Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[DKjaigen]

We are still months/years away from having a vaccine that would possibly bring a semblance of normalcy back.

Protests and riots are occurring because governments are slow to reform law enforcement policies and minority populations, with the help of technology, are gaining more enfranchisement from a system that was created to keep them silenced and incarcerated.

And is it working for you? the riots are causing massive colleteral damage with many people becoming a victim from antifa and BLM. These groups are steadily losing support and these riots may backfire.

[Machismo]

I found Hillary more repulsive than Trump. Simple as that.

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And therein lies the fault with the two party system.

Except, you have admitted that you would vote red, no matter what.

So, it seems like your supposed disdain for Hillary is merely a smokescreen. Once again, thanks for proving me correct about you, thanks for that.

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Unfortunately there are corrupt and incompetent subversive movements that have opposed the working class of America. They are anti-democratic and anti humanism, and they are called democrats, Marxist, antifa and blm . By removing democrats from power by voting and proscuting the criminal elements of BLM and antifa peace and prosperity can return.

We don't want your national socialism and ethno-nationalism. Keep it in your country.

[Felya]

And is it working for you? the riots are causing massive colleteral damage with many people becoming a victim from antifa and BLM. These groups are steadily losing support and these riots may backfire.

Why hasn’t Trump figured out how to solve this? Did Rondney King riots last this long? Did Trayvon Martin protests? Did any racial incident cause this much turmoil, since the 60s, under any other president? Did those presidents blame states and act like they can’t do anything? I think you forgot what competent leadership looks like...

[Ghostpanther]

Only a organization as sick as the RNC can come up with such a production as the one going on right now. They are their own parody. Their messaging...effective.

Jesus, if only the DNC had this energy. This is how pissed and energetic the DNC should be.

Hershel Walker and Sen. Tim Scott both had powerful speeches. The RNC should be using Hershel's in a daily add.

[DKjaigen]

Uhm... Trump has increased taxes on middle class and has taken away everything from pandemic relief to affordable healthcare from the working class. He has shifted taxes being collected, to the working class, by 14%. Can you explain to me, how spending historical amounts of money on corporate interest, has helped the American worker? What is unemployment at right now? Maybe spending that money on American workers, instead of rich elites, would have had better results?

This is false information. Democrats are the ones that support the corporate interest . Through globalism and mass migration . Trump is trying to get the well paying manufacturing jobs out of china.

[Felya]

Hershel Walker and Sen. Tim Scott both had powerful speeches. The RNC should be using Hershel's in a daily add.

I think they should run Trump and co saying that Biden is extreme left, on extreme left sites that are refusing to vote Biden, because he is conservative.

[DKjaigen]

Why hasn’t Trump figured out how to solve this? Did Rondney King riots last this long? Did Trayvon Martin protests? Did any racial incident cause this much turmoil, since the 60s, under any other president? Did those presidents blame states and act like they can’t do anything? I think you forgot what competent leadership looks like...

military maxim: Never Interfere With an Enemy While He’s in the Process of Destroying Himself.

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We don't want your national socialism and ethno-nationalism. Keep it in your country.

I dont listen to marxists.

[Felya]

This is false information. Democrats are the ones that support the corporate interest . Through globalism and mass migration . Trump is trying to get the well paying manufacturing jobs out of china.

What exactly did I say that was wrong? Are you denying that Trump’s corporate tax cut, resulted in a 7% increase in individual earnings represented in taxes and corporate dropping by 7%? Thus creating a 14% increase in workers responsibility for taxes? Why do you think the stock market is increasing, with over 10% unemployment?

Edit: Is Trump demanding removal of corporate liability for workers during a pandemic, done to benefit workers?

[Machismo]

military maxim: Never Interfere With an Enemy While He’s in the Process of Destroying Himself.

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I dont listen to marxists.

I'd love to see how libertarians are Marxists.

I guess national socialists don't like competition in their love of socialism.

[Felya]

I'd love to see how libertarians are Marxists.

I guess national socialists don't like competition in their love of socialism.

I’ll vouch for that... you are the most ridiculously ardent libertarian on this forum.

[DKjaigen]

What exactly did I say that was wrong? Are you denying that Trump’s corporate tax cut, resulted in a 7% increase in individual earnings represented in taxes and corporate dropping by 7%? Thus creating a 14% increase in workers responsibility for taxes? Why do you think the stock market is increasing, with over 10% unemployment?

Edit: Is Trump demanding removal of corporate liability for workers during a pandemic, done to benefit workers?

Did you calculate the earnings increase from the economic growth that these tax cuts created? the better paying jobs returning? the better bargaining position of workers when there is low unemployment ?

I also don't understand the last bit please specify

[Daelak]

And is it working for you? the riots are causing massive colleteral damage with many people becoming a victim from antifa and BLM. These groups are steadily losing support and these riots may backfire.

Yes it is working. This is democracy in action. Sadly, due to US conservatism's violent aversion to democracy and their disdain for people to redress their grievances, Americans will be subject to the same abuse perpetuated by conservatives in past movements.

It takes a monumental level of cognitive dissonance and willful ignorance of US history to see how this is not exactly the reason for and the reason why the US exists in the first place.

Conservatives like you want to concoct a fiction where society and progress is only achieved by your own rigid, hierarchical terms, however human history shows that has never happened, and just like in struggles in the past, progressives will put conservatives down in the voting booth or in the battlefield if necessary to achieve equal protection and equal justice for ALL PEOPLE.

[Machismo]

Did you calculate the earnings increase from the economic growth that these tax cuts created? the better paying jobs returning? the better bargaining position of workers when there is low unemployment ?

I also don't understand the last bit please specify

He also didn't count all the tariffs that Trump pushed... we should add in that tax burden.

[DKjaigen]

I'd love to see how libertarians are Marxists.

I guess national socialists don't like competition in their love of socialism.

You are not a libertarian you are a Marxist.

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Yes it is working. This is democracy in action. Sadly, due to US conservatism's violent aversion to democracy and their disdain for people to redress their grievances, Americans will be subject to the same abuse perpetuated by conservatives in past movements.

It takes a monumental level of cognitive dissonance and willful ignorance of US history to see how this is not exactly the reason for and the reason why the US exists in the first place.

Conservatives like you want to concoct a fiction where society and progress is only achieved by your own rigid, hierarchical terms, however human history shows that has never happened, and just like in struggles in the past, progressives will put conservatives down in the voting booth or in the battlefield if necessary to achieve equal protection and equal justice for ALL PEOPLE.

Burning looting and murder is democracy? I doubt you are going to claim you like democracy if Biden loses in November.
You are also not progressive.

[Machismo]

You are not a libertarian you are a Marxist.

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Burning looting and murder is democracy? I doubt you are going to claim you like democracy if Biden loses in november.

How are supporting individual liberty, limited government, and the free markets... Marxist principles?

You socialists are adorable.

[Felya]

Did you calculate the earnings increase from the economic growth that these tax cuts created? the better paying jobs returning? the better bargaining position of workers when there is low unemployment ?

I literally said that the dow is going up, as unemployment is over 10%? Is that not good enough calculation of earnings? How is 10% unemployment, low? What better paying jobs? What the fuck are you talking about?

I also don't understand the last bit please specify

White House and Congress clash over liability protections for businesses as firms cautiously weigh virus reopening plans
https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-po...gal-liability/

But for McConnell, one of the biggest concerns appears to be the threat of lawsuits against businesses. He has described the potential for a “second pandemic” of litigation, and he and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) say discussion of liability protections will be “absolutely essential.” Democratic leaders, however, have not expressed any interest in advancing such protections at a time when workers are risking their health by laboring at manufacturing jobs, grocery stores, hospitals and other businesses that have stayed open throughout the crisis.

“Providing some kind of blanket immunity shield is an idea that’s the result of the majority leader’s imaginary boogeyman of a flood of lawsuits, a parade of horribles that is a political ploy,” Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) said Friday. He said the proposal would be “a non-starter.”

Figuratively, shitting on the workers, to protect corporations... What is your basis for Trump supporting workers? The fact that he has never worked an honest day in his life and things you need ID to buy groceries? How the fuck does he know what it is to be a worker?

[Kathandira]

How are supporting individual liberty, limited government, and the free markets... Marxist principles?

You socialists are adorable.

I'd be interested in knowing how limited the government should be in the eyes on anti-socialism people believe it should be.

Would it be simply down to the roots? Only govern laws and military? How many publicly funded programs can there be before it is considered a socialist government. Kinda considering making a polling thread, but i'm fairly certain it would be a trolling/arguing shit show.

[Machismo]

I'd be interested in knowing how limited the government should be in the eyes on anti-socialism people believe it should be.

Would it be simply down to the roots? Only govern laws and military? How many publicly funded programs can there be before it is considered a socialist government. Kinda considering making a polling thread, but i'm fairly certain it would be a trolling/arguing shit show.

Government should have one job, to restrict actions that harm others.

That's it.

[DKjaigen]

How are supporting individual liberty, limited government, and the free markets... Marxist principles?

You socialists are adorable.

How is being a social democrat supporting workers right a controlled economy and capitalism have anything to do with fascism? however, you have one thing in common with Marxists however: you quite willing to let millions of people die or left destitute for the sake of ideology.
You are not much better then Marxist when it comes to morals.

[Kathandira]

Government should have one job, to restrict actions that harm others.

That's it.

So with that, Privatize everything?