SSD question

[myumsa]

Hello all,

I am looking to add another ssd to my current build and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for the MSI X470 gaming plus motherboard.

Thanks!

[Thunderball]

Hello all,

I am looking to add another ssd to my current build and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for the MSI X470 gaming plus motherboard.

Thanks!

What are you doing with your PC?

[myumsa]

What are you doing with your PC?

Primarily used for gaming, I only have a 500gb ssd right now.

[Temp name]

Get a Crucial MX500 or Sabrent Rocket depending on if you're fine with cables or not

[Thunderball]

Primarily used for gaming, I only have a 500gb ssd right now.

Crucial MX500 or Crucial P1. First one is a TLC SATA 2.5 inch SSD, second is a QLC M.2-2280 NVMe SSD. I suppose you're getting it to store your games, so there shouldnt be much of a speed difference for that. MX500 one is going to be more reliable imo.

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Sabrent Rocket

Why? QLC version is $15 more than than the P1, and the TLC version is $45 more. Doesnt make any sense.

[Temp name]

Why? QLC version is $15 more than than the P1, and the TLC version is $45 more. Doesnt make any sense.

Because QLC gets slower faster. I'd prefer sticking with TLC if possible

[Thoriangun]

Because QLC gets slower faster. I'd prefer sticking with TLC if possible

But the general consumer base will never notice or get to that point for the drive.

[Thunderball]

Because QLC gets slower faster. I'd prefer sticking with TLC if possible

There's plenty of TLC stuff that's cheaper than the TLC Rocket. Also QLC doesnt get slower faster, they're just slower when cache is full on both, given that cache is built identically and has the same size. So it's more about cache than the memory cells, the fact that QLC is slower without the cache is kind irrelevant - both will slow down well below SATA3 speeds.

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But the general consumer base will never notice or get to that point for the drive.

Oh, you definitely will, but you will most likely not notice any difference between QLC and TLC if your cache is full regardless of the kind of memory the drive has.

[Thoriangun]

There's plenty of TLC stuff that's cheaper than the TLC Rocket. Also QLC doesnt get slower faster, they're just slower when cache is full on both, given that cache is built identically and has the same size. So it's more about cache than the memory cells, the fact that QLC is slower without the cache is kind irrelevant - both will slow down well below SATA3 speeds.

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Oh, you definitely will, but you will most likely not notice any difference between QLC and TLC if your cache is full regardless of the kind of memory the drive has.

From playing games?

its not gonna stutter playing 8 years down the line, it will still load games fast, it will still stream texture data just fine, what data work load are you thinking of the OP will do? what do you think the general consumers will do?

I don't disagree with TLC does that from evidence but only at an extreme and general consumers are not data centres.

[Krimzin]

Do not buy a SSD now. Wait a short period. There is a new one coming out thats gonna be a game changer...The new one used both SLC and QLC.

https://tomsfinds.com/fuzedrive/a100...acebook.com%2F

[Thunderball]

Do not buy a SSD now. Wait a short period. There is a new one coming out thats gonna be a game changer...The new one used both SLC and QLC.

https://tomsfinds.com/fuzedrive/a100...acebook.com%2F

I hope you're joking. There's a bunch of SSDs using SLC cache on the market right now.

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From playing games?

its not gonna stutter playing 8 years down the line, it will still load games fast, it will still stream texture data just fine, what data work load are you thinking of the OP will do? what do you think the general consumers will do?

I don't disagree with TLC does that from evidence but only at an extreme and general consumers are not data centres.

It's really unlikely it will last 8 years but ok, that's beside the point. You would be suprised how much an average user gets into those "data center" tasks. I'm not saying that cache overfills happen everyday, but the reality is that it happens way more often than most people realize, and you need to be ready that your drive wont do the numbers that the reviews showcase on a cold, empty drive.

[DeltrusDisc]

Do not buy a SSD now. Wait a short period. There is a new one coming out thats gonna be a game changer...The new one used both SLC and QLC.

https://tomsfinds.com/fuzedrive/a100...acebook.com%2F

lol get outta here with that Facebook paid advertisement hahaha

Samsung and Crucial remain the kings.

[Musta]

I just bought one from HP brand, more than 500mb/s in reading and copying.

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lol get outta here with that Facebook paid advertisement hahaha

Samsung and Crucial remain the kings.

HP ones are really good aswell

[Thunderball]

Samsung and Crucial remain the kings.

Wat. Crucial is really behind in NVMe SSD. Samsung is still the best but I bet their sales are dropping fast with all that rampage of SM2263-based TLC stuff.

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HP ones are really good aswell

No they're not dude, sorry.

[Krimzin]

lol get outta here with that Facebook paid advertisement hahaha

Samsung and Crucial remain the kings.

Saw it on Toms not Facebook

[Temp name]

Saw it on Toms not Facebook

But your link is from facebook. It's literally in the URL. At the end. The referrer=Facebook means you got it from Facebook and they're making money on it. You can also look earlier in the URL and see Source=Facebook, which again, means you got the link from Facebook.

[DeltrusDisc]

Saw it on Toms not Facebook

It literally says "Facebook" in your link.

Trust me, that's a paid advertisement from an unproven brand.

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Toms is short for tomshardware.com, not tomsfinds...

Actually I saw this "tomsfinds" thing the other day when I saw the exact SSD he posted... paid ad...

Don't trust it.

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HP ones are really good aswell

Nope.

They're okay but Samsung and Crucial are better, for the past decade or so...

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Wat. Crucial is really behind in NVMe SSD. Samsung is still the best but I bet their sales are dropping fast with all that rampage of SM2263-based TLC stuff.

Yeah, the first released PCI-E 4.0 ones are trassssh. Smart consumers won't buy them. Unfortunately too many people won't pay attention to those and just see "OH, RYZEN 3000 SUPPORTS IT SO HAH LOL INTEL LOSERS GET SOMETHING SLOWER" when really they are hardly faster in anything meaningful lol

Yes, Crucial is a little behind in NVMe, but I still value SATA SSDs, since so few motherboards support all that many NVMe cards.

I've got a couple Samsung NVMe SSDs and like 3 Crucial SATA SSDs in my computer now and love it.

[Anevers]

Crucials MX500 is good, avoid the BX version.
https://www.newegg.com/crucial-mx500...-174-_-Product

I like the Adata Su800, avoid the new 740 model as it has no dram.
https://www.newegg.com/adata-ultimat...-018-_-Product
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TBQ637W...ing=UTF8&psc=1

If you're looking for an NVME I like the Sx8200 Pro
https://www.amazon.com/XPG-SX8200-Ge...tronics&sr=1-2

Always check to see if the drive you're buying has a dram cache. Spend the extra cash and get the nicer drive. The cost savings going from a Su740 to an su800 or a Bx500 to an mx500 is worth it.

[Addiena]

Yeah, I was just pointing out the “Tom’s” that’s respected is a different site than the one he was linking.

Tomshardware Germany is respected, Tomshardware US is utter garbage that isnt respected anywhere that matters.

[Addiena]

it’s the same company.

Same company very different main editors, one is a respected tech journalist the other is a "Just buy it" shill that is known for running adverts as reviews.

Its well known that the German branch has nothing to do with the US branch aside from being owned by the same main company and having the same name.