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I don't think Sylvanas is under the control of Yogg Saron's echoes. I think it's pretty clear from Edge of Night taken together with the Uther cinematic that she was simply tricked by the Jailer. He sent the Val'kyr to collect Sylvanas' soul and bring it to him, having learned perhaps that this was possible from Uther's intervention with Arthas, or perhaps this simply granted him the anima he needed to pull it off.
The reason that I don't think that the Old Gods are involved is simple. "The Light has made a pact with the enemy of all." All signs point to this enemy being the Jailer, and the Light's part of the bargain seems to me have been delivering Arthas' soul to him. The Void is unhappy about this deal, and sees the Jailer as an enemy, not a friend. Yogg Saron wouldn't make a deal with him.
Because it´s no different one way or the other; it would still refer to the forsaken even if they weren't mentioned.
Intention to use the blight maybe, but to ruin her own objectives with it? While now attacking hard to reach people who were extremely isolationistic to the point of just letting Lordaeron die to the plague and scourge? While formerly limiting herself to dealing with things that actually threatened her? It is quite a stretch to say that it is not a clear change.
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Fair points, personally i interpreted "the enemy of all" as the void though, given how death seems to me to be an indelible part of reality whereas void seems like a more absolute end, thus a more true enemy of all.
And i figured the pact would be shown through Turalyon and Alleria's odd coupling.
But going with your interpretation one would expect the old gods to meddle in "our favor" in the Shadowlands, and Yogg-Saron still has his saronite edifice pointing straight into the maw, so i would still expect him to make some appearance in your version too.
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Did people here forget that the first thing Sylvanas did after regaining her free-will was mind control bandits, gnolls, ogres, trolls, and other creatures that were neutral and minding their own business? All because she needed more meat to throw at Varimathras? And despite lamenting how she had been mind-controlled herself?
Sylvanas has always been hypocritical and aggressive. What she did after her second death is nothing new.
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You're doubling back left and right on this quote thing.
It's not a change at all. I would be surprised if Sylvanas didn't use the blight on Gilneas regardless of if she was ordered to or not. WC3 Sylvanas did fucked up shit while she had freewill and she has kept doing all that shit throughout her entire time on WoW.
how many quotes and links are enough to be sure that Sylvanas was genocidal bitch since the beginning?
WC3 tft.
Vanilla -.new plague. above linked quest and lots of other testings on everybody. even on her own forsaken (arthas. rise of the.lich king book)
her sending aphotwcaries around the world for researchs on plague
she sent forsaken agent to Razormanes to help them and get alliance with them. while same razormanes were allied to scourge and were enemies of her new allies, orcs and tauren
quests in Tirisfal. Silverpine. Hillsbrad. methods that she used for fighting. even reviving person allied to KT for her reasons.
there was a quest in duskwood. forsakens send horde players to stonard. where orcs captired a human civilain. this guy saw something that he shouldnot have seen and was poisoned by forsaken. they lied to player that potion would help make this person talke. but killed him so he couldnot tell truth to orc captors
and lots of other stuff
everything in vanilla pointed that she was up to no good. hell you can even play classics now to check it or go to wow.gameperdia. etc
in wotlk she tested plagues on lots of others
alliance forces
local vrykul
so on
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That´s fair, on the other hand that may be exactly as intended.
I nonetheless see your point of course.
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I suppose it might seem that way to you as it just strikes me as entirely irrelevant, given that, again, it seems to change exactly nothing.
...That is exactly what she did, she used it regardless of whether she was ordered or not., or rather ordered not to. Point and difference with pre-WotLK Sylvanas limiting herself to brutality towards threats that were, well, threats in addition to not letting her brutality get in the way of her own objectives.
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That would be very in-character for a recently deceased ranger-general of Silvermoon.