Horrific Visions - Madness Effects Nerfed

[hyphnos]

Player base constantly rants that this expansion isn't alt friendly.
Player base constantly rants when Devs ease up on some mechanics to make alts life easier.

Blizzard will never win, can't satisfy anyone nowaways.

Poster on internet board notes two different opinion, makes absurd claim that because people have different opinions mega-corp they are defending "can't win".

If you don't have relative numbers of players holding each opinion your "can't win" claim is bullshit and the default assumption is that blizzard being a mega-corp that counts it's money is making the decision that is for them "a win".

[Eazy]

Player base constantly rants that this expansion isn't alt friendly.
Player base constantly rants when Devs ease up on some mechanics like 6 months after the content release to make alts life easier.

Fixed that for you. And that nerf isn't even that good.

[Exhale]

Poster on internet board notes two different opinion, makes absurd claim that because people have different opinions mega-corp they are defending "can't win".

If you don't have relative numbers of players holding each opinion your "can't win" claim is bullshit and the default assumption is that blizzard being a mega-corp that counts it's money is making the decision that is for them "a win".

You need actual numbers when you literally see this behaviour being a plain constant in every change the game has? Come on mate, you are literally trying to miss the point on purpose.

[twothe]

#1 It DOES matter what you do. Dodge stuff = you wont get kicked out.

The last time people had to tell me to not stand in the fire during an encounter was 1997 when I played Ultima Online and figured that out on my own. Nowadays I can do void zone mechanics in my sleep. That is not a challenge.

#2 A huge amount of time for.. what?

It took me over a day just to unlock visions. And then I have to do those dailies to be able to enter them. Oh and I need to do it how many times again to get the R15 cloak, and all that other stuff? It is nothing but a massive time-sink, which would be ok if it was in any way fun, but it is not.

but if you do these visions with 420+, a no-mask and unbuffed Thrall/Alleria is completely roflstomp in less than 1 minute.

I did it with 429, no-mask and unbuffed, and it took me several minutes, because tanks are not exactly known for their high DPS. I was more worried about sanity running out before I finished her than playing the mechanics. If it wasn't for the sanity loss on hit I could have let my programmable keyboard play that encounter.

[Ealyssa]

The last time people had to tell me to not stand in the fire during an encounter was 1997 when I played Ultima Online and figured that out on my own. Nowadays I can do void zone mechanics in my sleep. That is not a challenge.

You said you were kicked. You were kicked if you didn't dodge stuff. You were either lying on your first comment or your second. Which one was it ?

[h4rr0d]

You said you were kicked. You were kicked if you didn't dodge stuff. You were either lying on your first comment or your second. Which one was it ?

It took me over a day just to unlock visions.

I think that's your answer right there

[Bloodyleech]

The last time people had to tell me to not stand in the fire during an encounter was 1997 when I played Ultima Online and figured that out on my own. Nowadays I can do void zone mechanics in my sleep. That is not a challenge.



It took me over a day just to unlock visions. And then I have to do those dailies to be able to enter them. Oh and I need to do it how many times again to get the R15 cloak, and all that other stuff? It is nothing but a massive time-sink, which would be ok if it was in any way fun, but it is not.



I did it with 429, no-mask and unbuffed, and it took me several minutes, because tanks are not exactly known for their high DPS. I was more worried about sanity running out before I finished her than playing the mechanics. If it wasn't for the sanity loss on hit I could have let my programmable keyboard play that encounter.

Over a day to unlock visions? It doesnt even take 2 hours on a fresh alt. No dailies needed at all. Doing 3 Assaults a week nets 2 1/2 keys, doing mini-visions daily nets 3 key instead. Timeinvestement: maximum of 75 minutes per week.

The first 5 upgrades are done in less than 5 minutes. Nothing that costs time, at all.

Then I've to burst your bubble, but you aren't a good player. I'm really sorry.
Tanks don't even have to deal with the same amount of health as DD.
I main a Tank and it was and is a complete faceroll. Sorry man!

[exsanguinate]

Just a little fix

I waited for a quote kinda like that. If you can't beat it, you don't deserve it.

[Suggs]

Yeah " six months after the content was released" if you can't get through the content after 6 months of gear upgrades then YOUR doing something wrong NOT the content. Just more cry babys and lazy people wanting high gear rewards with little to no effort, disgusting.

Only thing disgusting is people like you that give a shit how others get thier loot.
You did it pre nerf, you got the chieve, good for you. Now why give a shit?

[twothe]

I main a Tank and it was and is a complete faceroll. Sorry man!

Not saying it is in any way difficult, just time consuming. And you inventing numbers doesn't make it any faster.

If it was somehow fun to do that would be time well spent, but it is just boring crap like most of what Blizzard pulls out of their asses these days.

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You said you were kicked. You were kicked if you didn't dodge stuff. You were either lying on your first comment or your second. Which one was it ?

I am beginning to question your reading skills... I was kicked out of the dungeon, because that's what happens if you kill the final boss.

[Adamas102]

I waited for a quote kinda like that. If you can't beat it, you don't deserve it.

Better question is, who fucking cares? People seem to forget that this is just a game. The only thing anyone "deserves" is enjoyment. If this relatively minor nerf lets a few more people clear higher mask visions almost 6 months after the content was released then I see no problem whatsoever. Who are we going to be flexing our pre-nerf 5 mask achievement to in 6 more months anyway? The only people bitching about these types of changes are kids who spend too much time dwelling over how everyone else plays the game.

[Bloodyleech]

Not saying it is in any way difficult, just time consuming. And you inventing numbers doesn't make it any faster.

If it was somehow fun to do that would be time well spent, but it is just boring crap like most of what Blizzard pulls out of their asses these days.

Faceroll is meant for "easy and quick", not just the difficulty. I had to do these runs without Twilight Dev and it still was very easy and fast with my tank.
I'm not inventing ANY numbers. I got 7 120s, I know exactly what time you need for this stuff. Up to 20 Min (most times 10ish minutes) per assault x3 = 60 minutes. Minivision doesnt even take 3 minutes per run.
If it's to boring for you, it's something completely different.

[mitre27]

I bet i still will get combod on rexxar trash.

[socialmaker]

doesn't matter, still same crap, clearing visions with a BM hunter at 450 vs getting wrecked at 470 with shadowpriest there's your balance

[cparle87]

Have you ever noticed that the exit is never in front of your character? Count to 3, turn to wall, turn around ...

Hm. I never considered that. I'll have to give it a try. Thanks.

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I bet i still will get combod on rexxar trash.

Move yourself so the pig's small charge won't bump you into a trap. He throws them in the same place, I just move myself into the back corner of the room near where I come in.

[Aerisot]

A new hearthstone expansion...

Am I the only one that feels like they shouldn't release a new expansion until after the championship?

[munkeyinorbit]

Player base constantly rants that this expansion isn't alt friendly.
Player base constantly rants when Devs ease up on some mechanics to make alts life easier.

Blizzard will never win, can't satisfy anyone nowaways.

I think you are looking for Blizzard will never win, can't satisfy everyone nowaways.

[Aphrel]

I wonder wich dev wiped in visions to make this happen.

Just as with the all other changes to visions they shouldve been live 6 months ago. Super obvious things like coalesing vision cap of 25k, being able to farm desired corruptions and ofc how fucking terrible gameplay expereince certain combos of abilities in horrific visons are... Its as if they intentionally are trying to create a less enjoyable game...

[Cyi]

You all are so much better than me. I’m a 433 DH and I just recently got a 4 mask done. So glad you all are better than me and personally I would have loved more time to try and get the achievements done prior to this nerf.

[Onikaroshi]

You all are so much better than me. I’m a 433 DH and I just recently got a 4 mask done. So glad you all are better than me and personally I would have loved more time to try and get the achievements done prior to this nerf.

Not like this one changes much for DHs anyway, you can jump over SP and remove Leaden with retreat