1. #7741
    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    I still stand by the fact that Trump could've coasted to a relatively easy 2020 win if he actually did anything meaningful about COVID-19 back in January when he was briefed on it. His approval would've gone up, he could've run on his 'I saved you all from getting sick and dying!!' platform with more tangible results, and spun the inevitable outbreaks in major metropolitan cities as 'Democratic failure' and shown himself as the benevolent savior swooping in to save them.

    But instead he couldn't get over himself long enough to acknowledge something that made him 'look bad' and it's caused a catastrophic domino effect that's primed to smother our economy and is already over-taxing our health care providers.

    Quick Edit: This opinion was something formed back before the BLM protests started up, so it's very likely he'd still have rather dreary approval ratings in this hypothetical scenario where he actually gave a shit about COVID yet was still determined to frame the protests as Lawless Rioters and Terrorists and sicked Federal Thugs at them. They probably wouldn't be 'Texas might actually turn purple???' bad, but you get my point.
    Trump didn't have to do anything which is why his actions have been the definition of stupidty.
    Let his team of medical experts do there thing, just hand over the response to Fauci and even if things turn out wrong you could say "we followed the medical advice of the nations top medical experts" this is what defacto the Democrats have done.

    Trump however listen to Kusher who told him (who just told Trump what Trump wanted to hear) is that his election chances are tied into the economy and immigration. So banning Chinese from traveling to the US is good
    Closing down the business is bad
    Ignoring the pandemic good

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    Quote Originally Posted by ati87 View Post
    Trump didn't have to do anything which is why his actions have been the definition of stupidty.
    Let his team of medical experts do there thing, just hand over the response to Fauci and even if things turn out wrong you could say "we followed the medical advice of the nations top medical experts" this is what defacto the Democrats have done.

    Trump however listen to Kusher who told him (who just told Trump what Trump wanted to hear) is that his election chances are tied into the economy and immigration. So banning Chinese from traveling to the US is good
    Closing down the business is bad
    Ignoring the pandemic good
    At this point the only way he could've made this worse is if he actively - and willfully - encouraged its spread in our country but... Between actively undermining the advice of medical professionals and Kushner's willingness to let Blue States get sick for political points, they might have already crossed that line.

  3. #7743
    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-Angel of Riots View Post
    This in itself is such a huge glaring contradiction in their entire rethoric.

    If Corona is fake or insignificant, why did they bother banning travelers from foreign nations?
    Hence the racism accusation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-Angel of Riots View Post
    If Corona is fake or insignificant, why did they bother banning travelers from foreign nations?
    Trump didn’t really ban access from China, since US citizens could freely travel to and from China. Trump’s original ban on EU, excluded England and Ireland, likely because those have his golf courses. As in, the travel ban was pretty much fake... it’s a Trump talking point, that isn’t actually true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ati87 View Post
    Hence the racism accusation.
    In this case it’s a mater of repeating Trump’s bullshit... his travel ban is only mentioned as a way to claim he didn’t ignore the virus, when in fact, his travel ban permitted free travel for US citizens. Neither Trump’s travel ban in China, nor the later EU ban, imply Trump was taking it seriously... one was his simple a attack on China, missing the point of a ban... then the EU ban, literally excluded England, for some reason, while being so rushed and last second, the ban it self became a super spreader event... since packed and rushed airports, were a stupid way to contain the virus...
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  5. #7745
    Democratic primary tomorrow; Tlaib vs Jones is what I'm looking at. Tlaib has the edge but mail ballots gave Jones a win before.

  6. #7746
    Imagine a time where the president calls mail in voting "rigging" and saying absentee voting is superior even though it's the same thing and he has done it for years then imagine when he says it's an illegal coup when a state (Nevada) mails every voter a ballot for the election considering the fucking pandemic then imagine when the president says the USPS can't handle mail in voting even though it has handled it for years and also handles Christmas and the millions of letters that are set to a dude who doesn't even exist then imagine how the president is purposely slowing/gutting the USPS to make voting by mail harder....


    What a total and complete dumpster fire this country is, fuck sakes

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    Bob Avakian, founder and leader of the Revolutionary Communist Party backs Joe Biden for President!!

    Biden keeps racking up the endorsements of Leftists.

    Cosplay Socialists gonne be mad

    /e sips tea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Democratic primary tomorrow; Tlaib vs Jones is what I'm looking at. Tlaib has the edge but mail ballots gave Jones a win before.
    Kansas Senate Primary is tomorrow as well. Democrats pumped $5M into a PAC to beat down the challenger to Klobach - fucking LOL - who was trailing a month ago and now even GOP internal polling says is a dead heat. GOP is begging Trump to visit Kansas because the GOP Senate Election Chair is saying that the Senate Majority "flows through Kansas".

    The fear is that if Klobach wins the GOP Primary, he'll get beaten by the Democratic nominee, because Klobach is so unpopular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Kansas Senate Primary is tomorrow as well. Democrats pumped $5M into a PAC to beat down the challenger to Klobach - fucking LOL - who was trailing a month ago and now even GOP internal polling says is a dead heat. GOP is begging Trump to visit Kansas because the GOP Senate Election Chair is saying that the Senate Majority "flows through Kansas".

    The fear is that if Klobach wins the GOP Primary, he'll get beaten by the Democratic nominee, because Klobach is so unpopular.
    It's Kobach, not Klobach.
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    Did the ‘democrat platform signals going away from communism’ thread get closed? Might be fun there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    Bob Avakian, founder and leader of the Revolutionary Communist Party backs Joe Biden for President!!

    Biden keeps racking up the endorsements of Leftists.

    Cosplay Socialists gonne be mad

    /e sips tea
    Its like you did not even bother reading the article.

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    the day before the election the democrats should do a james comey thing and say
    "today we are investigating trumps relationship to epstein and his multiple accusers"
    and get media to run with headlines but really its just a sham investigation like benghazi
    we gotta play dirty like Rs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Did the ‘democrat platform signals going away from communism’ thread get closed? Might be fun there...

    Communists: ‘We know both GOP and DNC want nothing to do with us and are both corporate shills... but... ‘Cmon... Trump? Yeah, the people’s revolution can take a siesta... See ya on May 1st! We get hammered in 4!!!’
    it is suprising since historically communists have allied with fascist because they hated the liberal government, but you know maybe they seen that ernst thalman all ended up in a concentration camp for their hubris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    the day before the election the democrats should do a james comey thing and say
    "today we are investigating trumps relationship to epstein and his multiple accusers"
    and get media to run with headlines but really its just a sham investigation like benghazi
    we gotta play dirty like Rs

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    it is suprising since historically communists have allied with fascist because they hated the liberal government, but you know maybe they seen that ernst thalman all ended up in a concentration camp for their hubris.
    Where did you even pull that bullshit from?

  14. #7754
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    Where did you even pull that bullshit from?
    which part, the first part is just a petty reccomendation that dems would never do because they are too soft

    the 2nd part is in reference to german communist party allying with the nationalist socialist because they considered neoliberals worst than the fascists, and the communists ended up the first people in the camps

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    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    it is suprising since historically communists have allied with fascist because they hated the liberal government, but you know maybe they seen that ernst thalman all ended up in a concentration camp for their hubris.
    this is a flat out lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    which part, the first part is just a petty reccomendation that dems would never do because they are too soft

    the 2nd part is in reference to german communist party allying with the nationalist socialist because they considered neoliberals worst than the fascists, and the communists ended up the first people in the camps
    except he never did. he thought the social democrats were no better than the nazis, and at one point even dropped that and worked with the social dem party AGAINST the nazis. this is sad, get a new boogieman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    which part, the first part is just a petty reccomendation that dems would never do because they are too soft

    the 2nd part is in reference to german communist party allying with the nationalist socialist because they considered neoliberals worst than the fascists, and the communists ended up the first people in the camps
    They where allied while fighthing/killing each other in the streets? While the liberals/conservatives voted Hitler into absolute power? What neo-liberal shithole did you get that from?


    this KPD? Really?



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    Neoliberalism was not really a thing back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Did the ‘democrat platform signals going away from communism’ thread get closed? Might be fun there...

    Communists: ‘We know both GOP and DNC want nothing to do with us and are both corporate shills... but... ‘Cmon... Trump? Yeah, the people’s revolution can take a siesta... See ya on May 1st! We get hammered in 4!!!’
    Yep I'm proven right again.

    Cosplay Socialists are more interested in protecting their revenue streams on patreon and soundcloud than in actually defeating fascism.

    Also today, Obama is handing out endorsements after a fiery speech at the John Lewis memorial.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    Yep I'm proven right again.

    Cosplay Socialists are more interested in protecting their revenue streams on patreon and soundcloud than in actually defeating fascism.

    Also today, Obama is handing out endorsements after a fiery speech at the John Lewis memorial.

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    US leftists, rejoice in Coalition Building

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    @barackObama
    has joined our movement because November’s election is the most important in our lifetimes -- it's going to take all of us to win.

    That’s why I’m asking – will you join President Obama and officially endorse me for Congress today?
    The joke of a capitalist calling everybody who does completely obey them as "cosplay socialists".

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    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    it is suprising since historically communists have allied with fascist because they hated the liberal government, but you know maybe they seen that ernst thalman all ended up in a concentration camp for their hubris.
    Complete opposite of reality:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage_to_Catalonia
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  20. #7760
    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-Angel of Riots View Post
    It's the spiel and soul of the leadership of the Democratic Party: Keep ostracizing anyone that wants progressive economic policies and better worker rights, and meanwhile distract everyone with #wokeness about identity politics instead.

    Milchshake seems to enjoy being the champion of that corruption, possibly because his own family are affluent democrats whose best interest is in keeping the lower classes down. Not sure what we should call that. "Evil" is the only word that comes to mind.
    I think of Milchshake as a paid Trump supporter that is working hard to get democrats to fight each other rather than Trump. He does not seem to be succeeding. I do not consider him to be a credible source.

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