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    Stop saying Classic is easy - It’s harder than retail

    I’ve never seen anyone solo a raid boss in classic.

    I’ve seen many people solo raid bosses In retail.

    -discuss

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    you are wrong and raids cleared in a couple of hours is pretty much proof.
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    Classic is boring, not hard.

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    What are you talking about, I've soloed Hogger several times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeHongKong View Post
    I’ve never seen anyone solo a raid boss in classic.

    I’ve seen many people solo raid bosses In retail.

    -discuss
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    Classic was and will always be easy. The only exception was really C'thun, 4 Horsemen, and Kel. Those were the only non-easy fights of Vanilla.
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    Remind me, when was the last time a mythic raid was cleared in mere hours after release? Okay I know the answer, Legion but still 18 hours compared to sub 1 hour clears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeHongKong View Post
    I’ve never seen anyone solo a raid boss in classic.

    I’ve seen many people solo raid bosses In retail.

    -discuss
    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...8#post52565778

    The irony is that when people solo bosses even during current expansion, it takes more skill than all 40 people in classic combined across all the content.

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    It's easy but tedious. That shouldn't be interpreted as easy, just long, slow or dull as that defines it pretty well. It's not challenging or complex. If you dumped me in the woods surrounded by bears, wolves, and little Goblin men who would kill me for looking at their candles wrong with no compass, map, armor, or good weapons and said "here you go, survive," I wouldn't last long and it wouldn't be a very interesting adventure. I'd probably run around until I got tired and would get eaten by the bear because I'd no longer care due to how unnecessarily tedious my predicament is.

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    I assume we're talking about raids? Classic raids are way to easy because they started at patch 1.12, vanilla raids is a different story but people were still very new at the game.

    Retail raids are very much demanding and only a very small percentage can kill the final boss at mythic in the first week. All its other difficulties except some of the final bosses on heroic are rather easy though.

    I don't really care about the difficulty either way. Both games can be fun for different reasons.

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    Yeah that one boss mechanic and that one spell you have to spam sure is difficult, if your IQ is less than that of a monkey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeHongKong View Post
    I’ve never seen anyone solo a raid boss in classic.

    I’ve seen many people solo raid bosses In retail.

    -discuss
    Naked Onyxia raid, no world buffs and very few flasks:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98N1GTfrCJk

    Show me the video of naked players in Retail soloing raid bosses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Factsbeforefeelings View Post
    Naked Onyxia raid, no world buffs and very few flasks:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98N1GTfrCJk

    Show me the video of naked players in Retail soloing raid bosses.

    Full flasks, potions, and buffs and 40 full raid.


    Vs 1 person killing a raid boss in retail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cuafpr View Post
    you are wrong and raids cleared in a couple of hours is pretty much proof.
    Raids cleared in a couple of hours is proof that Classic is 16 year old content with mechanics that are incredibly easy to do research on.

    Get a time machine, go back to 2004, and have fun trying to teach people how to stack, spread out, etc.

    Idiots say "raids cleared in a couple of hours is proof." You are one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyphael View Post
    It's easy but tedious. That shouldn't be interpreted as easy, just long, slow or dull as that defines it pretty well. It's not challenging or complex. If you dumped me in the woods surrounded by bears, wolves, and little Goblin men who would kill me for looking at their candles wrong with no compass, map, armor, or good weapons and said "here you go, survive," I wouldn't last long and it wouldn't be a very interesting adventure. I'd probably run around until I got tired and would get eaten by the bear because I'd no longer care due to how unnecessarily tedious my predicament is.
    What complex about any raid boss in retail?
    Move out of this, group up at that, nuke when he yells.

    More mechanics crammed into a fight doesn't make it complex, you just have to remember a few more "x means I have to do y", and in most cases DBM or GTFO makes that decision for you anyway.
    And even retail mythic is just as easy as long as you grind gear for long enough.

    The games are different, that's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by korijenkins View Post
    Raids cleared in a couple of hours is proof that Classic is 16 year old content with mechanics that are incredibly easy to do research on.

    Get a time machine, go back to 2004, and have fun trying to teach people how to stack, spread out, etc.

    Idiots say "raids cleared in a couple of hours is proof." You are one of them.

    Agreed.. most Retails raids are cleared in a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeHongKong View Post
    I’ve never seen anyone solo a raid boss in classic.

    I’ve seen many people solo raid bosses In retail.

    -discuss
    Being able to solo something or not does not make it easy or hard...

    people cant solo trash in the retail raids
    people can solo trash in the classic raids

    plus you know the people soloing in retail are exploiting usually right?
    that did happen in vanilla aswell...

    but i mean yeah sure, world first mythic nzoth was killed 6 days after its first pull.
    nefarian was killed within 40 minutes of the raid opening
    yeah classic is totally harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tronski View Post
    What complex about any raid boss in retail?
    Move out of this, group up at that, nuke when he yells.

    More mechanics crammed into a fight doesn't make it complex, you just have to remember a few more "x means I have to do y"
    And even retail mythic is just as easy as long as you grind gear for long enough.

    The games are different, that's all.

    "What complex about any raid boss in retail?"
    "More mechanics crammed into a fight doesn't make it complex"




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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeHongKong View Post
    Agreed.. most Retails raids are cleared in a week.
    No they are not. nzoth mythic alone took 6 days, let alone the rest of the raid.
    nefarian was killed within 40 minutes of the raid coming out.
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