Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Benggaul]

I think ASU alone had something like 800 positives over the course of 3 or 4 days this last weekend-ish. Honestly I was really enjoying not being on your top spot list for a while, but here we are.

I'm the tech monkey at a middle school. We're 99.9% online right now, with some of the most at-risk kids being brought in and stationed in large, distanced areas (which is fine, there's like 20 in the whole gym) and the staff either working from home or mostly alone in their classrooms.

As the tech monkey, of course, I have to go everywhere and touch everything because our network equipment was barely upgraded for the 1:1 program, let alone handling video traffic all district-all day, and nobody has any idea what the hell they're doing. Hell, a considerable number of my calls are just "the network is so jammed I can't even log in." If, come October, we go back to class in full, I expect nothing but trouble before November.

If I get sick, in particular, basically the whole school is on watch. Oh and my elderly grandmother, diabetic aunt, and uncle on dialysis who I live with. I digress, but yeah shit's fucked.

Yeah, I was keeping an eye on it hoping you guys would catch a break over there given that you're still dealing with the aftermath. Sorry, man. Take care of yourself and your family.

[JohnBrown1917]

As a former member of the USAF:

Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’

Fuck you Donald.

Invading a foreign country for the profit of people you'll never meet, Trump might be right for once.
Broken clock and all

[josykay]

Invading a foreign country for the profit of people you'll never meet, Trump might be right for once.
Broken clock and all

Well... it is not about him. If HE was one of the people profiteering, he would send people to war Trump does nothing, if he believes it does not serve him.

[JohnBrown1917]

Well... it is not about him. If HE was one of the people profiteering, he would send people to war Trump does nothing, if hd believe it does not serve him.

Ofourse he would, and the people who would go along with it, the Trumpers, would also be suckers.

[Breccia]

So let's talk about Trump's Pennsylvania rally.

First of all, McEnemy herself tweeted this picture of what she says is the overflow crowd:



That's more than 25 people. And after Zoom and Enhance Cliche, I would be generous if I said 1 in 4 were wearing masks. I believe it's far lower than that.

This many people in a planned gathering is against Pennsylvania law. No, political rallies aren't an exception. No, saying "this is a peaceful protest" isn't an exception. Also, Trump is in power. A protest would be against himself.

Trump also took the opportunity to mock Biden for wearing a mask, so, it's not a coincidence.

Trump also said the thing again. Even if you go with "he said check on Election Day and if it's not in yet vote on the spot" it immediately brings up the counterargument "you do know the point of mailed votes is that you avoid the in-person voting out of safety, right?"

[Fahrenheit]

As a former member of the USAF:

Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’

Fuck you Donald.

Where is that sentient cum rag Ghostpanther to chime in on what Donald 'really' meant.

[Draco-Onis]

So let's talk about Trump's Pennsylvania rally.

First of all, McEnemy herself tweeted this picture of what she says is the overflow crowd:



That's more than 25 people. And after Zoom and Enhance Cliche, I would be generous if I said 1 in 4 were wearing masks. I believe it's far lower than that.

This many people in a planned gathering is against Pennsylvania law. No, political rallies aren't an exception. No, saying "this is a peaceful protest" isn't an exception. Also, Trump is in power. A protest would be against himself.

Trump also took the opportunity to mock Biden for wearing a mask, so, it's not a coincidence.

Trump also said the thing again. Even if you go with "he said check on Election Day and if it's not in yet vote on the spot" it immediately brings up the counterargument "you do know the point of mailed votes is that you avoid the in-person voting out of safety, right?"

He is really trying to kill his supporters and those idiots are willing to die for him you would think Herman Cain would have been a good enough example. Trump's super spreader events are going to skyrocket that death count.

[DingDongKing]

I loathe Trump, but I honestly don’t believe he said this—he’s always been a big supporter of the military and the troops.

As of right now, based on the article, it’s nothing but allegations. There’s no proof, so don’t get too upset.

He's supportive of the military under the assumption that he's their Commander-In-Chief. He sees them as HIS troops.

Apart from that, he's always been pretty disparaging of any military officials or ex-servicemen who go against him.

Mattis, Vindman, McCain come to mind straight away. I'm sure there's more.

[downnola]

I loathe Trump, but I honestly don’t believe he said this—he’s always been a big supporter of the military and the troops.

Considering his comments about McCain, I can easily see him saying that. His "support" of the military and flag worshiping antics are all an act.

The way he talked about that Gold Star family in 2016 was pretty disgusting as well.

[Gelannerai]

I loathe Trump, but I honestly don’t believe he said this—he’s always been a big supporter of the military and the troops.

As of right now, based on the article, it’s nothing but allegations. There’s no proof, so don’t get too upset.

Says who? Trump? So you’re choosing to take his word at face-value on this subject?

[Breccia]

I loathe Trump, but I honestly don’t believe he said this—he’s always been a big supporter of the military and the troops.

Okay, I gotta weigh in on this reply.

One, a while ago I suggested that, Trump has done so many deplorable things, that people could make shit up and it would be believable. I think this situation is evidence in my favor. So many places picked this up and ran with it, not because they independantly verified, but because it sounded plausible enough to trust the original source. Also, it was plausible enough that Trump refuted it. If, to make up a random example, OANN said "Biden died of cancer 10 years ago and that's his son wearing makeup" Biden wouldn't say a damn thing. If NYMag said "Trump has been privately communicating with Cuomo the whole time and their public feud is really a big sham" Trump wouldn't respond. Neither of those claims are even a little believable.

And it's 100% karma. Trump made shit up about Clintion. I know I keep saying things like "check your sources" and I do condemn slander and libel.

(coughs)

But.

If you got to where you are by being an objectively blatant liar, you cannot complain when it comes back to bite you in the morbidly obese ass. This is like a police officer saying "Whoa, you didn't tell me criminals might shoot back!" when Trump whines and pouts and stamps his feet like the spoiled toddler he is. And I hope every non-blatantly false lie made up about Trump that Trump has to respond to digs a little deeper into his sociopathic brain, which like Trump properties, probably has a vacancy.

As to the second part: Trump claims he's a big supporter of the troops. That's not the same as supporting the troops. Remember back when @Skroe was around and he pointed out (as did others I'm sure) that Trump held back not just a military pay raise, but military pay? Remember when he mobilized them on US soil? Remember when he stole their money to plant Pelosi's flower garden? Remember when he negotiated with terrorists? Trump is free to start showing he respects the troops by more than words any day now.

[Bodakane]

I loathe Trump, but I honestly don’t believe he said this—he’s always been a big supporter of the military and the troops.

As of right now, based on the article, it’s nothing but allegations. There’s no proof, so don’t get too upset.

1. About McCain: "He’s not a war hero. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”
2. He dodged the war.
3. Won't even go in the rain to honor fallen soldiers.
4. Compared "sacrifices" he's made in his life to that of the sacrifice of gold star families

Of course he said it.

Trump is Cersei from GoT, he only cares about military members inasmuch as they can protect him or do his biding....dead and wounded soldiers offer him no benefit.

[Breccia]

2. He dodged the war.

I gotta weigh in on this, too.

Dodging the Vietnam War does not make you against the troops. It remains one of the dumbest things the US has ever done and that list includes slavery.

The issue is, instead, how you act after dodging the war. For example, saying you know more than the generals because you went to a military school. Which went bankrupt, begged you for money, and you denied them.

It's not the what. It's the why. It's always the why.

[Felya]

This incident, however, doesn’t involve any rivals going against him, which is why I’m hesitant to believe the he said she said shit.

The rival was the weather and the media that gave him shit for skipping the cemetery visit, because of a little rain.

[Adam Jensen]

I loathe Trump, but I honestly don’t believe he said this—he’s always been a big supporter of the military and the troops.

As of right now, based on the article, it’s nothing but allegations. There’s no proof, so don’t get too upset.

Not even close to true.

For one thing, each of his comments had 4-5 separate, if anonymous, sources. Meaning multiple people heard him.

Secondly, he has a very rich history of being shitty with the military.

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/co...eb2x&context=3

The guy who made the comment cited literally all of that.

[Bodakane]

I gotta weigh in on this, too.

Dodging the Vietnam War does not make you against the troops. It remains one of the dumbest things the US has ever done and that list includes slavery.

The issue is, instead, how you act after dodging the war. For example, saying you know more than the generals because you went to a military school. Which went bankrupt, begged you for money, and you denied them.

It's not the what. It's the why. It's always the why.

I didn't;t say it means he's against the troops because he dodged the war. But knowing he dodged and knowing his view on things it is very likely he sees someone who didn't;t dodge it as a sucker.

[Felya]

If you and others in this thread want to believe these allegations, which haven’t been proven, that’s on you.

Can you prove that Trump supports the troops?

[Bodakane]

If you and others in this thread want to believe these allegations, which haven’t been proven, that’s on you.

Would I be shocked if he said it? No. An article claiming that “according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day”, to me, isn’t enough to believe it indeed happened.

I prefer facts and credible proof.

Credible proof is 5 witnesses. I guess its just a weird thing to give him the benefit of the doubt on.

[JohnBrown1917]

1. About McCain: "He’s not a war hero. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”
2. He dodged the war.
3. Won't even go in the rain to honor fallen soldiers.
4. Compared "sacrifices" he's made in his life to that of the sacrifice of gold star families

Of course he said it.

Trump is Cersei from GoT, he only cares about military members inasmuch as they can protect him or do his biding....dead and wounded soldiers offer him no benefit.

The first time the broken clock was right.

[Breccia]

I didn't;t say it means he's against the troops because he dodged the war. But knowing he dodged and knowing his view on things it is very likely he sees someone who didn't;t dodge it as a sucker.

In that we agree -- if he said it, of course. The fact that he's denying such isn't helping his case.