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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    What does that mean overall?
    It means that some bring crime, some bring drugs, some bring rape, and some are good people.
    That's what it means, overall.

    What it doesn't mean, is that all are bad people, as previously claimed.
    That's factually false and not a statement of Trump's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soliloque View Post
    "Tim Pool, who is probably at best the world's worst Leonardo DiCaprio cosplayer."

    Rationalwiki, The Source of his defending nazis.
    The wiki links to actual articles, so all you are doing here is proving him right by acting ridiculous. So once more if you disagreed instead of simply hand waving it, what doesn't work well on these forums you could have provided an actual counter.

    At least they provided me and others with something actually to read on the person, all you did so far is provide a name and your opinion on said person.

  3. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by Soliloque View Post
    This is all factually correct: if you're going to cross a border illegally chances are high you're gonna have and bring over problems rather than constructive, positive gains.
    Otherwise you wouldn't be crossing illegally.
    https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/is...or-less-crime/

    That's a big 'ol xenophobic swing and miss there.

  4. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by Soliloque View Post
    "Tim Pool, who is probably at best the world's worst Leonardo DiCaprio cosplayer."

    --Rationalwiki, The Source of his defending nazis.
    Pictures of Tim Pool hanging out with Nazis are rather easy to find, and have been posted numerous times in these forums.

  5. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Soliloque View Post
    It means that some bring crime, some bring drugs, some bring rape, and some are good people.
    That's what it means, overall.

    What it doesn't mean, is that all are bad people, as previously claimed. That's factually false and not a statement of Trump's.
    Why are you refusing the word order? What he actually said was "they send bad people, some are good people"

    He did not say some of the people they send are criminals what he said was Mexico sends, *rattles of list of crimes* and some are good people.

    The factual statement is Trump's statement makes a general statement that Mexico sends bad people, and that some of them that do make it here are good people, he assumes.

    Why are you adding the modifier some to crime and some drugs when that isn't what he said? He only said "some" are good. Why are you lying? Do I need to show you the fucking video so you stop lying?

    If I say.

    "when Europe sends its white people they send druggies and rapist. Some... I assume are good people."

    Would you then think that means "Europe sends some druggies"???? because that's not what the statement was.

    If I say. I want my latte with whip cream, and some caramel, are you going to give me equal parts caramel and whip cream?

    If I want ice cream with some sprinkles do you think I want my cone to be half fucking sprinkles? Or do you think I want more ice cream than sprinkles?

    Is English your native language?
    Last edited by Themius; 2020-07-06 at 09:56 PM.

  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indara View Post
    I found the report, it's from a foundation called "Det goda samhället" lit: The Good Society. Which have ties to Ian wachtmeister.

    He was the leader of a party called new democracy.
    Its funny how you try and downplay this whole thing, even if another site ordere statistics from Brå, the numbers are from Brå.

    There was even a reportage on Norwegian state television about "utenforskapet" as you call it.

    Police chief telling that their cars are hit by grenades several times, and the film crew is attacked on several occasions.
    50 areas that are considered "dangerous", and over here. a few hours a way, there are noone.
    Is it the sürstromming then?


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  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    The wiki links to actual articles, so all you are doing here is proving him right by acting ridiculous. So once more if you disagreed instead of simply hand waving it, what doesn't work well on these forums you could have provided an actual counter.

    At least they provided me and others with something actually to read on the person, all you did so far is provide a name and your opinion on said person.
    Quote Originally Posted by Soliloque View Post
    "Tim Pool, who is probably at best the world's worst Leonardo DiCaprio cosplayer."

    --Rationalwiki, The Source of his defending nazis.
    I guess Rationalwiki fabricated this nice video of Tim Pool praising Hitler as a war hero too.

    https://streamable.com/gs1o3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    Actually it is not.
    That's pretty much the conclusion everywhere, the criminality at least here in Europe tends to come from generation of immigrants further down the line. What means it is more tied to their socio-economic situation. I can elaborate further why this is but it's far too late for me to do that now and it would be i think a rather long post if i attempted to be correct in explaining the European "guest worker" legacy.

    Another interesting thing i want to high light especially in Europe is that African and ME refugee's are really dislike by the previous wave of immigrants, including Muslims.
    It seems even they are also not immune to the populist statements provided by the (far) right, some might even consider voting far right due to that.

  9. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by PosPosPos View Post
    I guess Rationalwiki fabricated this nice video of Tim Pool praising Hitler as a war hero too.

    https://streamable.com/gs1o3
    "I'm a left moderate, Hitler was a hero!"

  10. #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by PosPosPos View Post
    I guess Rationalwiki fabricated this nice video of Tim Pool praising Hitler as a war hero too.

    https://streamable.com/gs1o3
    "Hitler wasn't a bad guy, but i am not a racist" isn't that uncommon of a statement as you think, including under immigrants of who would most likely ended up prosecuted or death. There seems to be a real weird phenomena taking place in that regard.

    So it could be that he identify himself as such but considering he ain't European i doubt it, but he does seem to lack the courage to stand by his convictions so he could simply be a coward, or a populist reporter trying to make a quick buck on gullible souls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indara View Post
    Yet I live in sweden and have visited these areas that you posted, I have friends that live in these areas. They're no worse than any place in sweden in terms of safety.
    Using anecdotal evidence was considered faux pas by a moderator a few posts earlier.

    And wow, you've certainly been places!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    "I'm a left moderate, Hitler was a hero!"
    Next up:

    "Nazi stands for National Socialism. Therefore, Nazis are left wing".
    Quote Originally Posted by SpaghettiMonk View Post
    And again, let’s presume equity in schools is achievable. Then why should a parent read to a child?

  13. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    "Hitler wasn't a bad guy, but i am not a racist" isn't that uncommon of a statement as you think, including under immigrants of who would most likely ended up prosecuted or death. There seems to be a real weird phenomena taking place in that regard.

    So it could be that he identify himself as such but considering he ain't European i doubt it, but he does seem to lack the courage to stand by his convictions so he could simply be a coward, or a populist reporter trying to make a quick buck on gullible souls.
    It's not just "Hitler wasn't a bad guy", but that he was "a war world 2 hero". There's a big chasm of difference there.

    And "doing it for popularity" doesn't excuse he has consistent and unwavering views of bigotry.
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  14. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by Aurgjelme View Post
    Using anecdotal evidence was considered faux pas by a moderator a few posts earlier.

    And wow, you've certainly been places!
    I couldn't understand a thing in that video as I don't speak the language. But I poked around the YouTube channel a bit, which apparently hasn't been active for over a year, and did learn about the "5 hottest conservatives" in Sweden!

  15. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Pictures of Tim Pool hanging out with Nazis are rather easy to find, and have been posted numerous times in these forums.
    Pictures like this, right?
    https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/d...514-snap-photo

    Damn nazi adjacent monste--- oh wait.

  16. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by Soliloque View Post
    Pictures like this, right?
    https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/d...514-snap-photo

    Damn nazi adjacent monste--- oh wait.
    That's not Tim pool, try again.

  17. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    At least they provided me and others with something actually to read on the person, all you did so far is provide a name and your opinion on said person.
    Dude, if you think a joke wiki made expressly to mock/take things out of context and outright make up stuff is a reputable source, I don't think you ever entered this conversation with honesty in mind.

  18. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by Soliloque View Post
    Pictures like this, right?
    https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/d...514-snap-photo

    Damn nazi adjacent monste--- oh wait.
    Quote Originally Posted by Soliloque View Post
    Dude, if you think a joke wiki made expressly to mock/take things out of context and outright make up stuff is a reputable source, I don't think you ever entered this conversation with honesty in mind.
    I noticed you just casually pretended I didn't just link a video of your precious Tim Pool worshipping Hitler - courtesy of Rationalwiki, too.

    Care to explain your selective vision?
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  19. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    That's not Tim pool, try again.
    Oooh, someone missed the point here.
    Bet you never heard of Daryl Davis before, this other guy who "hangs out with nazis".

  20. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by Soliloque View Post
    Pictures like this, right?
    https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/d...514-snap-photo

    Damn nazi adjacent monste--- oh wait.
    That's a particularly pernicious attempt at bad-faith arguments. You seem to know who Daryl Davis is, don't shit on his work by trying to use his heroic efforts to back up a garbage argument.

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