Another "I can't breath" death: Police Reform & Protests in the USA

[Thelxi]

You're not pointing out any irony.

The irony is crystal clear: no mention of this video while at the same time debating whether holding up a gun in a specific manner was threatening enough to warrant death in the Rittenhouse video.

I don't blame you for not seeing the irony, but I do blame you for apparently not even being aware of this video two days after it happened. Get over your allergy to journalism and start informing yourself, the world is on fire.

you're using concern trolling

This marks the first time someone accuses me of being a concern troll, a concept I'm all too familiar with at this point. I won't lie and say that I'm angry at the notion of joining the ranks of people like Communismwillwin. Theordazana better watch his back because I am coming for that gig lol.

[Themius]

This thread has become little better than a pep rally for cop-killers.

Someone shot cops part of a department with history of past and current gangs murdering black and brown people to earn ink

Why in the ever loving fuck should I give two shits? Do you care when someone from ISIS dies you know after they've been installed the police the neighbourhood to make sure everyone is following the rules? If not... well... goodbye.

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Ahh I see the problem now....you lack reading comprehension.

I never said the action was appropriate. Never even implied it.

I'm also not going to do your work for you.

I would challenge you on what is appropriate...

Just what the fuck do people do?

The FBI knows about these hates groups the government knows about them, yet we have no actions by the federal government to address these problems All this as they go around killing people over and over and over. And the whistle blower says the 18 year old was shot multiple times in the back, lying down. so the deputy could earn his ink. What the fuck is the "appropriate" response in the face of a government that doesn't care about this because "first amendment rights, cops can be part of hate groups"?

Appropriate in my mind comes down to the most logical ending given the current situation.

[Noxx79]

This thread has become little better than a pep rally for cop-killers.

Bullshit. Nothing else to say really.

Unless you want to defend extrajudicial executions. Like a good fascist.

Show one post that is evidence for your cliams

Otherwise go back to your hole.

[Hilhen7]

It's strange how people make up 100 excuses for the cops. Like "But he didn't obey orders", or "He had a past criminal record".

But when a cop is the target suddenly they start singing a different tune...

[Shadowferal]

Cop killers are referred as "taking arms against the state," is like saying holding a loaded gun isn't a threat.

[Thelxi]

Ahh I see the problem now....you lack reading comprehension.

I can reassure you with full confidence that you have not yet posed a challenge to my reading comprehension, lol.

I never said the action was appropriate. Never even implied it.

Roll the tapes!

Once again, the police started this war against black americans. They aren't taking responsibility for it, they aren't apologizing for it and most aren't making any real change. So when things like this happen, they are an effect to a cause they are responsible for. The police have willingly through their own actions, made themselves the bad guys. That's on them and that;s their fault. If they want more sympathy and more outrage when they are viciously attacked, then they should fix the things that make them the villains.

For good measure:

If we’re not going to support the people taking up arms against the state, then what value does the 2nd Amendment hold, exactly?

Lastly,

I'm also not going to do your work for you.

don't worry about it. I was just making a rhetorical point that would take anyone less than a minute to verify if they wanted to. Not that you could disprove it even if you wanted to lol.

[Noxx79]

Cop killers are referred as "taking arms against the state," is like saying holding a loaded gun isn't a threat.

Are you ok? You’re stringing sentences together that make no sense, and you’re arguing things that nobody argued. Do you need someone to talk to? There’s many resources that can help.

[downnola]

The irony is crystal clear: no mention of this video while at the same time debating whether holding up a gun in a specific manner was threatening enough to warrant death in the Rittenhouse video.

I don't blame you for not seeing the irony, but I do blame you for apparently not even being aware of this video two days after it happened. Get over your allergy to journalism and start informing yourself, the world is on fire.



This marks the first time someone accuses me of being a concern troll, a concept I'm all too familiar with at this point. I won't lie and say that I'm angry at the notion of joining the ranks of people like Communismwillwin. Theordazana better watch his back because I am coming for that gig lol.

All I've taken away from this response is that you don't know what the word irony means, and you make a lot of unwarranted assumptions. I don't even know how to address your second point, other than you like to name drop. Yawn.

[Hilhen7]

Cop killers are referred as "taking arms against the state," is like saying holding a loaded gun isn't a threat.

Not defending "cop killers", but why should we even give special names? A murder is a murderer even if they are a cop or criminal. If a cop shoot a unarmed black person are they called an African American killer?

Also why do cops go around threatening so many unarmed civilians?

[Zython]

Well case in point right here. Total struggle and failure to discuss this, let alone separate it from the movement and condemn it. Unfortunate.

Why should I condemn shit? None of you ever bothered to condemn far right murders, including synagogue and mosque shootings. Why should I jump through hoops for the amusement of people who don't care about human life and want to see me dead?

Of course more unfortunate is your disturbing description of a kid walking up to a police car and shooting two random officers in cold blood as "taking up arms against the state", but lets just say that was sarcastic.

So what does it look like, exactly?

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Cop killers are referred as "taking arms against the state," is like saying holding a loaded gun isn't a threat.

What is your argument, exactly? That cops don't work for the state?

[Thelxi]

All I've taken away from this response is that you don't know what the word irony means

Not exceeding, but meeting expectations.

[Thelxi]

Why should I condemn shit? None of you ever bothered to condemn far right murders, including synagogue and mosque shootings. Why should I jump through hoops for the amusement of people who don't care about human life and want to see me dead?

Still making wild assumptions, but at least making clear your insane fucking views.

Again, this is some sinister shit people.

[downnola]

Not exceeding, but meeting expectations.

Comparing a discussion around a kid shooting protesters and claiming self-defense, to a guy shooting two police in their car who hasn't been caught (or knowing his motive) is pretty stupid, bubs. If the guy claimed self-defense and we didn't bother talking about it in this thread you'd have a point, but he hasn't and you don't.

[Zython]

Still making wild assumptions, but at least making clear your insane fucking views.

Again, this is some sinister shit people.

Oh, yeah, totally insane.

Again, it's clear you don't give a shit about what happens to me, so why should I care about your moral sensibilities? The end result's going to be the same.

[I Push Buttons]

Proof? I don’t see anyone supporting cop killers. Just a lot of people who understand that more cops are killed by covid than anything else, and more people are killed by cops than cops are killed by people. These murders by the police are another level above the cops being murdered though. Why? Because the cops are denying the suspects their due process. Also known as violating their constitutional rights in addition to murder.

Show one post that is evidence for your cliams

Otherwise go back to your hole.

I mean just take a gander at the post right above yours. You have Themius going on about how being a cop is equivalent to being in fucking ISIS.

He's not only defending the attempted murderer's actions as being understandable, he's literally arguing the attempted murderer's actions were appropriate given a lack of police accountability.

[Thelxi]

Comparing a discussion around a kid shooting protesters and claiming self-defense, to a guy shooting two police in their car who hasn't been caught (or knowing his motive) is pretty stupid, bubs. If the guy claimed self-defense and we didn't bother talking about it in this thread you'd have a point, but he hasn't and you don't.

Hinging your interest in a BLM-related murder caught on video on whether the killer has claimed self-defense or not, is a weak argument. Really it's no argument at all; it's just rationalizing your ignorance. But sure, lets pretend it didn't happen until he is identified, caught and his lawyer holds a press conference where he reveals his defense strategy.

Asserting that the two racially charged and highly politicized murders/videos are unrelated to each other is interesting considering Trump took serious political damage from the Rittenhouse one, was the first with the audacity to suggest he acted out of self-defense, and is now lavishly cashing in on ignorance like your own regarding the second video/murder.

Some might even point out the irony of you using Trump's own self-defense propaganda to make this argument, but lets not go there lol.

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Oh, yeah, totally insane.

Again, it's clear you don't give a shit about what happens to me, so why should I care about your moral sensibilities? The end result's going to be the same.

I'm too scared to descend into the darkness of your link, but I will commend you for toning down your rhetoric. Much more civilized than this:

Why should I condemn shit? None of you ever bothered to condemn far right murders, including synagogue and mosque shootings. Why should I jump through hoops for the amusement of people who don't care about human life and want to see me dead?

[Zython]

I mean just take a gander at the post right above yours. You have Themius going on about how being a cop is equivalent to being in fucking ISIS.

He's not only defending the attempted murderer's actions as being understandable, he's literally arguing the attempted murderer's actions were appropriate given a lack of police accountability.

So what's the difference, exactly?

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I'm too scared to descend into the darkness of your link, but I will commend you for toning down your rhetoric. Much more civilized than this:

"Jewish organizations are dark and evil" is...not the claim you want to make when people are pointing out your refusal to call out anti-semitic violence.

[downnola]

Hinging your interest in a BLM-related murder caught on video on whether the killer has claimed self-defense or not, is a weak argument. Really it's no argument at all; it's just rationalizing your ignorance. But sure, lets pretend it didn't happen until he is identified, caught and his lawyer holds a press conference where he reveals his defense strategy.

We're not discussing my interest in the video, we're discussing your mind-numbingly lazy comparison of that shooting (and the "irony" of our supposed lack of concern) to the Rittenhouse shooting. The irony isn't there because your original post was pants on head dumb.

Asserting that the two racially charged and highly politicized murders/videos are unrelated to each other is interesting considering Trump took serious political damage from the Rittenhouse one, was the first with the audacity to suggest he acted out of self-defense, and is now lavishly cashing in on ignorance like your own regarding the second video/murder.

You have no idea what that guy's motive was. One could assume it's related to police brutality and the recent protests/riots, but you have no way of knowing. To suggest otherwise is just dishonesty. The police are still alive by the way, so you can relax with calling them murders. You're not even keeping up with the story you're scolding everyone else with not knowing and talking about.

[Thelxi]

"Jewish organizations are dark and evil" is...not the claim you want to make when people are pointing out your refusal to call out anti-semitic violence.

So besides wishing death on you, I now also hate Jews? damn I sound busy.

[Zython]

So besides wishing death on you, I now also hate Jews? damn I sound busy.

The latter is the reason for the former.