, either bad faith or just a bigot.

[Shadowferal]

Strange you would give a pass to the police doing the same.

And here you are doing just that.
You can't pretend to be pro-violence and then bitch when it happens to you.

But then again, you were also the same bad faith actor who unironically believes that it's not possible for people to treat humans on another continent as humans.

"Bad faith?" Just fucking stop.
If someone shows himself to be a monster I've never had an issue with treating him as such.
So stop using terms that you clearly don't know the meaning of.

[Themius]

And here you are doing just that.
You can't pretend to be pro-violence and then bitch when it happens to you.

"Bad faith?" Just fucking stop.
If someone shows himself to be a monster I've never had an issue with treating him as such.
So stop using terms that you clearly don't know the meaning of.

You probably shouldn't respond to people if you don't understand the terms.

[Shadowferal]

No because rioting and looting are both [B]chaotic events that lack an actual directive[/B

So cute...why not just say that such events had nothing to do with Floyd's death too...because if you're into denial you might as we dive off into idiocy.

Bad faith, or just simply that xenophobic and racist or bigoted. Those are the only excuses, either bad faith or just a bigot.

Always bigoted against people who give a pass to child porn.

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You probably shouldn't respond to people if you don't understand the terms.

Oh please...you barely understand English half the time.

Infracted - Trolling

[Egomaniac]

So cute...why not just say that such events had nothing to do with Floyd's death too...because if you're into denial you might as we dive off into idiocy.

Always bigoted against people who give a pass to child porn.

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Oh please...you barely understand English half the time.

Again descending into ad hominem. Don't you realize that all it does is make your own position seem that much weaker?

[Mayhem]

So cute...why not just say that such events had nothing to do with Floyd's death too...because if you're into denial you might as we dive off into idiocy.

Always bigoted against people who give a pass to child porn.

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Oh please...you barely understand English half the time.

Well done, you are truly a master of whataboutism.

It went from police use of force can be seen as terrorism to but what about rioters and looters within 4 posts. I am impressed.

Why are people even engaging with you?

[Yuujin]

Again descending into ad hominem. Don't you realize that all it does is make your own position seem that much weaker?

Has he ever had a position that seemed anything but weak? Still, guess it can always get weaker.

[Themius]

So cute...why not just say that such events had nothing to do with Floyd's death too...because if you're into denial you might as we dive off into idiocy.

Always bigoted against people who give a pass to child porn.

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Oh please...you barely understand English half the time.

Literally a riot is defined as a violent disturbance, as riots are not targeted or direct attacks, they are not terrorist attacks. I'm diving into idiocy you say?

A pass? seems you can't read, you never have seemed able to.

I understand English very well. you though...

[Egomaniac]

Has he ever had a position that seemed anything but weak? Still, guess it can always get weaker.

Yeah, using personal attacks just draws more attention to how weak the argument is. And it shows that he knows it as well.

[PosPosPos]

And here you are doing just that.
You can't pretend to be pro-violence and then bitch when it happens to you.

Oh fun, a strawman. Like I didn't expect it from a bad faith actor.

"Bad faith?" Just fucking stop.

Truth hurts I guess.

If someone shows himself to be a monster I've never had an issue with treating him as such.

I am a monster because I treat humans like humans? I wonder what does it make you, when you don't see other humans...as humans.

So stop using terms that you clearly don't know the meaning of.

So you are not aware dictionaries exist?

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Oh please...you barely understand English half the time.

At least by your claim he "barely understands" the language, in the meantime, you don't even seem to know that dictionaries exist.

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Bad faith, or just simply that xenophobic and racist or bigoted. Those are the only excuses, either bad faith or just a bigot.

It's both. Anyone who defends bigots, are bigoted themselves by association.

[Themius]

Police officer on your property and blocking your way? Honk them and they get out and point a gun at you..

Watch this video and tell me this guy isn’t anything but a thug.



And this officer is involved in other shooting instances