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    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    Well November will be a bitter motnh for you for sure. Also, the Coronavirus? i like it when idiots remove themselves from the gene pool and the riots definitely spread the coronavirus more.
    Actually.. no... protest did not spread coronavirus.

    Miami-Dade County Mayor Carlos Giménez, a Republican, is placing some of the blame for the recent coronavirus spike in south Florida on protesters who took to the streets following the death of George Floyd in support of Black Lives Matter, repeating an explanation that is becoming increasingly popular among Republicans, while many in the scientific community remain skeptical.

    The scientific evidence so far doesn’t back up that explanation: Last week, a team of economists also released a 60-page paper through the National Bureau of Economic Research, which found “no evidence that urban protests reignited Covid-19 case growth during the more than three weeks following protest onset.”

    New York City, for example, had large protests in the days following the death of George Floyd, but the city did not record a coronavirus spike as a result.
    Protest by the way happen outdoors, and many people were wearing masks, there were also often people handing out masks.

    They're not like this crowd:



    look at all these idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    The rust belt workers would have been better positioned to resist mass layoffs if Republicans hadn't spent decades busting their unions. *sips tea*

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    You do know that Greece is part of the Schengen Area, right?
    Those unions are one of the reasons US manufacturing stopped being economically competitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellhound View Post
    Those unions are one of the reasons US manufacturing stopped being economically competitive.
    "The workers wanted to be treated too well; they just couldn't compete with the pennies-to-the-dollar factories in china where they string up nets to prevent worker suicide" is really not the compelling argument you think it is.
    “Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellhound View Post
    Those unions are one of the reasons US manufacturing stopped being economically competitive.
    capitalism is so dehumanizing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellhound View Post
    Those unions are one of the reasons US manufacturing stopped being economically competitive.
    The nerve of these people, demanding more than slave wages and around the clock working in shit conditions.
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    And again, let’s presume equity in schools is achievable. Then why should a parent read to a child?

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    Quote Originally Posted by headfistass View Post
    funny that right wingers are usually real quick to lump greek figures in with "heroes of western civilization" when it's necessary.
    Eh, its a quirk of history, Greece ended up on the east side of the Christian schism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santti View Post
    The nerve of these people, demanding more than slave wages and around the clock working in shit conditions.
    In any case, that sort of labour being done in China has led to America dealing more with products further along the production line.

    Just how our industry for working "with" steel is larger than making steel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    "The workers wanted to be treated too well; they just couldn't compete with the pennies-to-the-dollar factories in china where they string up nets to prevent worker suicide" is really not the compelling argument you think it is.
    Not liking the truth does not change it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by headfistass View Post
    capitalism is so dehumanizing.
    Stalinism aint no better....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    Greece is not western Europe so im happy.
    Depends on how you define "west". It changes depending on the agenda of the person saying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santti View Post
    The nerve of these people, demanding more than slave wages and around the clock working in shit conditions.
    A Pyrrhic victory is not exactly something to celebrate....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellhound View Post
    Stalinism aint no better....
    okay, "fascist".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellhound View Post
    Not liking the truth does not change it.
    Yeah, we should just pay workers next to nothing so a few people can be better off.

    No wonder you hate unions.

    Stalinism aint no better....
    Almost like you can something besides that and capitalism. Are hard-right capitalism and stalinism the only 2 idealogies in your books?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    In any case, that sort of labour being done in China has led to America dealing more with products further along the production line.

    Just how our industry for working "with" steel is larger than making steel.
    That is because our steel making industry is now a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellhound View Post
    Not liking the truth does not change it.
    And the solution of "expect American workers to work more like third-world workers" is not an acceptable solution
    “Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    Because I have sympathy for the working class of America that is getting fucked over by the establishment and cowardly ideologues.
    So you support them getting fucked even harder by the Trump/GoP billionares, great thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    And the solution of "expect American workers to work more like third-world workers" is not an acceptable solution
    But don't you see, improving the quality of life for everybody hurts those poor billionares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommunismWillWin View Post
    But don't you see, improving the quality of life for everybody hurts those poor billionares.
    R.E.M. considering legal action against Trump for using their songs at rallies
    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...ngs-at-rallies

    After President Trump played R.E.M. songs "Everybody Hurts" and "Losing My Religion" at his Tuesday night rally in Milwaukee, Mills expressed his frustration and announced the band is "exploring all legal avenues" to prevent Trump from using its music.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    Did you read that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommunismWillWin View Post
    Yeah, we should just pay workers next to nothing so a few people can be better off.

    No wonder you hate unions.


    Almost like you can something besides that and capitalism. Are hard-right capitalism and stalinism the only 2 idealogies in your books?
    Or you realize the choice is between working for less/same or not having your job. Unions are not a win-win situation most of the time.

    I am well versed in the entire economic spectrum, which is why I know there is no pure economic system in reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    And the solution of "expect American workers to work more like third-world workers" is not an acceptable solution
    And we dont, which is why we now lament about the degradation of our manufacturing and the death of the middle class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellhound View Post
    And we dont, which is why we now lament about the degradation of our manufacturing and the death of the middle class.
    What do you think of Trump forcing meat processing workers during a pandemic, to return to work?
    Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellhound View Post
    That is because our steel making industry is now a joke.
    Do you rather robust steel making or robust steel working?

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