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[aarro]

The true king will return...

[Araxie]

The true king will return...

I mean... is he though? Maybe there will be some form of redemption Arc for him and Uther, but I feel as though it'll be more about Uther finding his true path in the afterlife.

[Archmage Alodi]

"what we did to him wasn't justice, it was vengeance"
Now that line makes sense.

[aarro]

I mean... is he though? Maybe there will be some form of redemption Arc for him and Uther, but I feel as though it'll be more about Uther finding his true path in the afterlife.

Even if I see Arthas for 5 minutes then I'm happy.

[Varodoc]

He will definitely have a redemption arc. There is too much build-up for it to go nowhere, and Blizzard is not braindead, they know Arthas brings in ton of cash. His redemption arc will revolve around him helping us defeat Jailer and Sylvanas and earn a better afterlife for himself. Since it was revealed in this cinematic that he wasn't actually destined to the Maw (or anyway what happened to him defied the natural order), but was thrown there by Uther.

[Nero Duskwind]

I mean... is he though? Maybe there will be some form of redemption Arc for him and Uther, but I feel as though it'll be more about Uther finding his true path in the afterlife.

Redemption for redemption's sake is a cheap arc. The only fitting fate for Arthas if he's involved in the story would be for him to remain damned and face eternal atonement as the new Jailer.

[ArthasFanboy]

If he wasnt destined to the maw who is?

[Eazy]

He will be bonus cameo in 9.3.

[DonChalk]

The true king will return...

Reeeally curious as to what they'll do with him. Yeah, he went to the maw but that was far from the normal path to get there and it was before the machine of death broke so I'm immensely curious as to what he's been doing, I'm thinking a turalyon approach of fighting for x amount of years against the mawsworn and he'll help guide us on how to defeat the jailer who he's been fighting for ages.

[Michael Jackson]

Why the fuck are people talking about a redemption ark? Redemption for what, he did nothing wrong.

The biggest disappointment about WOTLK is the bullshit bitch-ass move they wrote for Tyrion at the end with the Shitbringer, I was ready to pledge my allegiance to our lord and savior Jesus Arthas Christ.

Bunch of bitch ass writers at blizzard pussified out of any meaningful expansion ending.

[Sangris]

Redemption would be the worst, stupidest thing they could do with him.

So it will probably happen.

[7empest]

Yeah let's not popularize the redemption arc route, nobody is waiting for that. There are more interesting ways to navigate this story.

It does seem however that the problems in the Shadowlands started when Ner'Zhul was equipped with the Helm of Domination and Frostmourne making its way to Azeroth. Exacerbated by the fact that Arthas wasn't given proper judgment in SL post Icecrown defeat, instead Uther and Devos going rogue and tossing him in the Maw on their own merit.

I personally don't dislike this story direction! Our boy the King playing a central role is not necessary, let him simmer in the background, and involve him where it makes sense. Hoping for a big payoff as there is potential for this hit the spot just right. Unless we devolve into fanfic leveling writing as seen during BFA.

BUT NO REDEMPTION, it makes no sense for this cat, he isn't a Darth Vader with inner turmoil, Arthas was a dickbag the entire time post Human campaign in WC3.

[Demsi]

In case of emergency pull "beloved character" lever.

That being said, wasn't uther's soul claimed by frostmourne? as we saw in the Halls of Reflection, yet in the cinematic we see his soul reach bastion, right after getting the ol' one two, i'm confused lol

[MrLachyG]

In case of emergency pull "beloved character" lever.

That being said, wasn't uther's soul claimed by frostmourne? as we saw in the Halls of Reflection, yet in the cinematic we see his soul reach bastion, right after getting the ol' one two, i'm confused lol

turns out it got split in two. so the Uther we saw in HoR and in Legion was the Uther from the sword. then the other part of Uther is in Bastion.

[Ersula]

*shows arthas getting thrown into a vortex of oblivion*

Arthas fans:

The true king will return...

[Demsi]

turns out it got split in two. so the Uther we saw in HoR and in Legion was the Uther from the sword. then the other part of Uther is in Bastion.

Oh shit you're right, i wonder if that plays a part in the bastion story line, (please dont spoil anything if you've played the beta thanks)

[Monteverdi]

In case of emergency pull "beloved character" lever.

That being said, wasn't uther's soul claimed by frostmourne? as we saw in the Halls of Reflection, yet in the cinematic we see his soul reach bastion, right after getting the ol' one two, i'm confused lol

This looks to be the crux of Uther's story here. His wounded soul - literally fragmented - is what keeps him from shedding his mortal memories and ascending. Though he resides in Bastion, part of his soul is tied to the Maw.

[gcsmith]

If he wasnt destined to the maw who is?

I find it hard to believe Arthas belongs in the maw but not Kael'thas. They're very similar characters, and if Kael'thas is in revendreth, I imagine that's where arthas should be.

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turns out it got split in two. so the Uther we saw in HoR and in Legion was the Uther from the sword. then the other part of Uther is in Bastion.

I wonder what the Uther of the sword would think about joining the other Uther. I mean he seems to have some sort of limited sentience.

[tromage2]

Well he has no kingdom so basicly it is just Arthas now.

He destroyed his own kingdom.
And the scourge belongs to the Lich King (Ner'zhul)

[bagina]

"what we did to him wasn't justice, it was vengeance"
Now that line makes sense.

It's still dumb as fuck. If anyone deserved the Maw it was him. Uther's involvement wasn't even required. Justice would've been served by the Arbiter anyway. That's why this whole conflict is manufactured and forced as fuck. If WoW mentions "MUH VENGEANCE BAD" one more time I'm gonna lose my shit.