A prior armed robbery conviction gets factored in.
By putting them in prison, you are subsidizing criminals. And since my taxes pay for the prison, I am being forced to subsidize criminals. Why do you want to force me to subsidize criminals?
Throwing money at them doesn’t accomplish anything other than making the person doling out such money appear very foolish.
And you can petition to change that by putting such on a voting ballot.
At which point you'd have to be very convincing for the voter to vote in favor of such a change.
Do you imagine by any stretch that anyone here has been that convincing? Because I hear "armed robbery" as a prior conviction and that vote won't go your way.
The crime bill pushed by Clinton, Biden et al has been a huge disaster no matter how you slice it
https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...rm-heres-stop/
I like how 11 pages in and people are still trying to Strawman "we can't just let criminals go free" into it.
No one is saying "Don't punish criminals"
What we are talking about is keeping the punishment proportionate to the offense. No crime this man has ever committed justifies a life sentence.
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You hear "armed robbery" I hear "1987" and "prior conviction"... meaning he already served his sentence for that crime.
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It seems like as a culture, we are conditioned to dehumanize prisoners. Here's a good talk on it
Also consider Danny Trejo, who was in and out of prison for 11 years due to multiple armed robberies and drug offenses. He was able to get help and became a better person for it.
Only the US and New Zealand have multiple strikes policies. Only the US and Australia have mandatory minimum sentencing for non-violent crimes. Only a handful of other countries have mandatory minimum sentencing but generally only for murder. Do you think the US needs these policies while other nations don't?
No, it isn't, stop lying you lier.
If your focus was on workers you wouldn't;t be making disingenuous neo-liberal arguments that you can't punish the rich because it only hurts the workers. Do you know what else hurts the workers? The status quo or have you not noticed?
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It's also worth noting only one territory in Australia has mandatory minimum sentences and has a 300% higher indigenous incarceration rate than any other state.
Which just goes to show they are both racist and don't work.
Tonight for me is a special day. I want to go outside of the house of the girl I like with a gasoline barrel and write her name on the road and set it on fire and tell her to get out too see it (is this illegal)?
He's been in prison for 23 years.
That's over twice as long as the combined sentence for all of his prior convictions.
There are murderers and rapists serving less time than this petty criminal.
Dude, I'm an east european nationalist, don't call me neoliberal, i'm offended..
You can punish the rich, all u want that caused the mess, but we are talking about not letting their companies sink along with all their workers.
I couldn't give a rat's ass about some wall-street scumbags...
And if he had committed armed robbery 3 times...then maybe you'd have an argument. You don't get on the dangerous offender list for stealing garden shears and forging checks.
Also, most people on the "dangerous offender" list in Canada are on there because of sex crimes. This guy isn't a rapist. He isn't violent.