Teespring bans Antifa merchandise from its platform

[Santti]

That's their choice, a choice they are free to make.

What?

Was I supposed to whine about "cancel culture", or something?

[Stormspellz]

Really? Funny how the Left was up in arms about a certain bakery refusing to make a certain cake but now it's apparently their right to refuse service to anyone.

Refusing service due discrimination and choosing not to do business with another entity are not the same thing

[Thee ANCOM]

it really goes to show how blatant the contradictions and hypocrisy is with conservatives when we have two threads; one cheering on the supposed demise of a company for not catering to fucking gross anti semites, and then this one where it's the exact same situation but it's going against the lefties so then it's perfectly acceptable.

[D Luniz]

so capitalism is bad now Butt Witch?

[Kallisto]

Really? Funny how the Left was up in arms about a certain bakery refusing to make a certain cake but now it's apparently their right to refuse service to anyone.

Almost as hilarious as the right who defend a bakery refusing to make a cake scream, bitch, whine, cry, act like 5-year-olds, wear nazi flags in protest when a business uses the right they defended for the bakery is used to make people wear a mask in their property.

[Endus]

it really goes to show how blatant the contradictions and hypocrisy is with conservatives when we have two threads; one cheering on the supposed demise of a company for not catering to fucking gross anti semites, and then this one where it's the exact same situation but it's going against the lefties so then it's perfectly acceptable.

I've said it before, and I'll repeat it here; the distinction is principles.

The left wing (broadly speaking) forms their decisions based on ethical principles; we take an issue with discrimination against protected classes because it violates those principles, but free choice that doesn't so discriminate, as in this, isn't a problem. Whether we agree with the choice or not doesn't come into it; we care about the principles.

Conservatives, these days, don't have principles to base their stances on. They are concerned almost entirely with power; with their capacity to do what they want and push society in the direction they want. It's all power.

And that's why we get threads like this; a right-winger sees a company acting in a way that isn't an expression of left-winger's supposed power-fantasy, and they gleefully post the thread expecting us to be outraged, because they would be so outraged if it were a conservative company caught the same way. And we're not outraged. Because it's not a violation of our principles. It's fine. We really don't care.

And that seems to utterly baffle the right-wingers. They cannot understand what it's like to have ethical principles to guide your views, rather than a simple power fantasy.

[Doctor Amadeus]

I would say it's their business, they are allowed to refuse to print a fictional political group. As for the backlash HAHAH Ah I am suspecting as many people give a shit one way as another, but if it's all the same if they lose sales, I am guessing they will apologize.

[Polyxo]

They can eat a bag of dicks, but its their decision.

[Elegiac]

I really wish they had the nuts to say they're banning antifascist merchandise, rather than mince words.

But I suspect they don't, because they know what someone who opposes being against fascism usually is.

[Ivanstone]

Both sides have been doing it for a long time now, but I'd say the left has been more aggressive about it in recent years. Since at least the 80's anyway. I'd say it certainly started with the moral puritans that were the PMRC trying to ban music with mature themes. Funny that the PRMC was fronted by the wife of a Democrat (Tipper Gore), the mayor of Washington's wife and the wife of a real estate agent. So, basically a bunch of rich lefties.

PMRC Founders:
Tipper Gore, wife of former Democratic VP Al Gore
Sally Nevius, wife of former GOP Washington City Council Chairman John Nevius
Susan Baker, wife of former GOP Treasury Secretary James Baker
Pam Howar, wife of former GOP Party Organizer Raymond Howar

Yep quite the collection lefties we got here!

FUN FACT: James Baker was a Democrat until 1970 before switching to the GOP. Gee I wonder why he did that??!?!?!?!

[Rommon64]

PMRC Founders:
Tipper Gore, wife of former Democratic VP Al Gore
Sally Nevius, wife of former GOP Washington City Council Chairman John Nevius
Susan Baker, wife of former GOP Treasury Secretary James Baker
Pam Howar, wife of former GOP Party Organizer Raymond Howar

Yep quite the collection lefties we got here!

FUN FACT: James Baker was a Democrat until 1970 before switching to the GOP. Gee I wonder why he did that??!?!?!?!

Also, they're all the wives of the politicians, not the politicians themselves. Last I checked, women are allowed to have political opinions independent of the men in their lives.

[Ivanstone]

Also, they're all the wives of the politicians, not the politicians themselves. Last I checked, women are allowed to have political opinions independent of the men in their lives.

I thought about raising that point but in general I don't expect a politician's spouse to openly contradict them by advocating for an opposing party. Honestly I can't think of a single politician who has a spouse that actively supports a different political party.

Even if they did have differing opinions Rennadrel attempted to frame the PMRC as a left wing organization even though there's little evidence that's the case. In the particular of Tipper Gore she's openly worked for a variety of left wing causes through out her life while having a single conservative brain fart.

[kail]

If they want to stay out of extremist politics, I can understand. If they are allowing designs from some neo-nazi groups or the like, then they clearly picked a side.

[JohnBrown1917]

If they want to stay out of extremist politics, I can understand. If they are allowing designs from some neo-nazi groups or the like, then they clearly picked a side.

Yeah, anti-fascism is clearly just as extreme as fascism.

[callipygoustp]

I think this thread can be summed up as: Teespring?

[silveth]

People really need to learn history before using their little jokes like reich wing. I mean look at the groups the Nazis were left wing, they were socialist. Antifa when it started was far left, they were communist. Heck even the fascist start was in Italy. They were far left progressive.

But on point. Teespring can do what they want. They are not a monopoly or breaking any laws.

That is a far cry from google/facebook/youtube/twitter. The issue with those companies are the breakdown between publisher and platform. We need to make it a clear distinction and they have to pick one. Either they are a platform, which means anything legal goes, or they are a publisher and can choose what they allow to be said and seen. The issue is that they claim to be a platform and have platform protections, but then are acting like a publisher. That has to be stopped. They can pick to be either, but just like newspapers, books, radio, tv, the phone companies, websites, you have to pick one or the other.

[Endus]

People really need to learn history before using their little jokes like reich wing. I mean look at the groups the Nazis were left wing, they were socialist.

*LOUD BUZZER SOUND*

The only people who think the Nazis were socialist are people who blindly believe Nazi propaganda.

https://www.britannica.com/story/wer...zis-socialists

Stop pushing Nazi propaganda as if it's anything resembling truth.

[kail]

Yeah, anti-fascism is clearly just as extreme as fascism.

The general stance of being against fascism isn't extreme IMO but those that are part of a group to take physical action against what they perceive as fascism leans more on the extreme spectrum.

[Felya]

People really need to learn history before using their little jokes like reich wing. I mean look at the groups the Nazis were left wing, they were socialist.

This is only said by people who think China is democratic...

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Stop pushing Nazi propaganda as if it's anything resembling truth.

He is an example of populists successfully using socialism and democracy, as part of the scam to hide authoritarianism... That’s the veil past which most Americans conservatives don’t see... While demanding their guns, with their anti government sentiment, fear of the elite and powerful... they want democracy and socialism... they get scared by socialism, when the thing they fear is the assumed application of socialism. They are afraid that government under socialism will need to come for their private property, as Trump uses eminent domain to build a wall and has attempted using eminent domain to build a mall...

[wunksta]

People really need to learn history

Speak for yourself.