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Life in prison is probably way worse than the death penalty anyway. They're separated from society and get to spend the rest of their days being reminded they're human garbage. Works for me.
Also if you execute someone and years later find out they were innocent... oops!
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2020-09-24, 06:46 AM #81Herald of the Titans
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2020-09-24, 08:48 AM #82Dreadlord
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your criteria is utopian and not in any form based on reality. thats the point of my last post. even in the case you mentioned, i managed to question the validity of the verdict. and i even left out the whole "mental disability" part.
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you are arguing a point that has no real world application, because it never is as black and white as you want it to be.
chang the word "murder" to "rape" and answer the question for yourself. Originally Posted by Themius
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2020-09-24, 11:42 AM #83Banned
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Have fun spending god knows how much on a system you'll use maybe once every 50 years. Originally Posted by lordsphinx
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2020-09-24, 11:48 AM #84The Undying
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Did you forget what YOUR argument was? Originally Posted by lagiacrux
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2020-09-24, 11:53 AM #85Dreadlord
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my argument was (maybe not as well articulated as i thought): Originally Posted by Themius
people who are pro death penalty and "maximum punishment", should think about the fact that a convicted murderer wanted the death penalty because life in prison was far worse for him. so "death penalty" and "maximum punishment" might not always be the same.
it was an argument against the death penalty, tbh.
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2020-09-24, 09:57 PM #86Herald of the Titans
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The Death Penalty and Life Sentence are both a waste of time and significant resources. For the former because under current modern legal system it takes a siginficant amount to convict and carry out the sentence and for the latter because sending someone for decades in a prison where the state likely ends up paying their bill ( not that pay to stay systems are in any way better ).
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2020-09-25, 04:39 PM #87The Undying
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Enuff said. Originally Posted by breadisfunny
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2020-09-25, 05:01 PM #88Void Lord
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Ok so I will ask this again Originally Posted by Themius
Why should anyone ever give a flying shit, how much this asshole suffered or was discomforted before he left this planet?
On a list of things I am most concerned with, this guy is way at the bottom.
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2020-09-26, 12:55 AM #89The Unstoppable Force
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Sure he's evil but it's just because people are fallible and he experienced a lot of trauma in his childhood. Obviously we could execute those people but it would be so much more satisfying if we could psychologically fix them and show them the error of their ways. Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus
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2020-09-26, 02:10 AM #90Void Lord
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Yeah I’m not disagreeing. The problem is however the argument. Originally Posted by PC2
I’m speaking purely to his crime and the level is rises to.
My point being emotional or not I can say it’s reasonable to be fine we executing him either the methods we do.
His comfort is going to be a non factor.Milli Vanilli, Bigger than Elvis
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2020-09-26, 05:57 AM #91The Unstoppable Force
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Ah okay, I agree worrying about this method seems irrelevant. Also the death penalty only gets applied like 30 times a year so this entire topic is pretty non-consequential. Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus
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2020-09-26, 06:39 AM #92Herald of the Titans
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I’m all for capital punishment, for various crimes (most notably: intentional murder and child rape/molestation), and I don’t care much if they suffer for it...but it has to be undeniable proof that they did it, which I understand is tricky sometimes; hence undeniable.
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2020-09-26, 01:54 PM #93The Undying
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Criminally insane is a thing. We used to have places for them. Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus
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Dexter was a sick serial killer. Originally Posted by Anastacy
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2020-09-26, 02:10 PM #94Void Lord
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What does that mean in relation to the example I gave, there is a fine line between insane and someone who simply has deliberate ill will towards everyone. He killed innocent fucking children CHILDREN! Originally Posted by Themius
Not fellow mobsters, not a gangbangers, or a home invader, there was no misunderstandings, and he freely admitted to what he did and enjoyed it.
Please IN context make an argument to ANYBODY who thinks yeah this guy should not only be executed, but the methods we have are TOO LIGHT![/QUOTE]Milli Vanilli, Bigger than Elvis
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2020-09-26, 05:14 PM #95The Undying
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[/QUOTE] Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus
OP has defended child sexual predators before. Something to think about. After all most consider that sort of crime an automatic death sentence.
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2020-09-26, 05:25 PM #96The Undying
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What you are. Is a lying person who has little to do besides lie and celebrate terrorists. Originally Posted by Shadowferal
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2020-09-26, 08:11 PM #97Herald of the Titans
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Never watched the show, but I know the premise. Originally Posted by Themius
What relevancy does the show have to the topic?"Auto-correct is my worst enema."
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2020-09-26, 08:29 PM #98Old God
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yup all you have to do is look at things like the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMartin_preschool_trial to see what a mess emotions and manipulations do to accusations. Originally Posted by Anastacy
Still to this day people feel these folks should have and should be put to death.
if we really want to have a death penalty in this country then the people responsible for condemning someone to death should also be responsible if it turns out they were not actually guilty.Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!
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[/QUOTE] Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus
So what? He's not a danger to them anymore in jail, killing him will achieve absolutely nothing except satisfying revenge boners which shouldn't be the priority of any modern State, leave that to socially backwards shitholes like Saudi Arabia or China.It is all that is left unsaid upon which tragedies are built -Kreia
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2020-09-26, 09:52 PM #100The Undying
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You don’t see the analog of using the justice system for revenge because people want other people dead for their own self gratification??? Originally Posted by Anastacy
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