Are you ready for the next gen GPUs?

[Hoofey]

When was the last time AMD had something to compete with Nvidia at the top end? 290x?

Halo products are good for grabbing eye balls, but awful for making money.

Something like that yeah, its been a while.
If Big Navi is able to get close to a 3080 in terms of performance, I'd consider that a success.

Another question is if they're able to match the RTX tech stuff, like DLSS and I\O, which is bound to play a big part in upcoming games.
Say what you want about Nvidia and their business practices, but they do have some cool tech solutions and they are really good at making game companies adapt to them. Which again puts more pressure on AMD. NVENC alone is enough for many people to completely ignore AMD, so will be interesting to see what the whole RTX package will do.

[pansertjald]

If these leaks are true, then the new 3000 series is not as impressive as the first rumors made it to be and people with RTX 2080 ti cards don't really have to upgrade. But we will se for real on monday. But videocardz is normally trustworthy on the things they post.

The RTX 3080 is about 24% faster then the RTX 2080 ti

Videocardz Nvidia Geforce RTX 3080 synthetic and gaming performance leaked

[Thunderball]

When was the last time AMD had something to compete with Nvidia at the top end? 290x?

Halo products are good for grabbing eye balls, but awful for making money.

1080Ti was pretty good at making money

[Varolyn]

If these leaks are true, then the new 3000 series is not as impressive as the first rumors made it to be and people with RTX 2080 ti cards don't really have to upgrade. But we will se for real on monday. But videocardz is normally trustworthy on the things they post.

The RTX 3080 is about 24% faster then the RTX 2080 ti

Videocardz Nvidia Geforce RTX 3080 synthetic and gaming performance leaked

Idk if it even would be necessary to replace a 2080ti. It's still very powerful and will likely still be very good for some time.

[Demsi]

Are any of these "bottleneck check" websites legit or? i'm very curious how much my current cpu would bottleneck a 3070.

https://www.gpucheck.com/en-usd/comp...tra/ultra/-vs-

[Hoofey]

If these leaks are true, then the new 3000 series is not as impressive as the first rumors made it to be and people with RTX 2080 ti cards don't really have to upgrade. But we will se for real on monday. But videocardz is normally trustworthy on the things they post.

The RTX 3080 is about 24% faster then the RTX 2080 ti

Videocardz Nvidia Geforce RTX 3080 synthetic and gaming performance leaked

Think you need another take on that.
Videocardz said that the 2080ti is 24% slower than the 3080, not that the 3080 is 24% faster than the 2080ti. Theres a big difference. 3080 is around 30% faster.

2070S being 45% slower doesnt mean that the 3080 is 45% faster than the 2070S, it means its almost twice as fast, which is good news for 1080ti owners as those cards are very comparable.

[Thunderball]

Are any of these "bottleneck check" websites legit or? i'm very curious how much my current cpu would bottleneck a 3070.

https://www.gpucheck.com/en-usd/comp...tra/ultra/-vs-

They're not. The only way to know is to look for tests (that are done properly) with the exact same build as yours in exact same usecase as yours.

[pansertjald]

Think you need another take on that.
Videocardz said that the 2080ti is 24% slower than the 3080, not that the 3080 is 24% faster than the 2080ti. Theres a big difference. 3080 is around 30% faster.

2070S being 45% slower doesnt mean that the 3080 is 45% faster than the 2070S, it means its almost twice as fast, which is good news for 1080ti owners as those cards are very comparable.

What the hell are you smoking boy?
If something is 24% slower, then the other thing is 24% faster. You can't change that.

If i run 24% slower then you, that means you run 24% faster then me

So yes the RTX 3080 is 24% faster then the RTX 2080 ti in those test

[Hoofey]

What the hell are you smoking boy?
If something is 24% slower, then the other thing is 24% faster. You can't change that.

If i run 24% slower then you, that means you run 24% faster then me

So yes the RTX 3080 is 24% faster then the RTX 2080 ti in those test

Look at the numbers.

Lets use 1440p Firestrike Extreme results for the 2060S as an example.
21260 point for the 3080.
10708 points for the 2060S.

The 2060S is 50% slower than then 3080.
3080 is 100% faster than the 2060S.


Now lets use the Port Royal 1440p results for 2080ti vs 3080.
11412 points for the 3080.
8590 points for the 2080ti.

8590 points is 25% less(slower) than 11412.
11412 is 33.3% more(faster) than 8590.

So yes, there is a difference. The reference point matters. Heres some youtuber showing you his math.

[Corroc]

Are any of these "bottleneck check" websites legit or? i'm very curious how much my current cpu would bottleneck a 3070.

https://www.gpucheck.com/en-usd/comp...tra/ultra/-vs-

Remember, just because your CPU is bottlenecking the GPU it doesn't mean that you are not getting high fps when compared to GPU that isn't being bottlenecked.

[msdos]

Couldnt be more wrong.

I was referring to the marble demo I saw. So basically you're saying what I saw was fictional and didn't really happen? There wasn't actually artifacts and stuff I was seeing? What did I see then? A magical make belief demo?

You post gate-keepers should realize that it's easy to get info online, it's not like I'm pulling it out of my butthole, you aren't the only ones who know things or saw some things.

[SaneyBoo]

If I'm going for the quietest non-watercooled 3080 card, should i then be looking for the founders edition cards? - They are throwing a lot of fancy words around for their new fan design.

I don't know how hard the founders edition are to get my hands on compared to the 3rd party cards.

Or is the 3rd party cards usually more quiet?

I bought a 2080 msi ventus when it came and it's like a jet engine under load compared to the rest of my pc.

[Hoofey]

If I'm going for the quietest non-watercooled 3080 card, should i then be looking for the founders edition cards? - They are throwing a lot of fancy words around for their new fan design.

I don't know how hard the founders edition are to get my hands on compared to the 3rd party cards.

Or is the 3rd party cards usually more quiet?

I bought a 2080 msi ventus when it came and it's like a jet engine under load compared to the rest of my pc.

Ventus is low tier stuff, one of the cheapest coolers out there alongside stuff like their Armor line. So the Ventus being loud is no surprise.

This video is the only info I know of when it comes to cooler designs and performance. Seems like the Founder cards will have top of the line cooling performance at MSRP-ish prices, while good 3rd party cards will be more expensive. Will be hard to find any founder cards though.

[SaneyBoo]

Ventus is low tier stuff, one of the cheapest coolers out there alongside stuff like their Armor line. So the Ventus being loud is no surprise.

This video is the only info I know of when it comes to cooler designs and performance. Seems like the Founder cards will have top of the line cooling performance at MSRP-ish prices, while 3rd party cards will be more expensive. Will be hard to find any founder cards though.

Thanks for the link, will have a look.

[Aurosh]

What the hell are you smoking boy?
If something is 24% slower, then the other thing is 24% faster. You can't change that.

If i run 24% slower then you, that means you run 24% faster then me

So yes the RTX 3080 is 24% faster then the RTX 2080 ti in those test

No that is not math.

E.g. if A is 100% better than B, then B is 50% worse than A.

So in your example, if 2080 Ti is 24% slower than 3080, then the 3080 is 31.6% faster than 2080 Ti.

[Demsi]

Remember, just because your CPU is bottlenecking the GPU it doesn't mean that you are not getting high fps when compared to GPU that isn't being bottlenecked.

I'm aware of that, wich is why i was wondering if the website that i linked was legit, because a 10% loss in frames isn't a huge deal and that means i wouldn't have to upgrade

[Puzzony]

The site where those leaks originally came from (TecLab) has been caught before for putting out fake tests for clicks. I'd still wait for the actual tests on the 16th than forming any opinion on a clickbait scam site.

[Temp name]

If these leaks are true, then the new 3000 series is not as impressive as the first rumors made it to be and people with RTX 2080 ti cards don't really have to upgrade. But we will se for real on monday. But videocardz is normally trustworthy on the things they post.

The RTX 3080 is about 24% faster then the RTX 2080 ti

Videocardz Nvidia Geforce RTX 3080 synthetic and gaming performance leaked

"Don't have to upgrade"
"24% more performance"


I mean, if people buy a 2080ti they probably care about having the best, and a more than 20% performance bump isn't really worth sneezing at.
And that's "only" the 3080. The 3090 has, what, 20% more CUDA cores at basically the same frequency?

[Thunderball]

I was referring to the marble demo I saw. So basically you're saying what I saw was fictional and didn't really happen? There wasn't actually artifacts and stuff I was seeing? What did I see then? A magical make belief demo?

You post gate-keepers should realize that it's easy to get info online, it's not like I'm pulling it out of my butthole, you aren't the only ones who know things or saw some things.

I'm saying that what you saw is not representative of the state that product is in now.

[pansertjald]

"Don't have to upgrade"
"24% more performance"


I mean, if people buy a 2080ti they probably care about having the best, and a more than 20% performance bump isn't really worth sneezing at.
And that's "only" the 3080. The 3090 has, what, 20% more CUDA cores at basically the same frequency?

If you have a RTX 2080 ti, there is really no reason to buy a RTX 3080, if the numbers are real, wich we don't know yet ofcuase. But if they are, then better wait for at ti or super version of the RTX 3080 or go for the 3090.

If you have a 2060/2070 or 2080 then there is a good reason to upgrade to the 3080 or 3070. But for 2080 ti users i don't really see the reason to upgrade to a 3080 IF the nembers are true. Then better wait for the card between the 3080/3090 or go for the 3090.