Conduits 1 week lockdown - overall poll

[Rayzen17]

Hello,


I've created the following poll and shared it initially on the EU forums regarding conduits and their 1 week lockdown:
https://www.poll-maker.com/poll3045782x2DA34Ef0-94

I'm interested in expanding the playerbase voting to that of the MMO Champion forums as well.
Please use the link and cast a vote to one of the 3 options presented as answers to the following question.

Question: Should Conduits have a week timer, lower or none for changing them?

A) One week cooldown is fine.

B) Less than a week would be fine.

C) Changing without a cooldown would be fine.


The more areas that data is extracted from leads to a more accurate depiction of how well received or not a feature is or will be.

The poll will be distributed to as many venues as possible: In-game, various Discord channels, obviously mmo-champion, Facebook, etc
Feel free to share it as well if you want.

Thank you for reading and voting(or not - it is optional ofc)

[WorcesterSauce]

i'm not clicking that lmao

[Rayzen17]

I've made the link less scary for you, rofl. =((

[Ealyssa]

Not clicking that link. You can do a poll directly in the thread, external website isn't asked for.

[Rayzen17]

Not clicking that link. You can do a poll directly in the thread, external website isn't asked for.

It's a poll-maker link and I've already explained in the OP that it's across multiple platforms and sites, because the purpose is having multiple player-bases for a more accurate overall poll.
You can google poll maker and see for yourself it's a safe platform.

[CalamityHeart]

Why would you not just put a poll on top of your thread?

I'm not clicking the link. Not because I'm in any way worried about it being a dangerous redirect, but because having to use an external poll for something that can simply be done in-thread is fucking stupid, and I will not oblige it.

[Louz]

I clicked the link, I was fine first but then my screen started flashing weird patterns and then Ion's face appeared but his eyes were bleeding.

[Rayzen17]

Can't you read the motive for the external pole? I already wrote it twice in the thread.

Here is the 3rd time, because you aren't able to read it properly, or understand, i'll try and clarify it further too: "The purpose is having multiple player-bases for a more accurate overall poll, multiple player-bases means going across different platforms and using the exact same link so that the data is in 1 place only."

Why would i create 1 poll here on this site when i am gathering data from multiple sites?
It's a neutral site where everyone has access and doesn't need an account.

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I clicked the link, I was fine first but then my screen started flashing weird patterns and then Ion's face appeared but his eyes were bleeding.

Well, if his eyes were bleeding it means that he's currently not feeling to good mister Stark.
Maybe he could cut the crap with the restrictions everywhere and the ghosts will stop possessing him. xD

[MrLachyG]

Hello,


I've created the following poll and shared it initially on the EU forums regarding conduits and their 1 week lockdown:
https://www.poll-maker.com/poll3045782x2DA34Ef0-94

I'm interested in expanding the playerbase voting to that of the MMO Champion forums as well.
Please use the link and cast a vote to one of the 3 options presented as answers to the following question.

Question: Should Conduits have a week timer, lower or none for changing them?

A) One week cooldown is fine.

B) Less than a week would be fine.

C) Changing without a cooldown would be fine.


The more areas that data is extracted from leads to a more accurate depiction of how well received or not a feature is or will be.

The poll will be distributed to as many venues as possible: In-game, various Discord channels, obviously mmo-champion, Facebook, etc
Feel free to share it as well if you want.

Thank you for reading and voting(or not - it is optional ofc)

don't you think that voting on something that isn't in its final iteration is a bit pointless? Blizzard aren't going to listen or even look at a random poll especially since there seems to be no limit on how many times you can vote which means the results would be skewed anyway

[Toybox]

A 24 hour CD would be fine. I understand Blizzard not wanting people to feel the need to min-max raid nights & swap back & forth for every single raid encounter, but the idea of having to lock myself to a set-up for a single-target progress boss for an entire week which simultaneously gimps me in M+ on the other 5 nights we're not raiding? That seems a bit extreme.

I'd be more than fine with it being a daily reset, even though many would argue that's still way too long.

[Echocho]

We're not supposed to swap things around other than talents and gear. 1 week is not enough

[TickTickTick]

If you post an external link to a poll on a forum where you can create a poll, you might as well create a discussion thread linking to an actual discussion on different site. Not clicking that.

To answer question: should be no cd at all. Let ME decide what I want to play and when, depending on what kind of content or fight I'm on currently.

[Rayzen17]

don't you think that voting on something that isn't in its final iteration is a bit pointless? Blizzard aren't going to listen or even look at a random poll especially since there seems to be no limit on how many times you can vote which means the results would be skewed anyway

You can click and vote as many times as you want, it counts only once. You can test this and look at the numbers. (just make sure it's not someone else voting at the same time, so do this more than once)

As for it being pointless, the poll is for the current design of the system, to see if players agree or disagree with it's current beta implementation.

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We're not supposed to swap things around other than talents and gear. 1 week is not enough

You can swap essences now, and you can swap soulbinds in Shadowlands too. So arbitrarily placing this on conduits is nonsense.

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If you post an external link to a poll on a forum where you can create a poll, you might as well create a discussion thread linking to an actual discussion on different site. Not clicking that.

To answer question: should be no cd at all. Let ME decide what I want to play and when, depending on what kind of content or fight I'm on currently.

You're the forth that can't be bothered to read the purpose of having an external pole instead of a local MMO Champion one.
There is more than one bubble world.

[Elias01]

You can click and vote as many times as you want, it counts only once. You can test this and look at the numbers. (just make sure it's not someone else voting at the same time, so do this more than once)

As for it being pointless, the poll is for the current design of the system, to see if players agree or disagree with it's current beta implementation.

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You can swap essences now, and you can swap soulbinds in Shadowlands too. So arbitrarily placing this on conduits is nonsense.

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You're the forth that can't be bothered to read the purpose of having an external pole instead of a local MMO Champion one.
There is more than one bubble world.

There is nothing arbitrarily on 1 swap per week. There are things you can swap free at any time and there are things what are more impactfull chocies what have limits to swaping. Both are great. 1 allows you to customize your build per boss but with lack if identyti and player agency and other adds lot of value to your choice of build and identyti. And if you dont like this kind of RPG aspects then you are clearly not RPG player and its you who plays wrong type of game.

[Wheeler]

They don't have an option. Either they have to enforce this time limit, or they'd have to change the conduits to be so much less powerful that they won't make/break your progression pulls.

You'd have players spending 20 minutes before every boss to go min-max at the forge with different conduits. They're powerful enough to where this would absolutely be viable.

Those conduits? They are a limited resource, so they'd have to grind significant amounts of content to stockpile them.

Needing to stockpile them? Guilds will inevitably enforce this grinding of covenants, and players that don't grind them will be considered to "not be doing enough".

Like I said - They don't have a choice. If they uncapped these things it would quickly devolve into the most grindy expansion in the history of MMO's. Alts would no longer be able to keep up, opening another can of worms ENTIRELY.

[Rayzen17]

There is nothing arbitrarily on 1 swap per week. There are things you can swap free at any time and there are things what are more impactfull chocies what have limits to swaping. Both are great. 1 allows you to customize your build per boss but with lack if identyti and player agency and other adds lot of value to your choice of build and identyti. And if you dont like this kind of RPG aspects then you are clearly not RPG player and its you who plays wrong type of game.

You seem lacking in the RPG understanding department.
If this were a true RPG and we could befriend 4 covenants, we'd have all of their powers available at all times, because they want us to fight the big bad of the expansion and want us to help, as such they wouldn't take out powers away.
This doesn't happen because we'd be OP with all of them at once, as such that's why we can have only 2/8 and not 8/8 available at the same time.
Meaning that RPG takes a backseat to gameplay here.

So don't come to me with your nonsensical RPG elements when it's been shown countless times that when they affect player power, they take a backseat.

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They don't have an option. Either they have to enforce this time limit, or they'd have to change the conduits to be so much less powerful that they won't make/break your progression pulls.

You'd have players spending 20 minutes before every boss to go min-max at the forge with different conduits. They're powerful enough to where this would absolutely be viable.

Those conduits? They are a limited resource, so they'd have to grind significant amounts of content to stockpile them.

Needing to stockpile them? Guilds will inevitably enforce this grinding of covenants, and players that don't grind them will be considered to "not be doing enough".

Like I said - They don't have a choice. If they uncapped these things it would quickly devolve into the most grindy expansion in the history of MMO's. Alts would no longer be able to keep up, opening another can of worms ENTIRELY.

I'm sorry but 20 minutes to change stuff is nonsense.
Have you looked at the Soulbinds? It takes literally 1 minute max to place some conduits in.

We already can change essences so it's the same thing and that takes 10 seconds max.

Took me 30 seconds to make my ST Venthyr build just now.
https://shadowlands.wowhead.com/soul...DiUuSw4hFStjDg

Another 30 seconds to make me an AOE one and i haven't made one before, but the choices are clear cut.
https://shadowlands.wowhead.com/soul...2uDhUuPg4lMPQO

[Sunslayer]

It's sad how much effort Blizzard puts into how we play their game. It's like they want us to go down one hallway, don't deviate.
Shadowlands is looking like more of the same (BfA).

[Asrialol]

Where's the options for 2 week cooldown being fine? 6 months?

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It's sad how much effort Blizzard puts into how we play their game. It's like they want us to go down one hallway, don't deviate.
Shadowlands is looking like more of the same (BfA).

Just like most other games, you mean.

[Delano]

No one cares about your "explanation"; if you're going to make a poll that only exists to seek validation of your preexisting opinion, the least you can do is use the forum's preexisting poll tools to do it.

[Rayzen17]

Where's the options for 2 week cooldown being fine? 6 months?

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Just like most other games, you mean.

Probably in some other guy's poll. xD