Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Edge-]

It's not a "gotcha" comment out of context. It's something she said. I was also a Warren supporter and did not agree with Bernie saying he would work with Trump, so there goes that ridiculous argument.

As is the case with Biden--who is not my favorite candidate but one I will absolutely vote for over Trump--I would vote for McGrath (were I eligible--I'm not) to get rid of McConnell. I also voted for Clinton in 2016 because she was clearly the superior choice over Trump, though I did not particularly care for her.

You can check your "casual sexism" bullshit at the door.

I mean...they should all be willing to work with Trump he he's actually going to do something good. I don't really think that's happened thus far, and hopefully he'll lose the election so it will be irrelevant anyways.

Why would you want them to refuse to work with Trump wholesale? They'd be no better than the Republican party, and realistically given Trump's history (and how much more unhinged he would be during a second term when he's got nothing to lose politically), it's not going to be relevant anyways. But in the off chance that Trump, say, pushes for something universally agreed upon as good like a sudden expansion of social safety nets, I'd want Democrats working with him to make that expansion the best it possibly can be.

[Benggaul]

You said that McGrath was "willing to work with Trump", and left it hanging....

That's a bullshit move.

Nah, you bringing in "casual sexism" when it was nowhere to be found was the bullshit move. Me saying I'm not happy with her claiming she'd work with Trump unless it was a ruse is just a statement of opinion.

I would have preferred Booker. I'll take McGrath if that's what'll get rid of McConnell, but I will not be content with her expressing willingness to work with a man who is actively dismantling America.

I mean...they should all be willing to work with Trump he he's actually going to do something good. I don't really think that's happened thus far, and hopefully he'll lose the election so it will be irrelevant anyways.

Why would you want them to refuse to work with Trump wholesale? They'd be no better than the Republican party, and realistically given Trump's history (and how much more unhinged he would be during a second term when he's got nothing to lose politically), it's not going to be relevant anyways. But in the off chance that Trump, say, pushes for something universally agreed upon as good like a sudden expansion of social safety nets, I'd want Democrats working with him to make that expansion the best it possibly can be.

See above. Given Trump's history, how likely is it at ALL that he pushes for something "universally agreed upon as good"? I'd say as close to zero as makes no difference. Him signing bills that Congress have put together doesn't count. Those are just photo ops that he has no real part in.

Part of the reason we are in the situation we are now is because Democrats continue to be the ONLY ones in the two-party system willing to work with the other side--and getting their ass handed to them at the negotiation table. I'm sorry, but "Working with Trump" is NOT a positive, given the motives he's put on display the past 4 years. In other times, with ACTUAL Presidents, I would agree with you. In present day America, however, nothing good is going to come from working with a shitstain who is seeking only to line his pockets at the expense of the public and have his name said as often as possible.

No. Fuck working with Trump. Better luck with the next person in office.

[Edge-]

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-kno...for-kanye-west

Worry not about Ye. Either he has no idea how to file to actually run for president or someone else is filing for him to run for two different parties and listing his home residence as the White House.

Almost like this is all just a publicity stunt to promote his upcoming album or some shit. Fucking weird.

[draynay]

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-kno...for-kanye-west

Worry not about Ye. Either he has no idea how to file to actually run for president or someone else is filing for him to run for two different parties and listing his home residence as the White House.

Almost like this is all just a publicity stunt to promote his upcoming album or some shit. Fucking weird.

I particularly enjoyed this quote

The procedure came after an increase in “patently false candidate ... names” in 2016.

Its like in 2016 people started taking the presidential race less seriously for some reason.

[Edge-]

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07...ource=facebook

The Texas GOP is still holding their convention, but don't worry, they've taken precautions.

No, they're not moving it to a digital format. No, they're not necessarily social distancing. Though they are going to be wearing masks.

No, that's not it at all.

The important people, you know, the Republican officials giving speeches, won't be there. They'll be livestreaming them outside of the coronavirus incubation center, where they can safely breathe free air from the comfort of their homes.

[Omega10]

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07...ource=facebook

The Texas GOP is still holding their convention, but don't worry, they've taken precautions.

No, they're not moving it to a digital format. No, they're not necessarily social distancing. Though they are going to be wearing masks.

No, that's not it at all.

The important people, you know, the Republican officials giving speeches, won't be there. They'll be livestreaming them outside of the coronavirus incubation center, where they can safely breathe free air from the comfort of their homes.

It gets harder and harder to think that this is NOT intentional on the part of Trump supporters. They are risking the lives of their most valued supporters - and for what??? The republican officials giving speeches from outside the virus incubation center are essentially MAJORLY TROLLING the attending audience.

And the members of the audience are willing to risk getting the virus ... to troll the libs???

[cubby]

We are seeing tight and solid and dramatic leads by the Democrats in Senate races across the country. The only two seats up for grabs in November that the GOP is leading in polls is Texas and Alabama (with no recent information on the Alaska race).

Flipping the Senate is seeming more and more possible.

[Shadowferal]

Moderate democrats are winning primaries over left-wingers. That "should" placate more independent voters. It's even getting Biden to talk about reaching across the aisle just a bit.

[Draco-Onis]

Moderate democrats are winning primaries over left-wingers. That "should" placate more independent voters. It's even getting Biden to talk about reaching across the aisle just a bit.

A bit? Biden has been very clear about his love of Republicans I have no delusions about his presidency. He is basically what a republican was a decade or two ago.

[Draco-Onis]

Democrat voters should be ashamed of themselves, exactly for that reason.

He is clearly the lesser of two evils which is why he won Democrats did not want to risk another Trump term. Whatever you think about Biden he is way better than the alternative.

[Draco-Onis]

Biden is better in some areas, but in other areas he is just as vile.
(My signature is relevant in that regard).

You are just agreeing with me to a lesser extent. Between Trump and Biden it is a clear choice some of us cannot afford 4 more years of people like white supremacist Stephen Miller in charge.

[cubby]

Moderate democrats are winning primaries over left-wingers. That "should" placate more independent voters. It's even getting Biden to talk about reaching across the aisle just a bit.

I'm really glad to see this continuing. A rash of extremely left democrats picking up primaries could stifle voter turn out, or cause some backlash.

[Milchshake]

I'm really glad to see this continuing. A rash of extremely left democrats picking up primaries could stifle voter turn out, or cause some backlash.

Naw, thats just more of cosplay socialists and their posturing. They dont really see that in 2020, there's like 92% policy overlap between Moderate Dems and slightly more progressive candidates.

Sure there's a few outliers that want Fantasy Space Communism. But they're mostly non-voters using progressives as a shield for their laziness.

How United Are Democrats? A 96-0 Data Point Offers a Hint

In battleground states, 87% of former Sanders supporters are backing Biden.

Dont ask about the other 13%. They'll lecture you about that one time Biden did a thing... And how the Kings of Leon did an uncool thing...

Fucking hipsters ruining progressive politics.

[eschatological]

“Major sports organization” is a bit of a stretch... she is tweeting every sports team, regardless how small, with a sporting facility. It’s why the tweet about Barcley’s center, had like 4 teams mentioned. Thanks to her, I learned that there is a pro lacrosse league in US... who knew? lol

I knew. Buffalo has one of the best teams in the NLL's history, the Bandits!

[Adam Jensen]

You are just agreeing with me to a lesser extent. Between Trump and Biden it is a clear choice some of us cannot afford 4 more years of people like white supremacist Stephen Miller in charge.

80% of my decision to vote for Biden in November is SCOTUS. Trump cannot be allowed to have another SCOTUS pick. That would be enough to leave his legacy on American politics for 3-5 more decades.

[Draco-Onis]

80% of my decision to vote for Biden in November is SCOTUS. Trump cannot be allowed to have another SCOTUS pick. That would be enough to leave his legacy on American politics for 3-5 more decades.

SCOTUS is lost my main concern are lower courts.

[Rasulis]

Naw, thats just more of cosplay socialists and their posturing. They dont really see that in 2020, there's like 92% policy overlap between Moderate Dems and slightly more progressive candidates.

Sure there's a few outliers that want Fantasy Space Communism. But they're mostly non-voters using progressives as a shield for their laziness.

How United Are Democrats? A 96-0 Data Point Offers a Hint

In battleground states, 87% of former Sanders supporters are backing Biden.

Dont ask about the other 13%. They'll lecture you about that one time Biden did a thing... And how the Kings of Leon did an uncool thing...

Fucking hipsters ruining progressive politics.

According to your article, 4% or Bernie's supporters is going to vote for Trump? I guess some people just want to set the world on fire if they can't get their way.

[cubby]

Not sure Kelly needs it honestly. His opponent is deeply disliked, and already lost one race for Senate just two years ago. Kelly is a ridiculously strong candidate who should be able to take the seat quite convincingly. Arizona should have two Democratic Senators next year.

McGrath is still a long shot, but there is going to be a lot of money in that race, because while McConnell wants to keep the majority, he also wants to keep his own job. I view Kentucky as a pure distraction effort, they have to fight there because it is a must win race for them, so the more they have to spend the better.

South Carolina is the one I have been heavily involved in for 6 months, and I am actually getting pretty optimistic about it. Graham is really not well liked in SC, even the highly conservative workers at my plant have talked about just leaving the Senate part of the ballot blank. Vote for Trump, but not Lindsey. Harrison wouldn't have been my preferred candidate, he is a political insider all the way. Trump is going to win the state, and I don't know if Harrison can run ahead of Biden in the the state. Still, Graham may run considerably behind Trump, and that could be the edge Harrison needs to take the seat. Because while SC will go for Trump, it may be a lot closer than most people think.

I agree about Kelly - of course we want him to win, but he is such a dominant candidate going up against a one-time Senate loser already. It will be interesting to see, if Kelly does win, Arizona with two blue senators.

I also agree re McGrath - for me, it's nothing against her, I just can't see McConnell losing - he's one of the most gifted political operators of our time (love him or hate him, he's good) - and he's up for his 7th fucking term. I hope she wins, and she has a fuck-ton of cash ($41M before the final week of the primary).

I'm glad to hear that you're working in South Carolina - it would be amazing if Graham lost. I mean seriously amazing. 538 hasn't updated the aggregate polls since May, but they were tied then.

And overall, the GOP is behind in the polls (again, fivethirtyeight) in all but three states (Alaska, Texas, Alabama).

[Thekri]

And overall, the GOP is behind in the polls (again, fivethirtyeight) in all but three states (Alaska, Texas, Alabama).

Source for this? It seems pretty unlikely that Trump is running behind in Wyoming, Mississippi, and those sort of states.

[cubby]

Source for this? It seems pretty unlikely that Trump is running behind in Wyoming, Mississippi, and those sort of states.

Here is the source, but to clarify, I was speaking of the GOP Senate candidates, not Trump himself.

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Edit - never mind, there are more than three GOP Senate candidates currently leading in their respective states.