Otherwise what? What will happen if i say nothing? Will the Gerald fan club send an assassin after me? If you like Gerald when why does it matter if i think he sucks? Is it because deep down you don't really like him? So you want to know what i like so you can say Haha that sucks.
I do agree with this. His personality is fine which saves him, but in terms of what he is and what he does Geralt totally does come across as a wish fulfillment character. Even then the third game toned this down a bit given that much of the humor was about either mocking the serious faced Witcher or having him serve as the straight man in ridiculous situations. They also put the brakes on the banging starting with the second game, but in the first it was indeed juvenile as fuck that nearly every single female character of note was pretty, badly wanted Geralt's dick and left him a nude postcard of themselves.
You're awfully defensive about this. O_o
"Otherwise... what's the point of this conversation?"
I mean, it's fine if you dislike Geralt, but unless you can offer some other character you did like (In whatever game) as an example, your posts just come across as antagonistic for no reason and we have nothing to discuss. You can't expect to butt into a conversation, shouting "XYZ sucks" and not expect the people involved to engage in some way. Do you actually have something to offer?
You could use that same description to describe Aragorn from Lord of the Rings. Except for the sleeping around thing, but he does bang an elf so thats worth about three humans at least. :P
I can see your point though, but let;s not forget he is a 'fantasy' character, emphasis on the fantasy. Fantasy characters are supposed to fill out a 'fantasy'. So of course it's going to come across very fanfic. Not all fantasy roles fill this goal though, but there are quite a few that do. :P
Geralt to me is just a typical fantasy character.
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I mean IMO Aragorn is also one of the least interesting characters in LOTR precisely because he's just so cool and good and infallible and liked by everyone and super badass and has healing hands and is king and bangs elves and shit. It's not a great defense, and he's not really the protagonist either. There are ways to have fantasy characters without them coming across as blatant wish fulfillment tropes with the deck stacked in their favor.
Geralt's not a massive case of this, mind, I've seen worse and the typical RPG protagonist is almost always implausibly competent, handsome and well-connected, even (sometimes especially!) player-created ones like in Fallout or Dragon Age. Still, you can tell the writer, the game makers and the TV show all tried very, very hard to make him cool. It mostly succeeded thankfully, otherwise everything about this IP would have been cringe incarnate.
Coming back to Cyberpunk, I'm sure V towards the endgame will be pretty busted themselves, with plenty of cybernetic abilities, the latest and shootiest guns, knowing literally everyone on a first name basis, and who knows what other powers and traits. That's kind of how RPGs work.
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Could you describe Geralt as 'cool' though? I mean I guess you could, it depends on what people think cool is. I certainly see that cool factor. Just inn the books at least the most interesting thing about Geralt were the people he met and interacted with, and less Geralt himself. Geralt pretty much even goes against toxic masculinity sterotypes to an extent (at least in the video game and TV show) which is something considered uncool to people who defend that sort of thing. In the TV and the video games he certainly is way more feeling and sympathetic than he is in the books.
Again, not arguing that point precisely since I certainly rag on wow with it's z tier writing all the time.
What I will say in defense of cyberpunk applies to pretty much any licence derived from tabletop - it's about building a world for you to write your story in. We don't know yet how it will translate into this game, since all we've seen is the very beginning.
CDPR, for all the faults in the witcher games, have done a bang up job of writing compelling stories for an otherwise mediocre fantasy world in those books. Hopefully they can do the same here.